Are there ANY plans to reissue Husker Du?

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There's a certain purity of vision to early Huskers, as there is with much punk and hardcore, but it's really about setting the stage for the real story. Not sure it has much of a story to tell itself any more than, say, the Suicide Commandos boxed set did. As hyped as I am to get any Husker Du set, this seems like mostly archaeology/anthropology.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

Though I dunno, Everything Falls Apart And More sounding pretty good right now ... I wonder how much a total newcomer would be into this set if they knew nothing of the later stuff (as unlikely as such a scenario might be)?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

the Suicide Commandos boxed set

Wait, the what now?

"Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

Anthology, sorry.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

Oh, wait, is that a bootleg? Never mind.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

track list looks like it includes the "Amusement" Record Store Day single Numero put out

http://www.numerogroup.com/products/hsker-d-amusement-3

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

I hadn't seen that before, it's Make A Record plus their two singles. I was hoping for unreleased stuff. Listening to the first Huskers disc, some of the poppier demos sound like the Commandos to me. I saw them very early on, but don't recall ever hearing them sound like that live. xp

"Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

Isn't Katzman putting out a brand new Suicide Commandos record?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

It's fantastic!

"Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

xp

https://www.discogs.com/The-Suicide-Commandos-Time-Bomb/master/1196599

sleeve, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

wonder how much a total newcomer would be into this set if they knew nothing of the later stuff (as unlikely as such a scenario might be)?

Not too hard to imagine someone in their teens/early twenties never having heard them before and being intrigued by either the post punk or hardcore angle. When was the last time husker du were reviewed in pitchfork for instance?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

Hmm, maybe? Does anyone in their teens/early 20s even listen to hardcore? Or any of the SST acts? I have no idea. I don't even know if anyone in their teens listens to Van Halen.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link

Does anyone in their teens/early 20s even listen to hardcore?

there's certainly hardcore kids around I don't know if they listen to old hard core or new bands tho.

black flag and misfits shirts never go away

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

omg lol at young ppl listening to van halen
i can see HD resonating WAY more with youth of today than van halen!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

my kid likes old stuff. he went and saw DRI this summer. he's 14.

scott seward, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

the lack of sexist lyrical content alone make HD more current than the average punk/hc/heavy/loud band from the '80s

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

i didn't realize it at the time but that was a huge part of their appeal for me as a young person

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

re: new generations getting into Hüsker Dü - yes, yes, yes! it is possible & needs to happen! i said this in the other thread, but I heard Flip Your Wig for the first time when I was 19, and I couldn't believe how great it was & how the fuck I had missed out on hearing it a decade after I became a Nirvana & Green Day superfan. "Makes No Sense At All" is the gateway for young teenagers and pre-teens imo. I'm happy this is coming out - anything HD related that's new is good, and I adore Everything Falls Apart - but as NickB mentioned, HD is consistently overlooked & forgotten by publications that are responsible for exposing tons of young kids to awesome old shit. there'd be no reason to do a retrospective review of the SST records because the digital/CD versions sound like absolute fucking shit. HD is one of the only bands where the difference between the digital & the vinyl is incredibly stark.

re: resonance of the primitive political lyrics - i completely agree, i listen to "In a Free Land" and "Everything Falls Apart" whenever I'm feeling especially hopeless or forlorn. this one sticks with me:

GOT NOTHING TO DO
GOT NOTHING TO SAY
EVERYTHING IS SO FUCKED UP
I GUESS WE LIKE IT THAT WAY
EVERYTHING FALLS APART

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

totally
i also enjoyed reading Things Fall Apart knowing this song

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

although i think different sounds resonate with different young people, there is a lot to like in HD that they won't find in a lot of HD's contemporaries

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link

definitely. i could never get into Black Flag, Big Black, even The Replacements. it's all so dull, black & white sounding to me. rudimentary songwriting, playing, and guitar sounds. Mould is just a monster as a player: his Frankenstein amp & effects setup is just insane, & his tendency to write entire songs in the first position on the guitar, making his massive setup sound even bigger thru the use of drone notes. it's that swirling, silver, electric metallic sound that can't be tamed. and that's just the guitar. lyrically he was so much more nuanced and interesting than his SST contemporaries.

