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That sucks. I don't like when things like that happen to the mind of someone who has been such a kindred presence.

Pram (with Rosie) had a plane of their own, and they were the absolute rulers of it. If there must be a Pram without her, I do think instrumental/film scoring is the approach most likely to be worthwhile.

ps Chrysalis is one of the best songs ever recorded

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 12:00 (six years ago) link

never tweet your heroes

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

truth

maura, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

"Dark Island" became a great favourite of mine a few years ago, a strong Broadcast influence evident throughout but completely it's own thing.

Spiked? For fuck's sake, Rosie. Why did it have to be that coven of wankers?

Pheeel, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

she wasn't very nice the one time I met her (which was in 2002) so I'm not incredibly surprised. Still like the music

akm, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

Oh fuck

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link

Pram fill the crater sized hole left by trish Keenan’s death

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link

So are they all instrumental now?

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 15 June 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link

No Rosie no cred tho

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link

Yes but Rosie is nuts now

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:47 (five years ago) link

Separate the art from artist imo

Dunno I mean I just love her voice

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:48 (five years ago) link

No me too
Was being flip

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link

Lol good on ya

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

broadcast were such a pram rip off. 'the stars are so big...' is underrated magic. new songs a bore w/o cuckston vox though

meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link

I...am annoyed I missed this news earlier.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link

broadcast - a pram rip off? LOL

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link

pram are amazing but c'mon

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

I love both and don't really see it.

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 04:43 (five years ago) link

they're more like the voodoo queens

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 04:46 (five years ago) link

I always thought of Pram as the weird sister in the basement doing taxidermy and catching bugs to chloroform and mount.

Broadcast upstairs watching French new wave movies and listening to 60s pop and Jean Jacques Perrey.

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link

Very apt

Rosie’s voice is def more of an acquired taste tho it has “smoothed” out since the earlier records obviously

Also broadcast took a stylistic dip on that last record (not including children of Alice). Saw them on tender buttons tour and witch cults - TB was all ring modulated gnarled synths and a good time. Witch tour had tons of hammer
Horror style occult projections onstage - some of the music wasn’t recognizable as on record and older hits were played sparingly.

With witch, focus group collab ep and especially
Mother is the Milky Way - broadcast were going increasingly acoustic and minimal, closer to a tripped out folk sound. much different than anything pram did - i still haven’t found mother ep around here but I’ll upload it when I do.

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 09:03 (five years ago) link

Also always worth saying trish was a sweetheart

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 09:06 (five years ago) link

ok i drunkposted last night -- but i remember listening to first broadcast LP at my friends, ready to get excited about getting into them, and it totally reeked of pram in every way, and i got bored after the first half anyway.

meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:35 (five years ago) link

Hi meaulnes

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:38 (five years ago) link

...hi. sorry, im a gobshite.

meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link

Nah you’re not, I gotta work on my drunk posting myself
Welcome

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link

I always thought of Pram as the weird sister in the basement doing taxidermy and catching bugs to chloroform and mount.

Broadcast upstairs watching French new wave movies and listening to 60s pop and Jean Jacques Perrey.

― my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:56 (five hours ago) Permalink

Love this description

daavid, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

pram were more piano magic than broadcast but they all fit in the same continuum

akm, Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link

Listened to North Pole radio station this evening because thread

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:45 (five years ago) link

Excellent record. Pram also have stunning diver set for their records

mind how you go (Ross), Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:23 (five years ago) link

My single favorite pram song is on the Meshes EP - “Chrysalis”

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

new record is so good <3

maura, Monday, 23 July 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

^this

Saw them live for the first time last night. Fascinating. Can't think of anyone who constructs a four minute song in the same way they do.

Jeff W, Monday, 23 July 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

very glad to hear that maura!

