brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

Patel just seems a bit thick to me.

aargh, confusing with someone else!!!

Sajid Javed? He's about the only one I can think of.

Yes, must be! All the Ayn Rand stuff as well..

Wrong colour.

Crabb is the proud working classer.

Still, all that Britannia Unchained guff...get the feeling this is the only place the Tories have left to go that is more than just a personality.

xxp very wrong

I know I shouldn't be surprised at this point but really...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/07/theresa-may-european-parliament-brussels-eu

“This is yet another own-goal,” one EU official said of May’s decision.

Elmar Brok MEP, a German member of the European parliament’s Brexit steering committee, said: “The European parliament remains ready to offer flexible solutions. Why make enemies? It’s ridiculous.”

contender for 'most 2017 image'

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/905560500863369216/i8QPFdVA?format=jpg&name=600x314

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/sep/07/how-the-aristocracy-preserved-their-power

If/when Labour draft their manifesto for the next election we can't forget this lot. Lotta revenue here everyone!

whos the guy at the bottom of the right hand panel, soref?

like a young Martin Amis

(xpost) Looks like Delingpole to me

I had somehow missed this story and the comments are an exciting mix of "how dare she judge these people by their appearance" (otm) and "lol she's ugly"

how is the weather on that moral high ground

ok, getting back to my "lol all the old stuff is returning with a vengeance" line, here's stephen bush on the "is corbs a secret catholic?" story

My assumption since his v theologically literate Easter message has been that Corbyn's a Godder: https://t.co/UrqzvaGdvU

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) September 7, 2017

(bush's mum is a CofE vicar) (also tony benn -- who was certainly once JC's lodestar -- was an active xtian)

Corbyn's uncle was a vicar; his wife and ex-wife are both Latina and Catholic.

I think he's secular/agnostic.

he might just like the body of christ, melting on his tongue!

if he had politely snubbed the host, he'd probably have been in trouble on multiple fronts, so probably the right decision was made.

my line in full

A: the grown-ups are all gone, we will not see them again in our lifetimes
B: bcz it's up to us now god help us
C: deeper magic from before the dawn of modernity :|
D: ^^^a fuckton of this, it's everywhere, it's the ground we all walk on and it's gone live again

Derrida's work was very informed by Judaism; that's not the same as practising. Which reminds me of things I think I recall he wrote about Marx and Judaism. Which also reminds me to say fuck a militant anti-faith stance.

Also spacecadet is hugely otm which is why I don't want to play on the "lol Steve Gannon is physically unacceptable" thread

Bannon, phone

I once was sent to 2nd fix some uplights in a church, on a very narrow ledge with a 30ft sheer drop over the edge. I told the site manager I wouldn't work up there without a safety rail. The scaffolders that had to put it up took the piss out of me a few times later that day (what a pussy, scared of fatal drop etc), and I have had a low opinion of them ever since. Over the years I have witnessed scaffolders showing off by playing catch with big metal links at great heights. Or delighting in other peoples fear of heights (or as Steve Wright said, Widths) or generally just being the biggest, loudest, thick wankers on site, which is some achievement. But I am sort of on the side of posh artist woman, even though her education snobbery is very bad. Scaffolders are generally very bad as well ime.

How do you know they are scaffolders?

uniquely amongst the trades, scaffolders tend to have fat arses and tribal tats. I read that they were scaffolders somewhere, dude in the high viz looks more like an electrician. I just fancied slagging off scaffolders tbh!

after todays glut of doom-n-gloom i feel decidedly fed up.
basic summary : this country is totally f*cked.
i realise this is dark, but 5 years ago my finnish wife died, and you know what, the current evilness re EU makes me think that actually ...
ok, not really, just that my life if she were still alive would be seriously uncomfortable right now.
i genuinely hate this parliament/media/country at the moment.

I had somehow missed this story and the comments are an exciting mix of "how dare she judge these people by their appearance" (otm) and "lol she's ugly"

how is the weather on that moral high ground

yeah while i can't for a second condone the tweet and she may well be an unpleasant person, there were responses, including some from the type of left twitter hero you see in yr feed a few times a week, which seemed to trash her based on looks. the general sense of a huge pile-on to one person by many, many people is grim, regardless of who the person is.

mark: a lot of people are utter cunts, navigating that and not drifting into lame misanthropy is a decent way to live I reckon

Which you seem to manage well I meant to add

NV : ta.
the problem is that outside of my workplace (weirdly - my Happy Place) i am now surrounded by so many people who massively subscribe to the media dialogue and never question the sheer undiluted crap they are fed that it becomes incredibly tiresome/depressing.
i.e. Modern England.

yeah exackly and it is knackering

There are so many anti-disabled actions going on right now. The current ATOS campaign against MS sufferers has already caused one attempted suicide in my house. This is why I like gulag talk, cos fuck all these people forever, and any of their mealy mouthed apologists. I am sort of directing this at the "think of the feelings of liberals" bleatings from earlier. Some people don't seem to realise how hard pressed some people are becoming under current conditions. I don't mean this in a self-pitying manner, but in a things are very hard right now, for absolute real, kind of way. And anger is getting quite visceral manner.

God fearing cunt, Ian Cunt Jr. in the news:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/07/mp-100k-gifts-brexit-trade-deal/

this guy is so bent + amoral that he bought Shergar's teeth from the IRA!

fuck, Calzino, that's tough. I wish you and yours very well, mate.

Don't worry, maybe cometh the 100th Red October anniversary, cometh the start of the UK Gulag Archipelago. I am only bitterly joking really!

Shit, I had no idea your own situation was anywhere near that rough. No one should be defending that shit for a second and no one who does has any business calling themselves anything other than a Tory prick. All the best.

best wishes to you calzino. my wife has MS as well and can't work, so i'm sure there's some ATOS-related fuckery in the pipeline for us too

Offering best wishes to both of you.

also let's Baader-Meinhof some motherfuckers

thanks j. my wife has a half-decent pension from 20 years of nursing, so we're actually relatively lucky. would be inconvenience rather than jeopardy in our case eg. we could lose the car but would still have a roof over our heads. so many people out there not as fortunate as us though.

I can't find a link anymore, but a week, possibly two weeks ago I read a story about an English mother in her 70s who committed suicide because slowly more and more benefits and help for her autistic son were stripped away, she didn't see a way out. It stuck with me since bcz of Calzino's story. This is as real as it gets. I'm surprised I'm not hearing more about it (though I might not pay attention enough). There should be nationwide outrage.

Best to you both, Calz and Nick.

you're not hearing more about it because the media doesn't give half of one fuck

Yeah, best to you, man.

yep, all this bullshit will be over soon (in a good way), the tories are already dead, just somehow still twitching

NV mostly right, they can care in short bursts when the rating/readers groundhog indicates there's some eyeballs in it, and then it's 180 degrees around to the same shit that's normalising it. One piece every day on page 18 would do more good than a LIVING HELL OF HERO MUM THWARTED BY LABOUR COUNCIL front page once a year.

yep, all this bullshit will be over soon (in a good way), the tories are already dead, just somehow still twitching

by twitching, do you mean "still in power"?

lmao @ people who grew up in this country thinking "this tory government won't be around for long"

I have a sickly feeling that Corbyn's lol fashionability may have peaked

Stephen Bush's Peak Corbyn piece addresses that

Major's government did survive a long time. It didn't have brexit hanging over its head though that isn't to say it will be over soon.