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I'm used to that. I was raised on worse, like general midi TGs and Yamahas

El Tomboto, Sunday, 10 September 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link

sick. are the boutique touch pads better than wheels

am0n, Sunday, 10 September 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

I tend to assume anything with fewer moving parts is an improvement, but knobs are def better than touch. Wheels vs touch is probably a wash. I'll take the cheaper littler version in a heartbeat.

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 September 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link

startrekman to thread

am0n, Monday, 11 September 2017 01:13 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggsB5eZ0oM

am0n, Monday, 11 September 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link

That's good stuff. 19-year-old me would want to set Eric Persing on fire.

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 September 2017 02:21 (six years ago) link

Like the cardinal opposite of Atsushi Hoshiai, the dude who played the cymbals on the 909

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 September 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link

This new Roland looks pretty nice: https://www.roland.com/global/products/v-combo_vr-730/

Maybe a much lower-cost alternative to a Nord Stage?

DJI, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhKD7fFHgnY

DJI, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4gSlYfMsmo

am0n, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

That sounds pretty awesome.

DJI, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

None of those sounds in the demo are super inspiring to me but I love the interface and idea. Their effects processor looks really cool.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

yeah I'm kinda just meh on that but this thing

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2017/10/04/bastl-instruments-thyme-effects-processor-now-available-to-pre-order/

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link

Has anyone fucked with the Yamaha CS-80 reissue? Part of the ‘reface’ series iirc. I like to fantasize that I’ll be able to buy one <$500 synth and that one’s my desideratum rn

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

it's on my list, there are hella youtubes of people doing the most boring possible shit with it

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

That’s a shame bc I will do NEW BLADE RUNNAR w it

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

CS-80? You mean like the CS01? The reface CS is pretty basic. Some dude's making an expensive rack CS-80 clone but it's not a yamaha reface.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

The Arturia CS-80 clone soft-synth is pretty good, though obvs i have not played an actual CS-80 to compare.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

So I got my LYRA-8 today. Absolutely worth waiting 13 months for it.

sounds like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQGkPufZHs

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 5 October 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

yeah I'm kinda just meh on that but this thing
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2017/10/04/bastl-instruments-thyme-effects-processor-now-available-to-pre-order/
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, October 4, 2017 1:48 PM

think i like the morphagene better in that regard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvRTkJ7Qx2o

am0n, Friday, 6 October 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

gawd bless tom erbe

am0n, Friday, 6 October 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link

It's like Carl Stone in a box.

dan selzer, Friday, 6 October 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

am0n, I'm always surprised at your preferences, but sincerely, I do not know what I do not know; we'll see; we'eell;;;;l see;sesss; sseeee;weeelselllsseeelllssll;e

the LYRA-8 sounds like lameness distilled, never buy noise, the whole point of noise is to find it, noise is personal, I definitely want to yell at the guy who made that youtube

El Tomboto, Saturday, 7 October 2017 05:08 (six years ago) link

i prob need to hear a better demo of thyme but bastl def wins in the interface design

am0n, Saturday, 7 October 2017 05:20 (six years ago) link

bastl livestream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O52o2wyqY0

am0n, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link

It's alive!

DJI, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

Got my Nord Stage 3 Compact this week! So stoked. It sounds so nice...

DJI, Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

I really want that Make Noise 0-coast, wish it was cheaper.

Also I downloaded Dexed and realized I have NO idea how to deal with FM synthesis. Also realized it's responsible for a lot of the sounds I like and haven't been able to achieve, and I want to learn, but it seems very mysterious right now (even modifying presets!).

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

Does anyone understand fm? Change values and algorithms until it feels good.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

I find it very hard because there's much less of a 1:1 relationship between parameters and the resultant sound compared to analogue synthesis.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

I understand FM a little bit because I think of it like having a few 4+ with separate ASDRs and usually that helps - but yeah, tons of twiddling

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 October 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link

4+ oscs, I meant

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 October 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link

the messiness of that sentence is probably a good example of how I think about FM. no grammar, but a syntax I can guess at and sometimes get right

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 October 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link

this is probably a good place to start?

http://www.burnkit2600.com/manuals/fm_theory_and_applications.pdf

dan selzer, Friday, 20 October 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link

The thing that most freaked me out about Dexed was not seeing any ADSR, but apparently they're just unmarked (kvraudio forum to the rescue):

am i too stupid? i cannot find the ADSR knobs? :/

They are not there as such.. they are called 1234 each with its own level and time(rate:1=slow 99=fast) to reach set level :scared:
Just call 1 attack, 2 decay, 3 sustain, and 4 release.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 20 October 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

i spent last night plugging these into the fm manually. i don't know that i recommend it or even understand any more about fm than previously but i can now get around the edit menu faster

http://s3.amazonaws.com/factmag-images/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/brian-eno-dx7-patches.jpg

am0n, Monday, 23 October 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link

Oh cool, I will give that a shot. What synth are you using?

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 October 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

volca

am0n, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

For some reason I always thought that Volca FM was 3-op, but I looked it up again and it's actually 6-op but 3-voice. Is it possible to poly-chain two of them together?

naus, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link

I'm still torn on the D05 as i suspect it'll be a real pain to programme. Given that the VST is already available, it seems a shame not to have done what they managed with the boutique JX3P and include a bunch of the PG1000 controls on the front panel.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 11:07 (six years ago) link

naus you could chain multiple if you use this - https://www.retrokits.com/shop/rk002/

am0n, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link

oh that site is just full of "your terrible ideas" fodder

https://www.retrokits.com/rk-004/

Ports can be defined as sync-only You can change the MIDI connector into sending out sync signals. With the use of a MIDI to Mini-jack converter (as provided with e.g. the Arturia Beatstep) in reverse to the RK-002, this enables you to use the MIDI-connectors as sync output. This way you can also use the RK-004 to drive a bunch of (example given) Pocket Operators.

Tempo manipulation Every port can be set to run relative to the midi or sync master clock (or discard the master clock alltogether). This way you can creatively use sequencer machines to run in different tempo’s with each other.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

I mean that in a good way obviously, but I could easily see myself breaking out scratch paper and designing an unworkable $12,000 one-man-noise-wall around just that contraption

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

the tempo thing is pretty cool

am0n, Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

D.T.M.C.A. (discard the master clock altogether) would make a decent band name

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

Has anyone tried the Digitakt? The fact that Elektron haven't gotten around to releasing the DAW linking software about eight months after the hardware unit is a bit of a concern but it looks pretty cool as a drum machine / sampler.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 November 2017 09:08 (six years ago) link

i recently got one and i like it, still getting used to it, but it seems fairly straightforward and fun to use. has a better feel to it than some similar machine's i've had in the past and it sounds great. i don't care about the DAW linking software, though, so i didn't know it still wasn't available.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 2 November 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

similar machines like? mpc? i've been mulling over digitakt/octatrack recently as the only thing i have close to it is the rudimentary sp404. kinda want volca sample also

am0n, Thursday, 2 November 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

tbh part of the reason I have been looking at the Digitakt is that the Volca Sample is kind of a pain to use.

I might wait and see if there any upgrades to the sampling functions in Ableton 10, though.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 November 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

i used the mc-909 for quite a while and i'm enjoying the digitakt more, the workflow is just more intuitive and feels more flexible. i've also used an sp404, a volca sample, an electribe 2... and on my first impressions i find the digitakt more immediately appealing than all of those.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 2 November 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link


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