yeah it is weird, also strange that there's comparatively little press or promo for this. No talkshows iirc, total opposite of Lost Highway media blitz. Don't know why.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link
Lynch was on Leno when Mulholland Drive came out in 2001
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link
I seem to remember MD was pretty big at the time. It got a swag of awards and nominations. My memory is that it came at a time when Lynch's reputation had tapered off somewhat, and this put him right back on the pedestal.
― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link
The media consensus was that Lynch had lost his way. I think the expectation after Lost Highway was that he would go on making critically divisive, minor cult films. People had also largely heard that MD was a rejected TV pilot with some new footage tacked on. This was one of those unexpected comebacks that has a hell of an impact.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link
this is widely now considered one of the best films since 2000, and Lynch's second best film after Blue Velvet. no?
Try best.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:14 (six years ago) link
And it won the NYFCC's best film award, along with iirc the Village Voice critics poll.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:15 (six years ago) link
eric OTM
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link
yes
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link
"So little enthusiasm" -- wha??
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link
Naomi Watts even got faint Oscar buzz
so little enthusiasm in this thread, i think they meant
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:29 (six years ago) link
yes, I meant this thread
― akm, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link
Mulholland Drive came out when ILX was down and all the discus was on the Sandbox iirc
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 05:24 (six years ago) link
yah we were goin nutz for it i saw it like 5 times in the theater
― Shart Dressed Man (kurt schwitterz), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 07:42 (six years ago) link
there's a couple of copies of ilx.thehold.net and sandbox.thehold.net on archive.org but I can't find that discussion I think
― StanM, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 08:58 (six years ago) link
i saw this in the theater when it came out, it was amazing, and i was on ILX at the time, but didnt really bother posting here. don't take the lack of posts for a lack of enthusiasm me and my friends drove around the parking lot afterwards screaming with joy.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
i saw it when it came out and immediately stabbed my eyes out so i would never see another movie ever again
― na (NA), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link
....naido?
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link
NA eyed 0
Holy shit lynch is a genius
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
lol
― na (NA), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
it was right there, staring us all in the face for all these years
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
this explains the lack of posts. you can't see what you are writing when you have no eyes
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
When I first saw his movie, I immediately started it over and watched it again.
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
I watched it on two screens simultaneously
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
seeing this in a theater that looks just like Silencio earlier this year was one of the best moviegoing experiences i've ever had
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link
Yeah I have vivid memories of seeing an advance free screening of this on my college campus. Was stunned by how great it was. When the cowboy gave his "You will see me one more time if you do good; you will see me two more times if you do bad" bite I remember laughing at how clever it was. The rest of the movie the audience gasped whenever he appeared on screen. This is Lynch's most entertaining movie by a mile.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
I don't know how to objectively measure "most acclaimed," but here MD is 64th, Blue Velvet 77th.
http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_all1000films.htm
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link
i always thought The Elephant Man was his mainstream claim to fame but on that list it's at 464. i need to rewatch it, i remember seeing it when i lived in this house with SCAD video artists and really liking it.
Mulholland Drive was just an endless series of crazy events. it felt like someone had observed a random movie or television scene while going through an out of body experience. perhaps how an alien would replicate the human drama, only it was purposefully sending up the formalisms that tend to be taken for granted. it was thrilling to watch.
holy shit! what was with that crazy bluescreen swing scene? we lol'd almost immediately at that and the super grinny old folks with Naomi Watts as she arrives at this weird artificial California. when they are in the limo it's so comically grotesque. we almost fell out of the chairs when Billy Ray Cyrus showed up. that casting! wtf? this was years before Miley, years before his ironic cultural resurgence, years past being a Weird Al joke. David Lynch wrote him the perfect character. same with the cowboy, who apparently wasn't an actor, and who couldn't remember his lines. they had to write them on notecards and tape them to Jon Favreau's face for him to do the scene and he did it perfectly. when he shows up, i was like, what the literal fuck? that was this movie endlessly. Club Silencio -- it is all a tape! the hand signals and the trumpets!
much like the new Twin Peaks it was a lot of scenes that may not necessarily narratively connect but for sure are connected through symbols and the artistic language of emotions through more abstract forms such as lighting, colors, themes, motifs, dialog repetition, etc. i am glad to see he has gotten the opportunity to work with Naomi again! it is extra poignant when you consider Mulholland Drive was conceived at one point as a Twin Peaks spinoff.
lol when the cowboy shows up. WTF. ROTFLITMT
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0stnhrOj6p8
this is really cool
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:39 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HytOc0KxFGU
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:40 (six years ago) link
Location trailhttp://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/mulholland-drive-david-lynch-locations
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link
wow, had no idea that Diane's apartment was in the Snow White cottages. that Elliott Smith connection is nuts, yeah he spent a lot of time there in the last years of his life, sadly living very similarly to Diane, productive but completely cracked out and losing it...
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link
pretty certain that steph1n merr1tt also lived there for a time, based on a memory from the documentary from a few years back.
― omar little, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
that Elliott Smith connection is nuts
Positively. Didn't know what I saw when I read that!
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link
Iirc he lived there during some of the writing for Figure 8 and maybe Basement but it wasn’t very long...
