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eh i've heard this same stuff for years and years. i believe it.

Shart Dressed Man (kurt schwitterz), Monday, 11 September 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

I've heard it too, but it never went any further than "it's been said for years and years" which is kind of the problem. Hafler as well: it's all "trust me, I know" instead of actually saying what he knows or saw or whatever.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 11 September 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

he said he knew Sleazy would go to Thailand to have sex with young children.

Shart Dressed Man (kurt schwitterz), Monday, 11 September 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

how is that not "actually saying what he knows" ?

Shart Dressed Man (kurt schwitterz), Monday, 11 September 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

I think there's a noncommittal vagueness to repeatedly implying something and saying "I have been vocal about _this_" while alluding to Saville, etc. and posting 4chan screenshots, and not explicitly saying what you mean

there's an implication but not an accusation, and it all reads very much like gossip

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

actually "saying what he knows" would be "I know he went to Thailand and later moved there to have sex with..." and then an actual accusation

I mean if you just put Saville on there he could mean virtually anything

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

https://www.strandedrecords.com/products/coil-another-brown-world-baby-food-lp

Just picked this up, it’s fantastic

willem, Saturday, 23 September 2017 10:04 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

http://thequietus.com/articles/24398-dais-coil-reissues : Worship The Glitch & A Thousand Lights In A Darkened Room

StanM, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

wow, I wonder how they pulled that off?

bums me out so much that their catalog seems to be in legal limbo.

sleeve, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The Ape Of Naples, the final studio album, is available.

― StanM (StanM), Friday, December 2, 2005 12:14 PM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and it's the best thing they ever did! amazing.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:29 AM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it is amazing but it'll be a wee while before i could say it is the greatest thing they ever did.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:14 PM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's been a wee while, and StanM was right, it is (still) the best thing they ever did

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 13 May 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

I think that's actually me saying it's the best thing they ever did (which feels like a bit of an overstatement now, although it is definitely up there).

toby, Sunday, 13 May 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

Ah, you're right, it was you! Sorry, misread that.

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 13 May 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

I'm still gonna have to go with MTPITD but Ape may have higher high points, granted

sleeve, Sunday, 13 May 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link

vol 1 or 2?

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 13 May 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

Both :)

If I had to choose, the one with "Broccoli"

sleeve, Sunday, 13 May 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

MTPITD 1 FTW

For overall life impact / most revisited, forever Horse rotorvator.

stirmonster, Monday, 14 May 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

I might go with MTPID2 just for Batwings.

toby, Monday, 14 May 2018 11:59 (five years ago) link

Moving Batwings from vol. 2 to vol. 1 makes vol. 1 a perfect album and vol. 2 pretty inessential imo

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 25 May 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

the two Dais Records albums are out btw

StanM, Friday, 25 May 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Moving Batwings from vol. 2 to vol. 1 makes vol. 1 a perfect album and vol. 2 pretty inessential imo

OK listening to vol 1 + batwings today and I am inclined to agree.

I was prompted to listen to some Coil today by going back to a bunch of Vladimir Ivokovic mixes. This one in particular might be of interest to people on this thread:

https://www.mixesdb.com/w/2018-03-01_-_Vladimir_Ivkovic_-_Phonica_Mix_Series_46

toby, Saturday, 22 September 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

The Xen track on here is incredible, but can't find any further info about it on Discogs, not even the Les Disques De La Mort label page. Know anything about it?

Anyway, great mix, thanks!

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 22 September 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

Drew McDowall doesn't seem to have his own thread on here but I chatted with the good man recently about some of his new favorites.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2018/09/24/big-ups-drew-mcdowall/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

The Xen track on here is incredible, but can't find any further info about it on Discogs, not even the Les Disques De La Mort label page. Know anything about it?

No, I did try poking around a bit, but couldn't find anything apart from it being in a few other mixes. Guessing it's still forthcoming? I agree it's awesome.

If you liked this mix then definitely check out others by Ivkovic, there are a load of great ones.

toby, Friday, 5 October 2018 06:31 (five years ago) link

Being able to buy Coil CDs in HMV in a non descript Northern town (Warrington) is an odd thing but I picked up a copy of Worship the Glitch in there last Sunday. It feels right. I want them to seep into other people's lives and their waking lives the way they have mine. Feels right to be able to walk to my flat just minutes walk from the Mersey river, past the weird sports bar where the owner first played me early Tangerine Dream to listen to it. Feels like the sort of thing that'd make Geff and Sleazy happy.

