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maybe because it's the most earnest & sentimental song they ever recorded, & it's a tour de force for all the players involved. that final drum solo at the end is always so so thrilling

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

Wayne Shorter's solo is nothing to sneeze at either. I love that one ascending part where it feels like he's reaching for the cosmos.

Moodles, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

I've been on a bit of a Steely Dan kick the last couple of days, and Aja has been hitting the spot like never before. The first four albums are all long been huge favourites of mine, but I think I'd rank Aja ahead of The Royal Scam now. I still don't really rate Gaucho, even though it's very well produced and engineered (as you'd expect) - I've a little warmed to 'Babylon Sisters' (even though I find it a lesser version of 'Home at Last'), 'Hey Nineteen', the title track and 'Third World Man', but find the rest of the tracks lacking.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link

Pretzel Logic is the only stepchild in the SD discography for me

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

Really? Why d'you say that? Because it's their most concise/poppiest record?

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

Wayne Shorter's solo is nothing to sneeze at either. I love that one ascending part where it feels like he's reaching for the cosmos.

― Moodles, Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it's just astonishing

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

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I would have to go look at the tracklist but it's the only one that has real lulls for me. Obv it has some immortal stuff on it.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

'Any Major Dude...' is one of my all-time favourite Steely Dan tracks.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

Oh definitely. Maybe top 5 for me.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

i don't think there's a dud on Gaucho, the ones you didn't mention (Glamour Profession, My Rival, Time Out Of Mind) are all pretty close to the equal of the four you like!)

btw re: the title track, never knew about the Keith Jarrett lawsuit (I'm sure it's been covered here), but damn I guess he had a good case...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QNK4Pc8W2A

nomar, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I don't really like either 'My Rival' and 'Time Out Of Mind' ... 'Glamour Profession' sounds great for its first minute but then I find myself tuning out... it's probably the weariest sounding "disco" tune I've ever heard, but weary sounding disco was probably what they were going for.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link

yeah it definitely was, I can see how you could see that song as conceptually or intellectually interesting but not enjoyable musically. it's probably my favorite SD song, but only if i can have the demo where Fagen sings the chorus & it sounds like a C90 bounce.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

That's prrrrobably my favorite SD lyric

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

Glamour Profession is the essence of Gaucho for me and one of the greatest things they ever did

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

I like the way Fagen sings "Barbados" as "Barbadeuce" ...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link

I totally agree with the above re: Glamour Profession. Perfect portrait of a specific type of hanger-on cretin that you'll no doubt meet in the drug world & in LA. I love the second verse so much, the last line is amazing in the context of the song: "I drove the Chrysler / watched from the darkness while they danced."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

I still have a dream of making a cool house track out of Glamour Profession samples, but I haven't been able to make it work so far

Moodles, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

brut and charisma poured from the shadow where he stood

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link

Jack with his radar
Stalking the dread moray eel

nomar, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link

Scam has one foot in LA / "elsewhere" but the album art is so overt with the Chrysler building reference that to me it's an NY album

calstars, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link

They hated that cover, though, and it was originally created for an unreleased Van Morrison album.

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

I don't mind it, but it's still one of my least favourite Steely Dan sleeves... Can't Buy a Thrill is probably their worst.

The sleeve to Katy Lied is my favourite.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

even so, it captures the atmosphere of the record perfectly... all i see is steam & grit & smog & slime... definitely a new york record

flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

this is neat, haven't heard it in a while, don't remember the audio quality being this good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EkDDzpPrk

flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link

wow...very nice! sounds like Gadd on drums?
and that staccato part ~~~~~~~
whole thing almost like a sister to aja.

calstars, Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:35 (six years ago) link

mp3
https://ufile.io/lt3n4

calstars, Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link

Am I the only fan of this band that doesn't care for Deacon Blues at all?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:33 (six years ago) link

nope, same here.

new noise, Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:36 (six years ago) link

come on the lyrics alone make it classic

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:41 (six years ago) link

Love it, but I actually don't care that much for Josie.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 14 September 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I love the lyrics to 'Deacon Blues' ... the first two lines are such a fuckin' funny way to open a song.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:53 (six years ago) link

I used to think that I Got The News was the only dud here, but I've learned to love the herky-jerk rhythm and Victor Feldman's piano

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

yup the piano makes that track

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link

'I Got The News' rules.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

aw man, when Michael McDonald comes in on that one, so good

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

Glamour Profession, My Rival and Time Out Of Mind are my favorite Gaucho songs. „Show me my rival, I'll match him whim for whim now“ is the quintessential Steely Dan battlecry

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link

Yeah those three are heart of gaucho for me as well

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

weird, i would rate the other four tracks ahead of those

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

I don't dislike any of the songs on Gaucho, but side 1 is perfect.

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

I mean, same goes for Aja though

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

I used to think that I Got The News was the only dud here, but I've learned to love the herky-jerk rhythm and Victor Feldman's piano

An amazing drummer friend in college used to tool on the drums to this. They were not performed by one of the Porcaro/Gadd/Purdie masters but Ed Greene (Ed Greene (2) according to Discogs) but more importantly, he thought the fact that the guy did the same fill or two throughout more or less the whole song was kind of weak.

I'm not particularly bothered by it today but I do think I see his point. The part is not in the same league as songs on the rest of the album.

Also worth noting that I believe Roger Nichols didn't have the same involvement in the engineering of this record as compared to the others, which helps explain Aja didn't *sound* quite as lush as the records before and after it (tho it is certainly every bit as smooth if not more so).

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 15 September 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

Side one of Aja takes a great steaming shit all over side one of Gaucho.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 15 September 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

Counterpoint: no it doesn't

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 15 September 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

the real answer might be that whatever Steely Dan album out of the first 7 is your favorite, you're right (mine changes all the time.)

nomar, Friday, 15 September 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

I agree with nomar.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 15 September 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

xp to naive teen idol

that's really interesting. i wasn't talking about the drum performance in particular (which I agree is not the best) but the rhythm of the song in general as defined by the bassline. keeps the whole thing off-balance and makes the lyrics seem even weirder than they already are

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 September 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

man "Stand by the Seawall" is niiiice

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 15 September 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

Glamour Profession, My Rival and Time Out Of Mind are my favorite Gaucho songs. „Show me my rival, I'll match him whim for whim now“ is the quintessential Steely Dan battlecry

― gospodin simmel, Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:45 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah those three are heart of gaucho for me as well

― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, September 14, 2017

dude "Third World Man"

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 September 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

Gaucho the song is the defining moment of their career for me. The perfect climax right near the very end of their first run.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Saturday, 16 September 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link

Yes

calstars, Saturday, 16 September 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link


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