brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

he might just like the body of christ, melting on his tongue!

if he had politely snubbed the host, he'd probably have been in trouble on multiple fronts, so probably the right decision was made.

my line in full

A: the grown-ups are all gone, we will not see them again in our lifetimes
B: bcz it's up to us now god help us
C: deeper magic from before the dawn of modernity :|
D: ^^^a fuckton of this, it's everywhere, it's the ground we all walk on and it's gone live again

Derrida's work was very informed by Judaism; that's not the same as practising. Which reminds me of things I think I recall he wrote about Marx and Judaism. Which also reminds me to say fuck a militant anti-faith stance.

Also spacecadet is hugely otm which is why I don't want to play on the "lol Steve Gannon is physically unacceptable" thread

Bannon, phone

I once was sent to 2nd fix some uplights in a church, on a very narrow ledge with a 30ft sheer drop over the edge. I told the site manager I wouldn't work up there without a safety rail. The scaffolders that had to put it up took the piss out of me a few times later that day (what a pussy, scared of fatal drop etc), and I have had a low opinion of them ever since. Over the years I have witnessed scaffolders showing off by playing catch with big metal links at great heights. Or delighting in other peoples fear of heights (or as Steve Wright said, Widths) or generally just being the biggest, loudest, thick wankers on site, which is some achievement. But I am sort of on the side of posh artist woman, even though her education snobbery is very bad. Scaffolders are generally very bad as well ime.

How do you know they are scaffolders?

uniquely amongst the trades, scaffolders tend to have fat arses and tribal tats. I read that they were scaffolders somewhere, dude in the high viz looks more like an electrician. I just fancied slagging off scaffolders tbh!

after todays glut of doom-n-gloom i feel decidedly fed up.
basic summary : this country is totally f*cked.
i realise this is dark, but 5 years ago my finnish wife died, and you know what, the current evilness re EU makes me think that actually ...
ok, not really, just that my life if she were still alive would be seriously uncomfortable right now.
i genuinely hate this parliament/media/country at the moment.

I had somehow missed this story and the comments are an exciting mix of "how dare she judge these people by their appearance" (otm) and "lol she's ugly"

how is the weather on that moral high ground

yeah while i can't for a second condone the tweet and she may well be an unpleasant person, there were responses, including some from the type of left twitter hero you see in yr feed a few times a week, which seemed to trash her based on looks. the general sense of a huge pile-on to one person by many, many people is grim, regardless of who the person is.

mark: a lot of people are utter cunts, navigating that and not drifting into lame misanthropy is a decent way to live I reckon

Which you seem to manage well I meant to add

NV : ta.
the problem is that outside of my workplace (weirdly - my Happy Place) i am now surrounded by so many people who massively subscribe to the media dialogue and never question the sheer undiluted crap they are fed that it becomes incredibly tiresome/depressing.
i.e. Modern England.

yeah exackly and it is knackering

There are so many anti-disabled actions going on right now. The current ATOS campaign against MS sufferers has already caused one attempted suicide in my house. This is why I like gulag talk, cos fuck all these people forever, and any of their mealy mouthed apologists. I am sort of directing this at the "think of the feelings of liberals" bleatings from earlier. Some people don't seem to realise how hard pressed some people are becoming under current conditions. I don't mean this in a self-pitying manner, but in a things are very hard right now, for absolute real, kind of way. And anger is getting quite visceral manner.

God fearing cunt, Ian Cunt Jr. in the news:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/07/mp-100k-gifts-brexit-trade-deal/

this guy is so bent + amoral that he bought Shergar's teeth from the IRA!

fuck, Calzino, that's tough. I wish you and yours very well, mate.

Don't worry, maybe cometh the 100th Red October anniversary, cometh the start of the UK Gulag Archipelago. I am only bitterly joking really!

Shit, I had no idea your own situation was anywhere near that rough. No one should be defending that shit for a second and no one who does has any business calling themselves anything other than a Tory prick. All the best.

best wishes to you calzino. my wife has MS as well and can't work, so i'm sure there's some ATOS-related fuckery in the pipeline for us too

Offering best wishes to both of you.

also let's Baader-Meinhof some motherfuckers

thanks j. my wife has a half-decent pension from 20 years of nursing, so we're actually relatively lucky. would be inconvenience rather than jeopardy in our case eg. we could lose the car but would still have a roof over our heads. so many people out there not as fortunate as us though.

