Where was I just reading about the Minutemen guitar approach? That D Boon would just turn the treble all the way up on his amp, and turn the bass all the way down, then crank it?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 8, 2017 10:03 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And he was using a Tele, so OUCH
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link
"Can't See You Anymore" is the best "Yeah!!! Just gotta have sex!" so funny
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
I also can't believe I'm listening to this and waiting for my vinyl of Neil Young Hitchhiker to arrive
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
haha otm
― sleeve, Friday, 8 September 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
They considered guitar and bass to be separate, sovereign states with no over lap so...yeah
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 8 September 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
Wish I woulda bought that Statues Record Store Day a couple years ago, those songs are great
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
I think all four of the tracks from that double 7" are on this new box, fwiw
― sleeve, Friday, 8 September 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link
oh yeah i meant i'm hearing them and they are great! wish i woulda sprung for it back then just to have the 7 inch
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
i had it in my hand then put it down to buy something else
it's funny how some of this stuff puts lie to the narrative that they started out as wild ass hardcore kids that couldn't play and eventually developed songwriting chop
like "Writer's Cramp" in particular is a well crafted and well played little power pop/punk number that's far from hardcore
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
totally otm, they began as a post-punk band
― sleeve, Friday, 8 September 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
People are talking about the thin, razor-in-the-red, sheet metal roar of Mould's guitar & the lack of bass & low-end as if they're mutually exclusive. Listen to the Zen Arcade rehearsals I posted upthread, it's not an either/or, you can have both! and it sounds glorious
― flappy bird, Friday, 8 September 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
Industrial Grocery Store is a great pop number
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 September 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
FWIW I still don't have a confirmation email from Numero yet, but I just checked my site account and the item field is finally filled in with what I ordered - and my download is available (half a GB!) - so that's a relief. Shame it took them three-plus days to fix it. And if it were me, I would have more regularly piped up with a 'sorry things got messed up, we're working on it' message.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 9 September 2017 09:06 (six years ago) link
Reports coming in that Grant Hart has passed away.
― heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 14 September 2017 07:03 (six years ago) link
so sad. bob might've been a more consistent songwriter, but grant's songs were my favourites. saw him play solo a decade or so ago, and he was just incandescent. that second nova mob album was sorely overlooked, too.
― Cyndi Larper (stevie), Thursday, 14 September 2017 07:47 (six years ago) link
Fuck fuck fuck fuck
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 08:16 (six years ago) link
In actual tears. So long grant :(
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 08:17 (six years ago) link
Whoa, unexpected.
Thread title needs modification..
― Mark G, Thursday, 14 September 2017 08:18 (six years ago) link
Just when I was wondering if a reunion could be a possibility..
― Mark G, Thursday, 14 September 2017 08:20 (six years ago) link
RIP - 56 is way too young
― StanM, Thursday, 14 September 2017 08:29 (six years ago) link
Thanks, Grant, for always having a kind word and a smile for teenage me whenever we bumped into each other. Also for being one of the first gay guys I ever met, which was an important role to play in the lives of Minneapolis teen punks and wavers trying to escape the suburban mindset. Thanks for playing for us (and with us). RIP; you were a lovely man.
― kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 14 September 2017 08:37 (six years ago) link
Aw man, RIP Grant.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link
this is seriously making me so sad. 56?!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
I'm a mess tbh
Did you ever hug him, LL? I definitely remember us discussing the idea of you hugging him at a show.
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link
I did!! The pics are bad but I did give him an earnest hug, the most sincere kind of hug you can give a person.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
what the fucking fuck
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link
thanks for that post, suzy
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link
xpost oh i'm glad to hear that. That feels consoling to know.
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
this was the first of 4 or 5 shows i saw; they did "Ticket to Ride"
http://www.thirdav.com/hd_discog/05_live_audio.html#08May1985
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 September 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
Good God, that setlist is incredible
― flappy bird, Friday, 15 September 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link
No! Awful. RIP Grant.
― bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 15 September 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link
other thread for reference, not because of your post cuz this is indeed awful and is hitting me in several different ways:
RIP Grant Hart
― sleeve, Friday, 15 September 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
this is a lovely thing on numero's insta https://instagram.com/p/BZL8M3qhwEH/
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 18 September 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
Savage Young Du really rewrites the commonly accepted narrative of Husker Du (wild speedfreak hardcore kids who gradually grew out of it and embraced melody and craftsmanship)
some the earliest stuff on this set (pre-Land Speed Record) is actually (though less sophisticated songwriting-wise) is as melodic and mid-tempo as later stuff on Candy Apple Grey or Warehouse
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 October 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
that makes sense, from what I remember of Mould's book and the chapter in Azerrad's book, Hart and Mould bonded over 60s pop as well as all their punk records & started playing hardcore because it was what was going on at the time.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
i mean they were covering Donovan and the Byrds pretty early on
I think part of the reason that narrative developed was because the 1st single ("Statues"), which is in that earlier style, was basically out of print/unavailable until the Everything Falls Apart reissue in the 90s.
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
I am seriously anticipating being able to crank this stuff up in glorious non-MP3 fidelity
btw Extra Circus is now available digitally on Bandcamp, as noted on some other thread.
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
I can't remember if I mentioned this earlier but I'm really disappointed by the remix/remaster of "In a Free Land." Pumped the bass up and all the magic of those swirly silver stun guitars is gone. But "Everything Falls Apart" sounds better so I guess it's even. Also I got that Record Store Day reissue of "In a Free Land" and it sounds tight so w/e, psyched for the Zen Arcade box
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
good lord that reissue is pricy
have you been able to compare it to the Ryko EFA reissue versions?
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
Rhino!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:01 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also, in general Minneapolis punk is fundamentally misunderstood because no one that's not from here really gets that the Suicide Commandos are the most important Minneapolis band ever and that without Chris Osgood is really the central figure to the Minneapolis punk scene, and the Commandos were def one of those bands that existed in that pre-punk nexus between emerging punk, Nuggets, the Who, power pop, DEVO, etc, and everyone in any Mpls band of note would have looked up to them. But overall, I think Minneapolis punk was much less adversarial to classic rock and "year zero" mentality than punk in other cities.
Also like I dunno, classic rock is just in the water here, and KQRS was so dominant for years
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
sorry, thanks!
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
KQ RULES
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
the Suicide Commandos rule! so glad I got turned on to that album in the 80's, I was able to find the records back in the day
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
iconic t-shirt
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1566/3805/products/KQRS_PlainBlack_800x.jpg
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7ZbNVb7Qh0
one of the great videos ever, directed by chuck statler from mpls who later went on to direct whip it and other devo videos
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
wow, never seen that, thanks so much.
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
Your Numero Group Order Has Been Shipped
― sleeve, Monday, 6 November 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link