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link
though now a 1br goes for ~$2700
you can rent a cheaper 1br on the western/nicer side of west hollywood
― infinity (∞), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link
He wrote a song about it, "In the Snow White Cottages," which references Mulholland Drive, Elliott Smith and The Raveonettes.
― geoffreyess, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link
covered love theme from this score, from my favourite film
https://we.tl/1Nc19Gj3Ls
― kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link
you made this, Ross?
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link
here's mp3
https://we.tl/oH8IxWLaQV
yeah i did
― kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link
It's really good mate.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link
thanks :)
buddy helped with beats, but yeah played all synth parts/outro
― kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link
i like it a lot!
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link
thanks jed, appreciate that
― kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
love the dark minute at the end.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:50 (six years ago) link
cool, total homage to my love of lynch
― kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:57 (six years ago) link
This is really neat Ross! Love the dark ending but also the beats.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 January 2018 12:22 (six years ago) link
my favourite movie of all time...?
― stoker (Ross), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
hey pic.twitter.com/FuNmivCwPd— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) October 16, 2018
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 07:12 (five years ago) link
For those as clueless as I was, MULHOLLAND DR's twinning and identity blurring shares a lot of DNA with Bergman's PERSONA, Rivette's CÉLINE ET JULIE VONT EN BATEAU and Altman's 3 WOMEN - all are great and provide a nice counterpoint.Which is of course to ignore the gender politics of these four men writing and making movies about women having unstable and ill defined identities which can be pushed around.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 07:36 (five years ago) link
I think Hour of the Wolf was maybe the 4th Bergman film I watched and I still like it, totally worth seeing as long as you like the idea of Bergman doing gothic horror.
― JoeStork, Sunday, 25 April 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
Yeah, I remember enjoying it, but that it was kind of atypical, Bergman-lite maybe, like almost a self-parody or close to what detractors thought he was doing.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link
Max von Sydow didn't turn into a werewolf, so it sucked
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link
Count Floyd: "Oh well, it wasn't scary but they got depressed at the end, didn't they, kids? You think it's not scary to be depressed? Did you see them? They, they couldn't... function in this world... with the faces... all those faces..."
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 26 April 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
Watched this again last night and the crescendo of the old couple slipping under the door and terrorizing Diane until she finds the gun to end her screams ... it's just unbelievable what this guy does with overlapping images and sounds and effects. Nothing else like it in film excepting maybe the end of The Return.
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 26 April 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link
Yep. Besides all his weirdness and originality, he's also just a virtuoso of image and sound.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link
Lol at Count Floyd coming over from the Midnight Cowboy thread. #onethread
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link
What's amazing is how the old couple are smiling in exactly the same way at the beginning and end of the film. They might even be more terrifying in that hired car after meeting Betty/Diane.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link
Yeah, that whole thing is WTF.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link
Like where are they going and why are they behaving that way?
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link
Having not watched this in the intervening decades since it came out all I could remember was the prurient interest and the general vibe, so was pleasantly surprised how much good stuff there was from beginning to end to appreciate. I don’t have much to add on that front. Trying to think of their is any use in comparing with a film on a somewhat similar theme, The Limey, but the two movies are so different, maybe don’t want to go there.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link
Also trying to remember the substance of a National Lampoon Bergman parody I read once, The Høwl of the Muppets.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link
xxp the smiles and laughter of the old couple are echoed by Adam Kesher and Camilla Rhodes later in the filmhttps://www.mulholland-drive.net/pics/cast/oldcouple1.jpghttps://www.mulholland-drive.net/pics/cast/adam_camilla.jpg(images from mulholland-drive.net where of course someone noticed it way before I did https://www.mulholland-drive.net/theories/18.htm )
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link
That’s an interesting pairing of images, but it’s hard to take a site seriously that conflates the two different “realities”:
First, we've seen how the hitman operates. It is hardly a stretch to imagine him taking out Adam in the process of killing Camilla. In fact, I think it's a bit of a stretch to imagine him killing ONLY Camilla. This guy murdered a vacuum sweeper for crying out loud.
― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link
(FWIW, I only vaguely know what to make of the old couple, but it does seem awfully reductive to declare they “represent Adam and Camilla”)
― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:18 (two years ago) link
I don't think the hitman is in the dream reality, he doesn't interact with any of those characters. Some "reality" elements are intercut with Diane's Betty dream (e.g. Dan in the diner). Oddly Adam is the only character who seems to have continuity/identity through both worlds, although several faces repeat.And no, I don't think that the old couple "represent Adam and Camilla" any more than the diner waitress Betty/Diane "represents" Diane/Betty. The whole film is about twinning, representation, offset realities, dream logic.
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link
Oh, that’s interesting, I definitely don’t agree with that first part of what you wrote… but cool to hear the idea! I guess there’s a lot of ways to read even just the basic “presentation” of the movie.
― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link
tbh I'm not even sure I agree with myself!
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:34 (two years ago) link
I mentioned this movie to a friend, and he wrote: “Napkin… NAPKIN!!!!!”So I guess there are more memorable quotes than I initially thought.
― Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf (CBTL) stan (morrisp), Thursday, 13 May 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link
So glad I watched this again.
― Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 May 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link
I’m watching Barry Lyndon—there’s a nice analogue of the dinner party scene near the beginning of the movie (it doesn’t play out the same way, of course…).
― like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Saturday, 5 June 2021 06:13 (two years ago) link