Depression and what it's really like

nah you didn't carpet

going to start seeing this nurse/counsellor i've seen in the past, she has a heart of gold and meets me outside of work, which is amazing.

i drink about 4-6 beers a day, going to probably sober up until i'm out of this mess. going to accept the fact that I need help, I don't want to feel like this and my mind often lies to me to keep me in similar scenarios. I would like to get better at repairing the glitches in my mind - the bad programming - the mixed signals.

Go for it. I never had anything like that, so you're lucky.

Sorry for bitching and moaning here, I should probably just get this over with with more honor.

(no, I'm not going to kill myself)

Ross, I'm not here to preach the virtues of sobriety, because I'm still an absolute mess. But, quitting drinking and just not relying on it anymore was definitely a positive change for me.

right on, Austin. Yeah substance abuse compounds depression, and it can be easy to believe it's helping me function/survive. Hopefully seeing this through will just make things a bit easier overall

Think I've touched on this previously in here, but quitting drinking was really easy for me because I didn't like it anymore. Of all the cliches about getting sober, I think the one that was most true for me was that I couldn't stop until I actually wanted to. Even at some points, I knew my drink habit was totally out of control, but I continued to drink because I didn't have the intention of quitting. It wasn't until I was ready to quit that I actually could.

OK, I'm doing better now, and looks like I'll make it a little further.

It's funny ... the only people who've ever really helped me were black people, gay people, Jewish people, Muslims, teachers, and assorted misfit weirdos like myself. Yet people from my own class, race, and general background have been the first to stomp on my hands while I was holding for dear life, or at least enjoyed watching me fall to my death. Wonder what's up with that.

Fun armchair sociology. Anyway, the important thing is all's good ... for now.

Good to hear carpet :)

met this woman who lives in my building and she's super nice, and we had a good laugh walking home. Turns out she's a therapist though, which is almost too perfect

is there such a thing as omnicidal depression? i don't neg on myself like i used to and i think suicide is stupid, selfish, and pointless, but every day that passes, particularly when i'm feeling depressed, human extinction seems like a better idea.

I'm not sure if omnicidal depression ever had that particular label attached to it, but I think it is definitely 'a thing'. Congratulations! You are an phrase-maker of genuine talent, even if one or two people managed to get there independently ahead of you.

Does anyone have any advice on getting through the next day or so? I have my annual review at work tomorrow (I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT). I want to leave this job, but I still have enough self-control not to burn bridges...right now.

sometimes i go through stretches where i feel like that is every day for me. just gotta remember how many times i've felt like that and how i'm still alive somehow.

I apologize for my tomfoolery on here, I think I'm going through some kind of "great awakening" about all the nutso shit I posted on this thread. It's not fun, I'll tell ya that. And it's not funny, either, to the people who think it is. Cripes.

So yeah, I think I need to go "under construction" while I get this shit sorted out...

Annual review process makes me a total nervous wreck and ironically ruins my job performance for at least a month leading up to it

I need some advice. Had a great interview for a good job recently and the employer has asked me to submit 2-3 references. The first reference from the past was solid and he told me the employer sounded interested in me. But my last boss at my former job won't supply me a reference, he won't even respond to my e-mails. I'm trying not to get down because my last job was terrible for my mental health and it's sad that the former job is still causing problems in me returning to work.

Sorry to hear that Ross. I know that feeling; like saying to your previous job, "Haven't you done enough damage to my life?" Like, when you leave that unhealthy environment, that's supposed to be a good thing, right?

I know it sucks, but if you're not getting a response, there's probably a reason for that (albeit a bad, unfair one, most likely). Maybe just cut your losses and be up front with your current potential employer. Just tell them you couldn't get in touch with anybody at that old job.

c_k, no apologies. We all need to vent our vulnerabilities at some point. That's mostly what this topic is good for. It's only time to worry when you don't even see the therapeutic aspects of venting anymore.