Lemon Kitten (Dan.S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link

aw, thanks for that post. I miss them.

sleeve, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

happy solstice:

http://live-coil-archive.com/

sleeve, Saturday, 29 December 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

A hell of a thing. Will be deep diving a bit more into that soon.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 December 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

Ah this is great. Thanks !

So, This Leaked (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 30 December 2018 03:36 (five years ago) link

Just in time for winter! Perfect.

A cursory look reveals no actual audio, though, just information, reviews and photos - or am I missing it?

Either way, this is great. Thank you!

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 30 December 2018 11:52 (five years ago) link

the download links are at the bottom of every gig page

StanM, Sunday, 30 December 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link

You know which release is among their most perfect material and slightly lacking exposure for new fans ? The Remote Viewer. The one with five tracks. It may have displaced The Ape, Horse and MtpitD1 as my definite favorite.

Nabozo, Sunday, 30 December 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link

Also, random anecdote: one night once, I thought I saw a ghost by my open window as I was listening very attentively to A White Rainbow. Whatever optical illusion was at work made me talk to it, to see if I'd get any answer.

Nabozo, Sunday, 30 December 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

check out this one too, I always think it fits well with The Remote Viewer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_Milk_(In_Four_Phases)_Bonus_Disc

StanM, Sunday, 30 December 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

You know which release is among their most perfect material and slightly lacking exposure for new fans ? The Remote Viewer. The one with five tracks. It may have displaced The Ape, Horse and MtpitD1 as my definite favorite.

― Nabozo, Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:05 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Black Antlers fits the bill here too, I think

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 30 December 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

BTW, don't ignore the 'LCA Studio Coil Projects' section of the archive -- four collections of unreleased demos, with (according to them) no duplication with the bonus tracks from the reissues three years back.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

thanks for pointing that out!

StanM, Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link

yep, that's the real meat here (at least, so far)

sleeve, Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

wowwww @ the full length version of 'Boy In A Suitcase' - still digging into these studio sessions, some incredible stuff here

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 01:49 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Spastiche (5:42)
Heaven’s 98 Horror mst (11:52)
Siminon Master Backwards (Swanyard demo) (6:28)
Jhon’s House Tune from GM Guide – Protection (5:36)
Spastiche (basic) (6:46)
AYOR Master (It’s in my Blood) (6:40)
Original Amber Rain (demo) (4:51)
Wur CLK Wir 1993 (2:05)
Crumb Tune (master) (6:00)
The March of Time (extra version) (8:56)
Spastiche – The Night’s alive (master) (5:34)
Kusnir Jazz (2:39)
Heavens Blade (John Balance vox demo) (7:25)
Wur CLK Wir 1998 mst vox (18:35)
The Test early mst (2:17)
AYOR (extra version) (4:29)
Elves (master) (6:35)
Heaven’s Blade (Inst) 1993 (8:24)
Melotron Song (amber rain demo) (2:51)
March of more Time (master) 1993 (6:27)
Crumb Tune (4:20)
Simon (extra long) (6:10)
Egyptian Basses 1993 (7:18)

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:56 (five years ago) link

Wow. I hope this isn't too limited, as I can't afford this at the moment!

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:05 (five years ago) link

looks like a regular release:

https://stormingthebase.bandcamp.com/merch/coil-swanyard-2cd-digipak

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link

That will do.

Meantime, Thighpaulsandra is apparently continuing the Live series:

https://www.thighpaulsandra.co.uk/store/p193/COIL_LIVE_FIVE_%28Pre-order%29.html

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

Anyway I do think it's interesting how Hyde and McDowall are essentially reclaiming the mid 90's legacy in different ways. (The latter strictly via specific reissues, granted.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link

Also, Hyde allegedly has *another* archival release coming, an expanded version of The Gay Man's Guide To Safer Sex tracks:

https://www.discogs.com/Coil-The-Gay-Mans-Guide-To-Safer-Sex-2/release/13504410

Per a note appended:

Hello everyone, just to reassure you, this is an official release, licensed from Danny Hyde, released with his blessing, with HQ files + a CD version for those who like it like that. We can't wait for this to come out, when we get a release date we'll let you know. Thanks ! Ed @ Musique Pour La Danse

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link

Said label's site:

https://shop.mentalgroove.ch/

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link

I'm not sure whether a new Coil release being "licensed from Danny Hyde" necessarily makes it official at this point. Who knows where the rights lie.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Sunday, 21 April 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link

Thought it was discussed upthread but no, at this point nothing is official that gets newly released or reissued. It’s all essentially a bootleg one way or another because there’s no central estate.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link


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