POLLIN' for nothing and yer chicks for free - Dire Straits - BROTHERS IN ARMS

Was So Far Away a single in the UK? The title doesn't ring any bells but fucked if I'm going to listen to it to find out. Walk Of Life is a crime against humanity. Title track is corny but the guitar playing is lovely.

sting was everywhere in 1985

Sting sang the line "I Want My MTV" on "Money for Nothing", a 1985 hit by Dire Straits ... In 1985, Sting provided spoken vocals for the Miles Davis album You're Under Arrest, taking the role of a French-speaking police officer. He also sang backing vocals on Arcadia's single "The Promise", on two songs from Phil Collins' album No Jacket Required, and contributed "Mack the Knife" to the Hal Willner-produced tribute album Lost in the Stars: The Music of Kurt Weill

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He was apparently on holiday on Montserrat - The Police had already recorded a couple of albums there at AIR. So it was pretty much a "same place at the same time" kinda thing, but NickB is right... Sting was everywhere as much as Phil Collins was.

'So Far Away' wasn't just a single in the UK, it was the lead single.

Dream of the Blue Turtles was recorded in Barbados at around the same time as BIA, so only a short hop away. that also had Omar Hakim on drums btw

I've totally forgotten it. Hum it for me (xp)

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It's kinda funny how neither album sounds as if it was recorded in the Caribbean!

Cover version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ihqk7iapM8

Compass Point Monserrat is the New Jersey of recording studios

Seriously. Remain In Light like the least recorded in the Caribbean album ever.

Btw I didn't even know sting was on "money for nothing" ! What's the story ?

― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:03 (fifty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Listening to it now with that in mind it's almost a duet ! Should have been "a featuring Sting" credit !

― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:05 (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

meant to say, you probably noticed he's basically singing 'don't stand so close to me' right?

microwaaaaaaave ovens

I can imagine Remain in Light being recorded in the Caribbean, buf definitely not this.

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That's why he got the co-writing credit!

i remember at my primary school there was a crossover in 1985 where some boys wore headbands bcz of Mark Knopfler and some wore headbands because of Turbo in the movie Breakin'

looking back it was a v odd venn diagram, lol

Boogaloos In Arms

i just listened to 'ride across the river' and you can definitely hear the ghost of sly and robbie there. could've been an out-take from nightclubbing, albeit a boring one.

i like the new age keyboards and guitar flourishes on Why Worry

at least half a dozen of these songs have some super iconic bit. the opening to Ride Across the River must have been used in a million things.

yes I instinctively voted for "So Far Away" but listening it's "Why Worry" that stands out. I like the fretless bass in particular; now I hear it on other tracks (like "One World") but I don't think it's as prominent elsewhere as it is on this track.

they should've put a les paul on the cover of this thing cos those are the songs that really leap out for me guitar-wise. what does he even play the national on?

you know there's a surprisingly high number of Mark Knopfler paintings out there

http://saimg-a.akamaihd.net/saatchi/771185/art/2797596/1867489-ESEHXBZL-7.jpg

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/mark-knopfler-stefan-kuhn.jpg

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/mark-knopfler-dire-straits-dan-haraga.jpg

the old guitarist

https://t11.deviantart.net/bvWynN1wGURydLQPgBXcHpqNu5k=/fit-in/700x350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre03/9915/th/pre/i/2014/267/3/b/mark_knopfler_drawing_2013_by_lilie1111-d65pewc.jpg

https://orig02.deviantart.net/f9a2/f/2014/185/4/0/guitar_hero_mark_knopfler_by_lilie1111-d6ywrxc.jpg

I thought that second last one was Sinatra.

they should've put a les paul on the cover of this thing cos those are the songs that really leap out for me guitar-wise. what does he even play the national on?

Climate of Hunter.

Haha yes!

Those paintings really are a marvel

is there Mark Knopfler fanfic?

said this on another thread, but I think Dire Straits is the secret special sauce of the War on Drugs. No one in the US or UK wanted to sound like DS for 30 years after BiA, but the standard WiD long jams sound like Love Over Gold/ Making Movies' more expansive tunes.

This helps explain how Knopfler tickets are like $100 when he tours to my local downtown theater.

there's gotta be a Princess Bride element to Knopfler fandom

I tell you what would improve this record is if they had steve ignorant reciting the lyrics of 'how does it feel to be the mother of 1000 dead' over the top of the guitar solos on the title track

Re-listening to 'Your Latest Trick' again now... ah, now that's a sax lick.

i think this album hit at the precise right time, it has a bit of everything for everyone who was a major record buying audience in 1985. some slick roots rock, MTV sheen, Miami Vice moodiness, and even that sax lick...it sounds like Dire Straits but it also sounds like half a dozen other major, vv popular acts (and evokes other pop culture touchstones) hitting right around the same moment in time.

lots of aspects of the album sounded familiar to me even as a ten year old hearing it for the first time when my parents spun the vinyl. i'm also pretty sure this was the last record my folks bought, and the first they'd bought in awhile for themselves and not for my brother and i.

