Coil s/d c/d etc

not to mention this recently issued beauty which is currently in the mail headed to my house:

https://img.discogs.com/vxZM8as9hb230WJiVz-lk5pddT8=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-10774292-1504285204-6019.jpeg.jpg

https://www.discogs.com/Coil-A-Cold-Cell-In-Bangkok/release/10774292

(shout out to stirmonster)

I've ordered the Time Machines CD but not that 4 minute vinyl thing :(

BTW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKql4sX49s8

Wild to think that Dais Records are unleashing this on the world

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1706649906_10.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIpTEc2XcAAhvkd.jpg:large

I'd like to buy the Time Machines record but I'm hoping that somewhere in the UK has it for sale. Postage from the US is a bit steep

but not that 4 minute vinyl thing

but, it's a lovely looking record. :-)

i'm fully aware it is a ridiculously short amount of music but i had had so many people ask me to do it that i succumbed. there is also the bonus that it looks like it will raise enough money to pay for sponsporing 20 vulnerable thai children for a year.

ok ok, it does look lovely and I did think about it :-)

Got the Time Machines remaster CD today, can't say I can hear that much or even any difference after a quick listen/compare (tried to look at the waveforms and the first track is about the same, second and third are a little bit quieter, third is a little louder and 10 seconds longer -> silence at the end) - but at the moment, I can't tell what they did. Maybe it's my ears, don't know

Mention of "vulnerable Thai children" made me think of this uncomfortable subject, which doesn't seem to have been aired much. I'm well aware that it opens a can of worms, but I think it should be at least acknowledged.

Last year Andrew McKenzie of the Hafler Trio wrote a blog post in which he made vague allegations of an unsavoury sort against Balance and Christopherson:

https://simply-superior.blogspot.com/2016/11/youre-dead-but-so-what.html

McKenzie seems like a serious and credible witness to me, but who knows?

it should be acknowledged, though i don't think anyone knows anything for sure and i certainly don't trust the word of mr. mackenzie who i once had the misfortune to book for a performance and who i found to be a deeply unpleasant, extremely narcissistic, untrustworthy individual.

but, even though it is just speculation, it is one of the reasons why i thought an organisation that helps thai children should be the recipient of all monies this record generates.

Stirmonster otm. I would never call Mackenzie "serious and credible" a witness. A short glance on his blog will show you this is not the case. Touch and Staalplaat need to be destroyed, he specifically asks people to take those labels down because of some personal vendetta, and his demeanor is querulant a lot of the time. He does not have substantial evidence to back up his claim.

I don't feel any need to defend Sleazy or Jhon, at all, but Mackenzie is scraping the barrel here, shrouded in "trust me, I knew these guys once" type indictments.

starting out your blog post with screenshots of 4chan is not the way to look very credible, imo

eh i've heard this same stuff for years and years. i believe it.

I've heard it too, but it never went any further than "it's been said for years and years" which is kind of the problem. Hafler as well: it's all "trust me, I know" instead of actually saying what he knows or saw or whatever.

he said he knew Sleazy would go to Thailand to have sex with young children.

how is that not "actually saying what he knows" ?

I think there's a noncommittal vagueness to repeatedly implying something and saying "I have been vocal about _this_" while alluding to Saville, etc. and posting 4chan screenshots, and not explicitly saying what you mean

there's an implication but not an accusation, and it all reads very much like gossip

actually "saying what he knows" would be "I know he went to Thailand and later moved there to have sex with..." and then an actual accusation

I mean if you just put Saville on there he could mean virtually anything

https://www.strandedrecords.com/products/coil-another-brown-world-baby-food-lp

Just picked this up, it’s fantastic

http://thequietus.com/articles/24398-dais-coil-reissues : Worship The Glitch & A Thousand Lights In A Darkened Room

wow, I wonder how they pulled that off?

bums me out so much that their catalog seems to be in legal limbo.

Coil member Drew McDowell supervised the remaster, maybe that helped?

https://www.daisrecords.com/collections/coil/products/elph-vs-coil-worship-the-glitch-cd-lp
https://www.daisrecords.com/collections/coil/products/coil-black-light-district-cd-lp

The Ape Of Naples, the final studio album, is available.