Ross, Friday, 27 July 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

listening on youtube, there are vocals on 'electra' and 'shadow of twilight' so if it's not rosie then who is it that is singing? it sounds like rosie. maybe i am listening to the wrong thing. amazing that the horn player has never improved. is it still mr verdigris horn? maybe a bit like what bits of a plone album would sound like now on the instrumentals, but then they've always shared some similarities. i must admit that i am not as familiar with song titles on the domino releases. maybe i've heard all of these before? and me once saying they were my favorite band. they are still my favorite band to blast in the car with the windows down.

Keythkeythkeyth, Friday, 27 July 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link

goes a bit smooth jazz in places(ladder to the moon), hmmm...but next one is better, old timey jazz. why isn't there a filmmaker making movies designed to use pram songs as the soundtrack? the video someone made for the single??? is great, maybe they've got an entire movie in them.

Keythkeythkeyth, Friday, 27 July 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

sam owen plays bass and sings

maura, Friday, 27 July 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

Current line-up:
Sam(antha) Owen - vocals, flute, clarinet, soprano saxophone, accordion, keyboards, bass
Matt Eaton - guitar, sampler
Max Simpson - keyboards/synth, sampler, melodica
Harry Dawes - trombone, theremin, stylophone
plus there's an excellent female drummer playing with them live atm

Jeff W, Saturday, 28 July 2018 11:06 (five years ago) link

stuart maconie had a chat with sam and max on the freak zone a couple of weeks ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b91w1t (starts about 49 minutes in, available for 10 more days)

koogs, Saturday, 28 July 2018 11:36 (five years ago) link

i have made a 2 disc pram mix that i can put online when life is normal again, but it compiles everything from their eps to lps

transcendental headache (Ross), Monday, 30 July 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

Oh please do ross

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Monday, 30 July 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link

will do jon

anyone care to elaborate on whether there is vocals on this at all

or is it all instrumental

sleepy sweet (Ross), Thursday, 2 August 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

jeff w says above there are vocals

akm, Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

what are the vocals like

eris (Ross), Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

screamo

akm, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

(dunno, just started listening to the album right now)

akm, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

yes there are vocals on the second track so far, and they sound like creepy little girl vocals so it's not miles away from what we had before.

akm, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

this is a good pram album

akm, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

This is very good. Their best since museum of imaginary animals. Functions perfectly as background music or focused listening - little bit mars attacks in vibe. The new singer sounds eerily like Rosie too. Also a little like she was grafted from wicker man.

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

Big love ❤️

yes, said (Ross), Sunday, 2 September 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Picked the new album up on a whim a couple of weeks ago, just listening now and it's great. Sixties jazz/spy movie vibes, sounds great. Will need to work backwards, I have 'The Moving Frontier' but don't recall enjoying it anywhere near as much.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link

just get the 'iron lung' ep and 'the stars are so big...' 'imaginary animals' is alright, too!

meaulnes, Thursday, 22 November 2018 03:49 (five years ago) link

And the meshes ep

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 22 November 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

Did it ever get mentioned that Rosie Cuckston stood as a Brexit Party candidate in the 2019 General Election?

https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/3327/election/397

...and lost badly (hurrah!)

She's in Reform UK now, so I wouldn't be surprised if she stood again in the upcoming GE.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Friday, 5 January 2024 13:36 (three months ago) link

there was definitely mention of her right-wing politics somewhere on her, no idea which thread

ufo, Friday, 5 January 2024 14:18 (three months ago) link

*here

ufo, Friday, 5 January 2024 14:19 (three months ago) link

years ago I happened to look at her Twitter to see if she'd made any comments about leaving Pram and was appalled by the political content, as somewhat chronicled in this thread

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 5 January 2024 15:04 (three months ago) link

oh now i see it was in this thread in 2017, so long ago

ufo, Friday, 5 January 2024 16:13 (three months ago) link

Yes, but actually standing as a parliamentary candidate for the Brexit Party (ffs) wasn't.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:35 (three months ago) link


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