Wow I have not thought about Catherine Wheel in a good decade.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link
Change yr mind is the most direct Talking Heads pastiche in hear but not hearing it that much. I think it sounds more like LCD Soundsystem trying to sound like LCD Soundsystem this time. So a copy of a copy.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Monday, September 4, 2017
^^This.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link
Emotional Haircut is the one that really sounds like Talking Heads to me, or like '80s King Crimson trying to be Talking Heads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUqGK-Z9a9I
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link
Just got around to listening to this - unsurprisingly, I like it.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 8 September 2017 06:15 (six years ago) link
and I'm not much of a fan of Talking Heads.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 8 September 2017 06:35 (six years ago) link
Emotional Haircut reminded me more of Wire than anything else
― ufo, Friday, 8 September 2017 07:11 (six years ago) link
One of them really sounds like Berlin Bowie. Specifically Heroes, with the crazy Fripp guitar.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 08:41 (six years ago) link
do you think the references make the record better/worse/doesn't matter?
― niels, Friday, 8 September 2017 12:37 (six years ago) link
All their records have absolutely been laden with references, musical and lyrical, to other music. Hell, their debut single was literally a list of people who inspired them. It's part of the DNA, the schtick, the USP of LCD Soundsystem. Less a band than a system that mashes up other music and plays it back to you. They're the 00s American Primal Scream.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 12:50 (six years ago) link
They're the 00s American Primal Scream.
Also, Primal Scream were largely the product of great producers, not a great band. I know someone who was around for the creation of 'Screamadelica' and he will tell you that record was the output of holing up in the studio with some average rock tracks, Andrew Weatherhall being an enthuisastic total amateur at the time and not knowing what was wrong to do, and a Herculean amount of pot.
In contract, LCD is unquestionably the James Murphy show. He even had that interview recently where he said he gave up on producing other people because he can't work that way (i.e. collaborate!)
― yesca, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
So what's your take on Vanishing Point and XTRMNTR, then?
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 8 September 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
Primal Scream were largely the product of great producers, not a great band
― yesca, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link
It's a different system that does the mashing.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
james murphy is just a heavy-handed production outfit who happens to also be the artist
― mh, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link
Aye.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link
this bored me
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 September 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
Thanks! Why?
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
this album is class
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link
xposts:
You have a point with Screamadelica, not so much the othet two.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
Screamadelica's approach is replicated in XTRMNTR by [the core of] Primal Scream specifically seeking out various producers for different sounds on specific songs. This is obviously a creative decision by the band - they knew that Paterson and Miller and Weatherall would provide disparate results, and sought them as collaborators, just as they sought Denise or George Clinton or Augustus Pablo or Mani as collaborators. That they were making their decisions wilfully, not being shaped helplessly at the whim of hired adults, is underscored by Vanishing Point sounding like Vanishing Point, not like Wild Wood and Stanley Road.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7957890/lcd-soundsystem-james-murphy-no-1-album-billboard-200-chart
No. 1 on US Album chart ... but it's bringing me down
― curmudgeon, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link
85000 copies sold, that is impressive
― niels, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
81000 even...
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, September 8, 2017 10:00 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I guess it's sort of on paper a lot of things that I "should" like a lot, wrt all the post punk references edging up against dance stuff but with a certain classic rock grandiose stadium quality
but overall, i don't know there's no weird mental frission that marks the best period post punk for me, a genuine weirdness and disorienting quality that comes from maybe not really knowing what the fuck you are doing in a way, or trying to accomplish things that are beyond your abilities
like whatever early PIL or Raincoats or Swell Maps or Joy Division/New Order or The Fall or Gang of Four have, this just doesn't have it to me, it feels like he is a canny guy with good taste and a good template for what makes LCD Soundsystem albums at this point but ultimately it's like, I dunno, All That You Can't Leave Behind era U2 or something, some real pros executing their style effectively
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
"some real pros executing their style effectively"
that sounds great!