As for me, I started back to work a week ago and it sucks. I'm at a different store with different upper management, but the same sort of attitude of "all rules don't apply to management except for when they actually do NOW YOU'RE IN TROUBLE LOL!" is still the same. It's been pretty nerve racking and upsetting, but oh well.

Wish you the best in your new job, Austin.

Good news - was able to use an older reference and I was up front and told the prospective employer that I was unable to reach my former boss (as you suggested).

The reference check is complete. I've been feeling more positive, even though life can be pretty bleak I want to live, gonna fight that ol' bastard depression!

I got the job. It's a good job in a big institution here (don't want to be too specific). Glad the unemployment is over

Congrats man! That's really great. That can be such a big lift.

congrats, ross

Thanks guys! Definitely good to see some way out of this

Way to go Ross!

Excellent news, Ross

Congrats, Ross. It's good to get of a crisis.

I need to find a new job myself, pronto. I'm working with a bunch of predatory, psychopathic creeps. One dude threatened to beat and murder me, in a really terrifying, chilling way, and he lured me into that by being super charming and friendly (yup... that's how it goes). My co-worker who witnessed it is still freaked out by it ... and I was the target of it!

All that stuff I posted above about being raised as a murder victim, that shit is real. I don't know how I'll ever escape from this fate. If I don't find a new job fast, I am done for. Not even murdered, but homeless, because these people are fucked up creeps who I'm pretty sure hired me to fuck with me, because that's pretty much the only life I've ever known.

It sucks. It sucks that this had to be my fate in life ... I was robbed of everything. I haven't had an enjoyable day in my life, and every day has been pure torture filled with life-threatening danger. And there's no end in sight. My fate would've been better if I had died a long time ago.

And there's no help out there, that I can afford, at least. I have no idea how the hell I'm even going to find a new job fast, because I've been freelancing and contracting for about a year and a half, and I left my last job because it was a similar deal, just big corporate vs. small business, so that bridge is burned.

I'm pretty much fucked here. I put up a good fight, but I think I'm done for now. I can just see my family now laughing their asses off at this. And people like my family. There are sick fucks out there who get off on stuff like this.

It's strange to reflect on how utterly devoid of value and worth my life has. That's one of the harder parts of this all, realizing how society really is just totally cool with me just being tortured and murdered.

Definitely gives you a different perspective on life when you face stuff like that. Whatever. I get gutted, I end up eating out of the garbage, I find a new job. It all seems pretty surreal at this point anyway.

What I find laughably tragic is how easy it is to help me out of this life-threatening situation I'm in, considering I'm a motivated and relatively rational and self-aware person. But our social system simply does not provide that help.

Our society (US) is built around greed, selfishness, comfort, and profit. The easy help that could save my life is simply not a feature of this country. What a farce.

If this guy doesn't murder me, I'm probably just going to kill myself anyway, because this really is a dead-end for me. If anyone wonders why I'm so angry about the conditions in America, it's because it's cost me my life, when it was so ridiculously easy to help me. And the only thing that could ever help me was other people.

Eh whatever, my only other option is to become a mean, psychopathic dickhead. I've got to survive in the jungle of this fucked up country 100% alone, and I'll probably always be 100% alone.

Key problem here is people fucking hate my guts for who I am. I'm not saying this to blow my dick all over the place, but when I was 4 years old I took this national aptitude test. After that, I had to see a state psychologist in this metal van on school grounds who did all these tests on me for a few months.

After that everyone made a huge deal out of me and I started skipping grades. That was my first death sentence. And whatever that was, it keeps following me throughout my life, pissing people off, doing "impossible" things from marketing to law and beyond.

Just making it this far in my life is something impossible, I didn't even write about the worst shit I lived through growing up, and Sarahel said what I did write was way out there in her experience. The real bad stuff would make you throw your fucking guts up.

When people find out "what" I am, people want me dead. Because people have stupid, fragile egos and it's all about competition, greed, and domination in our culture. I didn't ask to be this. I just want a normal life like everyone else. I act like an idiot, I'm a target. I act like my real self, I'm a target. Fuck this world.

