Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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reminds me of a conversation I had with my mom not long ago

"I didn't even let you kids watch South Park!"
"Mom, South Park didn't come out until I was in my last year of high school. You didn't let us watch The Simpsons for the first few years it was on"
"Did I let you watch South Park?"
"It was on Comedy Central and you didn't have cable television until I moved out, so I guess not"

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

oh, all of it, tho I don't really buy in to moral panics about any particular cultural form's negative impact on the youths

Cheds Baker (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 September 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

I think there are other social and parenting processes that shd prepare your children to recognize a bigoted sociopath when they see one

Cheds Baker (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 September 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

I don't think there are strong reasons to stop kids from watching a lot of things, but this whole "ehh just let kids watch whatever and don't put it in context" thing has to be something

but yeah, 30 year olds don't get Cartman is bad either, so they're not going to impart great things to their children

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link

NV otm, it's not what they watch, it's who they watch it with

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

I think one reason it might not be straightforward for everyone to grok that cartman is bad is because he almost never suffers any consequences on the show. On top of being hateful and entitled, he's also a murderer, a cheat, a liar and a thief and he's been getting away with all of it for decades.

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

he's steve bannon

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link

That has actually blown my mind.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link

I was being partly ironic Tom, I don't think Parker & Stone see him as the "bad guy" so much as a handy conduit for jokes they'd otherwise struggle to get away with

Cheds Baker (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 September 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

they can't do real humor about politics, just dumb jokes and shlock

never forget the mind-numbing mediocrity of "that's my bush"

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

that show was hilarious, mostly because there was like no political humor whatsoever

frogbs, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

all last season he was performatively woke, not sure if it was ironic or not, whether it had a point or not

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

that's my bush ruled but because it was more about parodying sitcoms than politics

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

hey we've found the two viewers

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

I dunno if I'd blame the behavior of the characters so much as the general attitude of maintaining ironic distance from everything because actually caring about things means you're intellectually compromised

ciderpress, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

^^^

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

yeah, the ongoing "all things are bad or worthy of mocking, maybe some a little more than other, but take nothing seriously" strays from the "we're equal opportunity mockers of things" after a certain point

like, great, you can mock anything and everything, good for you

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

it is up to the creators to decide what goes into a work. it will be interesting to see what they do w the new game. they need to make some points in favor of progressivism.

last game featured lots of actual Nazi speeches sampled for the bad guys. at one point you are hearing this stuff for hours while in rpg random battles. millions of kids hearing this stuff is not a good idea. kind of amazed they got away with that tbh. if that game came out post-Trump it would be a different story.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

ironic distance leads to ironic racism leads to actual racism (which ironic racism is anyway)

nomar, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

even if they claim to mock everything equally, that sort of apathetic libertarian 'ideology' is always going to align more closely with the right than the left because the left pushes for more change and change requires caring and caring is uncool

ciderpress, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

I was typing out more words about it, but yes, ironic racism is completely indistinguishable from racism as a third party, even if you're "joking" with your friend and using slurs against them and they're a member of that group. If you do that all the time, you'll end up meeting someone new and immediately associating all the bullshit you think is fun to scream at your friends with them.

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

the massive success of cards against humanity is another bit of proof that many people are perfectly comfortable being openly racist as long as they can't be held accountable

ciderpress, Monday, 11 September 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

a chlling glimpse into a dystopian future where online gaming isn't dominated by adolescents shrieking hate speech at one another

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKATUb9UMAAi3z-.jpg:large

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

(also 'heterogamingvet' ffs)

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

lolllllllllll

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 18 September 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

Guys he just wants to help animals jeez

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 18 September 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

Guys, I think I'm at the objective!

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 September 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

not on my watch

Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 September 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

i wonder how this dude even became a gamernerd when any single episode of Voltron or the Power Rangers would have presumably led to him throwing something through the TV screen

Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 September 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

what's up with the product placement for coke in that cartoon? will mountain dew be outlawed by the sjw junta?

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link

love that these dudes are shitting themselves over the most innocuous feel-good comics

mh, Monday, 18 September 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

may they forever have online gaming sessions where their teams are two angry-sounding men in their 30s spitting into their headsets and a half dozen tweens who are screaming

mh, Monday, 18 September 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link

BG u don't follow @CokeEsports??

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 September 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

Lol at the terrible tags on these blog posts

http://www.coca-colacompany.com/tags/coke-esports

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 September 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

oh, for the days when mountain dew sponsorship was a distant dream and gaming events were sponsored by bawls and jolt

mh, Monday, 18 September 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

and by sponsored I mean they'd send a free case

mh, Monday, 18 September 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

BG u don't follow @CokeEsports??

a shameful oversight which i assure u i have now rectified

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

Good job, man!

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 September 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

luv2interact with #brands online about #gaming

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link

two angry-sounding men in their 30s spitting into their headsets and a half dozen tweens who are screaming

Ideas for ILX

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 September 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link

sorry but I can't get past "I think I'm at the objective"

ciderpress, Monday, 18 September 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link

"is that my man hannity!?"

Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 September 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

This is what they want to turn gaming into ... people enjoying themselves.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 18 September 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

this has to be a parody account... surely

#MakeGamingStraightAgain https://t.co/piI7rULTFs

— HeteroGamingVet (@HeteroVet) September 18, 2017

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

didn't notice the twitter handle of the guy he's responding to there, urgh

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

veterogaminghet

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 18 September 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKLrgt_WkAABV7f.jpg

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

this fkn guy

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

he is remarkably stupid

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link

Next week's tweet is gonna be

"@JamesADamore
I am now in the kkk"

Rob Lowe fresco bar (m bison), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link


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