― StanM (StanM), Friday, December 2, 2005 12:14 PM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and it's the best thing they ever did! amazing.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:29 AM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it is amazing but it'll be a wee while before i could say it is the greatest thing they ever did.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:14 PM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's been a wee while, and StanM was right, it is (still) the best thing they ever did

I think that's actually me saying it's the best thing they ever did (which feels like a bit of an overstatement now, although it is definitely up there).

Ah, you're right, it was you! Sorry, misread that.

I'm still gonna have to go with MTPITD but Ape may have higher high points, granted

vol 1 or 2?

Both :)

If I had to choose, the one with "Broccoli"

MTPITD 1 FTW

For overall life impact / most revisited, forever Horse rotorvator.

I might go with MTPID2 just for Batwings.

Moving Batwings from vol. 2 to vol. 1 makes vol. 1 a perfect album and vol. 2 pretty inessential imo

the two Dais Records albums are out btw

Moving Batwings from vol. 2 to vol. 1 makes vol. 1 a perfect album and vol. 2 pretty inessential imo

OK listening to vol 1 + batwings today and I am inclined to agree.

I was prompted to listen to some Coil today by going back to a bunch of Vladimir Ivokovic mixes. This one in particular might be of interest to people on this thread:

https://www.mixesdb.com/w/2018-03-01_-_Vladimir_Ivkovic_-_Phonica_Mix_Series_46

The Xen track on here is incredible, but can't find any further info about it on Discogs, not even the Les Disques De La Mort label page. Know anything about it?

Anyway, great mix, thanks!

Drew McDowall doesn't seem to have his own thread on here but I chatted with the good man recently about some of his new favorites.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2018/09/24/big-ups-drew-mcdowall/

The Xen track on here is incredible, but can't find any further info about it on Discogs, not even the Les Disques De La Mort label page. Know anything about it?

No, I did try poking around a bit, but couldn't find anything apart from it being in a few other mixes. Guessing it's still forthcoming? I agree it's awesome.

If you liked this mix then definitely check out others by Ivkovic, there are a load of great ones.

Being able to buy Coil CDs in HMV in a non descript Northern town (Warrington) is an odd thing but I picked up a copy of Worship the Glitch in there last Sunday. It feels right. I want them to seep into other people's lives and their waking lives the way they have mine. Feels right to be able to walk to my flat just minutes walk from the Mersey river, past the weird sports bar where the owner first played me early Tangerine Dream to listen to it. Feels like the sort of thing that'd make Geff and Sleazy happy.

aw, thanks for that post. I miss them.

happy solstice:

http://live-coil-archive.com/

A hell of a thing. Will be deep diving a bit more into that soon.

Ah this is great. Thanks !

Just in time for winter! Perfect.

A cursory look reveals no actual audio, though, just information, reviews and photos - or am I missing it?

Either way, this is great. Thank you!

the download links are at the bottom of every gig page

You know which release is among their most perfect material and slightly lacking exposure for new fans ? The Remote Viewer. The one with five tracks. It may have displaced The Ape, Horse and MtpitD1 as my definite favorite.

Also, random anecdote: one night once, I thought I saw a ghost by my open window as I was listening very attentively to A White Rainbow. Whatever optical illusion was at work made me talk to it, to see if I'd get any answer.

check out this one too, I always think it fits well with The Remote Viewer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_Milk_(In_Four_Phases)_Bonus_Disc

You know which release is among their most perfect material and slightly lacking exposure for new fans ? The Remote Viewer. The one with five tracks. It may have displaced The Ape, Horse and MtpitD1 as my definite favorite.

― Nabozo, Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:05 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Black Antlers fits the bill here too, I think

BTW, don't ignore the 'LCA Studio Coil Projects' section of the archive -- four collections of unreleased demos, with (according to them) no duplication with the bonus tracks from the reissues three years back.

thanks for pointing that out!

yep, that's the real meat here (at least, so far)

wowwww @ the full length version of 'Boy In A Suitcase' - still digging into these studio sessions, some incredible stuff here