I hadn't noticed until recently how many rock songs are about a befuddled, probably overweight/out of shape singer throwing his love away on loose women and prostitutes. How many prostitutes do rock stars meet? It represents the paucity of their imaginations, the sorry state of their sex lives, or both.

Well, yeah.

I think it's more that they think all women are whores, regardless of whether they actually are or not

xp

it's this thing where they're acting like the raconteur admiring women from afar, appreciating them, commenting on their appearance, playing the gentleman but acting the possessor, ah don't you know women are just these beautiful mysterious things who we can't comprehend and sometimes they do these baffling things, but we love them anyway....wanting the solid home base but also wanting the mystery lady who's out there in a bar somewhere waiting for you. i mean that's obv a common rock star thing but boy i know a lot of men (especially from my parents' generation, it seems) who are like this IRL all the time.

just be thankful he's not singing about les boys again

I really like the extended outro on the full version of 'Why Worry' - the vinyl version just feels like half a song to me now. They could have easily have lopped off 'Walk of Life' to make room for it.

If I remember correctly, Neil Dorfsman argued with the band over 'Walk of Life' because he felt it didn't warrant a place on the album. He was right.

It's the title song for me. When "Brothers in Arms" came out I was studying in Munich and a friend who was a big Dire Straits fan taped it for me. I listened to it when I went to bed. And I usually got to the last song before falling asleep and it was always a perfect lullabye and so tender, I loved it to pieces. I think this song was also playing in the car stereo of that guy we had met in a Munich pub. We had not slept the night and were coming back from the Starnberger See in the afternoon and the guy fell asleep for a second and missed the curve and we went straight into a field. In that moment my sister's friend who was the 4th passenger thought about our poor parents who were about to lose their two only children in that accident. It didn't happen though, the car stopped in the middle of that field without turning over and somehow we even succeeded in putting it back on the road. As you see that album and especially that song is linked to sleep in my memory.

wow

just be thankful he's not singing about les boys again

― plp will eat itself (NickB),

that's the way to do it!

great post

voted the title track, I wonder if Gilmour ever heard "Brothers in Arms" and was like damn headband boy beat me at my own game

ugh Knopfler is about as sexy as a moist jockstrap

.. odd i was just thinking today that i could go the rest of my life not hearing "Money For Nothing" ever again.

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compelling

I have no fondness for "Walk of Life," though my sister's longtime hatred of it might have colored my reaction.

There's a blank steel-y nothingness to "so far away" that I find vaguely conpelling

― brimstead,

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Alfred's baseball theory checks out, this was a song that was used as bumper music back in the corny '80s and even into the '90s on the local Cubs broadcasts (along w/Centerfield and, uh, a Beach Boys re-recording):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Ann

In 1987, the group re-recorded the song as "Here Come the Cubs" with re-written lyrics about the Chicago Cubs.[3] It became the team's official theme that year, replacing "Go, Cubs, Go".[4]

Maybe not the best place to post this, but whatever. Heard this song on classic rock radio today at work, and noticed that they bleeped the word "faggot." My immediate reaction, at least after noticing it (as this is a song I would otherwise not notice), was "whatever, no one needs to hear that stupid fucking word." But then I started to think about what a hollow gesture it is for the station to censor a lyric in a song that literally every person has already heard a million times. I tried to imagine any kind of person I know--queer or otherwise--feeling better, or safer, hearing that word omitted, and I could not think of a single example. I imagine the sudden omission of the word after decades of hearing it on radio and MTV could potentially alienate and even incense the core classic rock radio demographic--and maybe that alone is a good thing, I dunno--but is there a brain on Earth that does not automatically mentally fill in the blank when that verse comes up?

Don't get me wrong: I am very happy we live during a time in which we are beginning to more carefully consider the way words like "faggot" are hurtful while at the same time no longer bleeping Tom Petty singing about "roll(ing) another joint" or Pink Floyd singing about "goody goody bullshit." But something about this gesture seemed insincere to me, like a pandering concession to something that has nothing to do with social justice (and not just because Knopfler is writing not as himself but "in character," which is a cop out defense I am tired of hearing).

Does the word "faggot" in "Money For Nothing" bother you? I ask about this song in particular simply because it is so ubiquitous, and I have literally never heard a person in real life question the use of the word in this song. (I believe there are other threads to discuss similar slurs in songs by X and The Fall and Patti Smith and...)