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
it helps if it's in any way interesting, too
I mean, you could write some music that is completely uninteresting but checks all the stylistic and technical boxes, and perform it in a proficient way, and still be boring as hell
― mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link
(that isn't about LCD, just that praising well-performed things isn't necessarily a complement)
― mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
get a sense that they are trying to accomplish Belew solos at points in this, but it is beyond their abilities
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 11 September 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link
otm
― flappy bird, Monday, 11 September 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
I guess good for them for not just having Byrne/Belew/anyone else just play on their records, since surely they could at this point?
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 September 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
I'm not sure Byrne would be in, but Belew is cool doing session work and I'm fine with that!
― mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
― ufo, Friday, September 8, 2017 12:11 AM (three days ago)
As soon as I read that I could hear "I'm the Fly" in my head.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link
Album art looks like an ilxor quoteblock
― flippy bard (Will M.), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 09:47 (six years ago) link
Pre-s/t singles = metal gear solidS/t = metal gear solid 2Sound of silver = metal gear solid 345:33 = metal gear solid peace walkerThis is happening = metal gear solid 4American dream = metal gear solid 5Introns, bunch of stuff, the one from the Kevin spacey movie, etc = ghost babel, portable ops, the tactical rpg one, etc
If you know what I am talking about and disagree, fucking fight me
― flippy bard (Will M.), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 09:55 (six years ago) link
I have no idea wtf you mean.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link
good for you, otherwise you'd have to fucking fight him!
― niels, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 13:04 (six years ago) link
American dream = metal gear solid 5
Also, lol.
― yesca, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link
i don't think that analogy works at all but lol
― ufo, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link
Also Murphy and Kojima might have similar tastes - Murphy clearly loves New Order and Kojima named one of his releases 'Substance' for the same reason - but as far as temperment is concerned, Kojima has none of that James Murphy self deprecation and referentiality; Kojima is 100% scatterbrain ego mania, moving effortlessly from David Bowie references to fuckin' holographic blue whales coming out of the fuckin' earth.
As I type this I realize Kojima would slay that wimpy Murphy.
― yesca, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
love you nerds
― mh, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
Kojima is an old goth - he always post stuff abt New Order, Joy Division, the Smiths, Echo & the Bunnymen etc etc
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
I can't stop hearing Geddy Lee sing "Emo-tion-al haircut - on timeless wavelength/bearing a gift beyond price/almost free"
i will never fucking forgive this thread for forcing me to equate "zaireeka" to metal gear
― james brooks, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
This thread is more interesting than this drab of an album.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link
a lil drab'll do ya, in this case
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
will never fucking forgive this thread for forcing me to equate "zaireeka" to metal gear
You're welcome.
― yesca, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 01:31 (six years ago) link
His records sound so great.This one sounds way better than the last one to me, which was kinda thin-sounding? All the synths sound amazing.Definitely a bass guitar album.And looking at the credits it's mostly JM...he's a really good bass player, huh?
This one sounds way better than the last one to me, which was kinda thin-sounding? All the synths sound amazing.
Definitely a bass guitar album.
And looking at the credits it's mostly JM...he's a really good bass player, huh?
The album was mastered by Shellac bass player Bob Weston, if that could have something to do with it
Anyway I'm in love with this performance from Jools Holland last week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORGpezG5-Jc
― nate woolls, Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:20 (six years ago) link
Bob Weston's is always a name I'm pleased to see on mastering credits.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 October 2017 10:18 (six years ago) link
I, surprisingly, did not have a problem with the album, but no joke, I literally forgot it existed.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:32 (six years ago) link
Finally listened to this today; the CD's been sitting on top of a speaker for two weeks. There's been plenty of other new stuff to listen to, but I think I've also been avoiding it.
But it's ... actually really, really good! TBH I was more than happy for 'Home' to be their final statement, but I'm pleased to be so wrong. And whoever said upthread that this was a bass guitar album was totally OTM.
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link