i have to re-read Things Fall Apart - read it in 8th grade & remember almost none of it.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

I pre-ordered but it looks like the DL links are not yet working:

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sleeve, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

Bob and esp Grant are, uh, kinda smokin' in that pic w/ Matos' piece.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

grant was a super cutie

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link

well I think their dissolute touring lifestyle took an obvious toll mid- to late HuDu.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

Similar to The Smiths, lack of communication & lack of management/guidance did them in without much time to reflect. It's just such a shame. I often think about Mould's quote at the end of the HD chapter in Azerrad's Our Band Could Be Your Life: "We could've done so much more."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

For anyone who hasn't read it yet, the bit on this page about the cover of Metal Circus is pretty interesting and i feel like a big dummy for not noticing any of that stuff before:

http://www.numerogroup.com/products/hsker-du-extra-circus

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

colored vinyl edition already sold out, it appears

sleeve, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

http://www.thirdav.com/hd_images/msp_sites/milton_bldg.html

pplains, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

Wonder if Spot is still a fixture in Austin, and if he and Bob ever ran into each other when Bob lived there.

When I Get To The Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link

Some of that early stuff on the box reminds me of the Buzzcocks, especially stuff like Picture Of You.

I totally got into HD when I was 16, after Krist Novoselic suggested Nevermind sounded like HD. First HD album I bought was Land Speed Record, which threw me off the trail a little - but my next one was Zen Arcade, and after that I was hooked forever. If there's any way a kid will dig a band from before they're born, HD are a good candidate for obsession.

[They'd only really been split four years when I got into them, but that still felt like forever tbh]

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 09:19 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I had LSR, undeniably a strong band but a hard listen.

I just dialled "Warehouse" up on Spotify this morning for various reasons, blimey a lot of it is like some of the songs I wrote back in the day, no wonder they were as influential as they were.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 09:40 (six years ago) link

I love LSR now but it's like choosing Free Jazz as your first jazz LP.

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 09:47 (six years ago) link

LSR is a punishing listen but it has the best song titles: "Let's Go Die," "Push the Button," "Guns at My School," "I'm Not Interested," "Tired of Doing Things"...

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

The alternative to "Land Speed Record" included in this box set appears to be the September 5th, 1981 Minneapolis at 7th St Entry.

so killer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HPBNuofVLo

sleeve, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

Feel like I can gauge my mental wellbeing by the number of times the phrase 'lets go die' pops into my mind during any given month tbh (sad lols)

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

Why should I stay and give my life away?

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Thursday, 7 September 2017 10:21 (six years ago) link

bricklayer is just blistering on LSR - 3 verses, 3 choruses, guitar solo, in, what, 54 seconds?

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Thursday, 7 September 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link

Anyone have the "Live...First Avenue 85" recorded for SPIN radio's concert series? How does it sound?

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 7 September 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

Hoffman forum is all over this release btw, and this was posted recently:

For what it is worth, in a discussion of this set on another message board, this was posted:
"I have a friend at Numero Group. A Zen Arcade centric box will be out some time around the turn of the year."

Let's hope he's right!!

more speculation, sure, but hey it's fun!

sleeve, Thursday, 7 September 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

I have a vinyl boot of it and its a little muffle but strong, and definitely worth having.

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Thursday, 7 September 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

not gonna lie this reissue burst of dü news has me pumped on listening to them again

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

oh fuck yeah xxp. any boxset with 1983-4 shows = instant purchase

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

im sure you all have seen this but it should be reposted as often as possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1fBMtaVd9s

fuck. that guitar sound

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

Bob is wired to the gills on speed and he can't even move around!!

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

yeah I think a lot of people shit on Spot for how the Huskers records sound (which I actually would argue if they sounded like more conventionally "better" rock albums, they would be worse)...but I think the band just really had a weird ass sheet metal roar sound to them

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 September 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

i've said this before but the LPs sound great, Zen Arcade & New Day Rising in particular. they have the low-end that the digital transfers have always lacked, without sacrificing any of that sheet metal roar. hearing "Chartered Trips" on vinyl for the first time was an incredible experience. although it's my favorite Hüskers record, Flip Your Wig has that horribly dated gated reverb on the drums, and there's no remaster that can fix that.

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

sheet metal roar is so OTM

campreverb, Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link


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