OK. I'm done with my drunken rants. Carry on...

the rug doctor has logged on

Carpet - you're not done my friend. Fuck Anyone who is trying to mess with you. You're good, neglect the deception voices that tell you you need to compete with others. Fuck Em whole heartedly. You're not an idiot, drop
That shit because it's not serving you. You're a good person. Ignore anything that tells you otherwise

I love you and I will fight for your life my friend

Thanks for the good words, Ross. There are good people out there who have cared about me, thanks for reminding me of that. I've just chosen to surround myself by god awful people, because that's what I grew up with.

Right now, today, immediately, I need to learn how to avoid danger, and get myself out of it, because I'm neck-deep in it currently. I have to somehow make NOW a turning point in my life.

Am changing medication, wish me luck

Upping the dose of my new one today. Good luck to all medsurfers itt

hope you're all well. i'm sad to say that i may have to stop talking to one of my best friends. I haven't been well lately and i'm just about to return to work, but he criticizes the way i live day in and day out. I already feel like a burden to him and everyone else, not sure why he has to make me feel bad for my struggles. I've seen counsellors etc. but i'm getting anxiety from the cruel stuff he's saying. sucks when it's your best friend.

Has he ever experienced mental illness himself? A lot of people just don't get, and refuse to try.

Things have evened out for me - no more massive mood swings. I tried going back on a small dose of Zoloft at my dr's urging but it felt terrible so I only took one dose. Now I just feel my normal level of misery and angst and resignation, i.e. No worse than while medicated.

Ross and Just1n3, my condolences, that's awful.

Am currently having SWOOSHING NOISES IN MY HEAD every time I move my eyeballs, plus exciting WAVES OF NUMBNESS IN MY FACE so really enjoying these new pills let me tell you

Dude :( that's fucking rough. Any idea how long the side effects will last?

up to 2 weeks, apparently

i feel like a functioning alcoholic of late. i don't know what it's like to be a functioning alcoholic, but my despair just seems like, i don't know, an indulgence, played out in endless lost weekends. anxiously anticipating the results of the stage iii ketamine trials. it's stupid to put one's hopes on drugs but i've got nothing else left to hope for, and i've taken all the other drugs.

i guess i can get by like this as long as i need to, though.

yea just1n3 - he has had some depression.

best wiehses to just1n3 and James at this time

rush - yeah there's a big part of addiction that's functional - a good book on the subject is "In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts" by Dr. Gabor Mate. I'm a functional addict, and it definitely does get you by while robbing a whole lot from your existence IMO. peace to ya man

do other people really have that much more, is what I’m saying

That's a good point. At my job I was bugged out I was going to get fired ... I'm actually getting new assignments now. The person who was fired was my co-worker.

She's 30 and her entire life she's been taken care of by her parents. Free to pursue all her dreams and whims. She has no idea how to work hard, and despite living in NYC for a decade, seems unaware of how the real world works. It's the hunger that teaches us the way of the world.

So yeah. It's funny to think even in my own crap life, I've found value, and those who've had the opposite lives, have found deficiencies.

Xps I'd be very interested to hear how the ketamine works for you. I've been looking into it - I'm with Kaiser and they're running trials but you have to have tried at least 4 different ADs from 3 different classes to get into the program. My husband's psych offers ketamine treatment but it's like $650 a pop, minimum of 6 sessions plus boosters so *shrugs*

"In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts" by Dr. Gabor Mate.

This looks very interesting, but I'm afraid it could be a very... depressing read? :-/

I've bookmarked it as something I shd probably read but wd prefer to read something less close to home

i will definitely check out that hungry ghosts book. everything i read or listen to is depressing to me to the point of despair these days, so i'm not too concerned about it being a downer.

started it already - it's very well written

I'll take your word for it (same fear of too close for comfort)

LBI - will say regarding the book that reading about addiction sometimes makes me prone to substance abuse but I think it can also help explain those impulses. Though it's not an easy read

most things make me tempted to get drunk one way or another so

I only get drunk in company tho