I can't find a link anymore, but a week, possibly two weeks ago I read a story about an English mother in her 70s who committed suicide because slowly more and more benefits and help for her autistic son were stripped away, she didn't see a way out. It stuck with me since bcz of Calzino's story. This is as real as it gets. I'm surprised I'm not hearing more about it (though I might not pay attention enough). There should be nationwide outrage.

Best to you both, Calz and Nick.

you're not hearing more about it because the media doesn't give half of one fuck

Yeah, best to you, man.

yep, all this bullshit will be over soon (in a good way), the tories are already dead, just somehow still twitching

NV mostly right, they can care in short bursts when the rating/readers groundhog indicates there's some eyeballs in it, and then it's 180 degrees around to the same shit that's normalising it. One piece every day on page 18 would do more good than a LIVING HELL OF HERO MUM THWARTED BY LABOUR COUNCIL front page once a year.

yep, all this bullshit will be over soon (in a good way), the tories are already dead, just somehow still twitching

by twitching, do you mean "still in power"?

lmao @ people who grew up in this country thinking "this tory government won't be around for long"

I have a sickly feeling that Corbyn's lol fashionability may have peaked

Stephen Bush's Peak Corbyn piece addresses that

Major's government did survive a long time. It didn't have brexit hanging over its head though that isn't to say it will be over soon.

Whether he's fashionable or not is neither here nor there, what Corbyn has that he didn't have before is a degree of power and authority (and the perception of both, which is almost as important). These are qualities that drained away from May almost immediately after the election and once they're gone it's virtually impossible to get them back - barring something huge and unexpected happening like, erm, a war. The Cabinet is weak with very few popular faces in it and it's about to preside over a debacle.

how does it address it? talking about something is not addressing it.

xpost.

Lol

I will try and be more precise in future on this and many other things.

seriously, i read the piece. how does it "address" the idea that corbyn has hit peak popularity? it just begins by saying some in labour think this is true, and some think it isn't.

like arguing with a scientologist

NV talks of a feeling that a fashion for Corbyn might have been reached. It's speculative, and all I was doing was pointing him to that piece which might give him more to think about on that point. It's also speculative, offers no stats or science.

It's pretty much impossible to read anything good about Corbyn let alone write it.

The question isn't whether or not Corbyn has hit peak popularity but whether the Tories have hit peak unpopularity (almost certainly not). People will vote for a government they dislike as long as it's seen as competent, and that's unlikely to the case for much longer.

A lot will depend on residual fear of a Corbyn government (likely to be significant) both from some swing voters but also from Tory MPs themselves. The press are never going to support him but it might affect the severity of the kicking they would otherwise give to the Tories.

The biggest threat now is that a Tory regicide puts someone more popular than May in power. Whether such a person exists I don't know.

however glorious this year's election defeat may have been, it's bought the Tories time. and I can't believe that May will lead them into the next election. the forces that galvanized Labour and forced the media to cover what Corbyn had to say feel like they're dissipating already. and we know he isn't strong as a soundbite parliamentary performer - which is great, but doesn't help my feeling that the party is sliding back into the doldrums. we'll see. I guess politics doesn't happen in the summer.

i can't believe the election was only in june, it feels like a hundred fucking years ago

Corbs could liven things up with a show trial and public execution of Blair, that'd be good.

Lol I can't believe I wrote my last post. Can someone fucking kill me already?

Please tell me if I addressed LGs critique or merely talked about it before putting me down. Thanks.

May really did drop off the radar altogether post-Grenfell. I've never known a PM disappear for so long.

She's extremely good at not showing up

I'm hoping this is just the feeling of accelerated time means that when something isn't happening right this second it must be declining. Difficult to tell (I hadnt thought of Labour sliding back till you mentioned it but who knows). As for May...I feel like if she survives next year might then last the duration but I'm not hugely able to read the lay of the land

Or is Davis acting leader now