Steely Dan: "Steely Dan's name has been popping up as a hip musical crush. Remember, this glossy bop-pop was the indifferent aristocracy to punk rock's stone-throwing in the late 70's. People fought

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Forest Hills represent !

calstars, Monday, 4 September 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link

Noooo... ;_:

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 September 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link

man, this is a bummer. RIP. this band has been one of my great musical discoveries of the past few years, just digging in and hearing more and more with each spin. incredible music, incredible songwriter, incredible player. seriously kicking myself for not seeing them the last time they came through town.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 4 September 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

His production on China Crisis' Flaunt the Imperfection is OTM and a huge part of the reason why it's their best album.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

^^^

doug watson, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

yeah no argument there

niels, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

Got my tickets to see SD next month in the mail today.... hard to imagine the mood at these shows

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

http://www.walterbecker.com/img/dad.jpg

Really love this pic from his daughter's tribute:
http://www.walterbecker.com/daughters.html

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

I'll have to check out some of Becker's productions. His solos on SD records were marvelous - snarling and mordant with sweetness and pathos peeking through at unexpected moments, just like in SD's lyrics. You could see why he took a lot of solos on their records even when Fagen and Becker had the best studio players in the world at their beck and call - Becker's guitar put the duo's sensibility across as succinctly as Fagen's whine. But don't discount his bass lines either - "Deacon Blues," to my ears, is probably his single greatest performance. Or his lacerating wit - it's my understanding that a lot of the lyrics were his, and despite many obits' puzzling assertion that he played the background in their public persona it's also my impression that he was a fair bit more responsible than Fagen in crafting that persona - certainly in the last two decades he took the lead in terms of their online presence, liner notes, pr and public correspondence, etc.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

much respect, brother walter

I know you're out there
w/rage in your eyes and
your megaphones
saying all is forgiven
mad dog surrender pic.twitter.com/bDtwWBalFl

— mike watt (@wattfrompedro) September 5, 2017

you want the song, huh? of course SO much about music! https://t.co/P5axyyq69H luckless pedestrian - his he w/who or whatever... or are you? pic.twitter.com/UocKZMpHiN

— mike watt (@wattfrompedro) September 5, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

. But don't discount his bass lines either - "Deacon Blues," to my ears, is probably his single greatest performance. Or his lacerating wit - it's my understanding that a lot of the lyrics were his, and despite many obits' puzzling assertion that he played the background in their public persona it's also my impression that he was a fair bit more responsible than Fagen in crafting that persona - certainly in the last two decades he took the lead in terms of their online presence, liner notes, pr and public correspondence, etc.

The biggest clue is Fagen's solo work. Nary a trace of sardonicism in The Nightfly, Kamakiriad and the rest, replaced with a perfectly modulated irony.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

I had no idea this made it back online:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=dimyNC1BytY

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

Goddamit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dimyNC1BytY

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK7QO9Hx3xM

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

haha! yeah I love that little doc/bonus thing. the women in it are great. Walter is hilarious

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

holy shit

Strangest thing I learned in wake of Walter Becker’s death: Phil Hartman (of SNL/Simpsons) designed cover for ‘Aja'https://t.co/TxlTd3ZxGq pic.twitter.com/aF4joOgIFY

— James Fallows (@JamesFallows) September 6, 2017

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

iirc Hartman did design some album covers but the Aja attribution is an internet mistake that spread widely

President Keyes, Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:44 (six years ago) link

Seems like most of his work was for Poco and America, poor guy.

https://www.discogs.com/artist/914811-Phil-Hartman?filter_anv=0&subtype=Visual&type=Credits

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link

RIP

this is pretty sad. i am only just now discovering the music of Steely Dan. i started listening to The Royal Scam, Katy Lied, Aja, Countdown to Ecstasy, this year. i really love the music. the groves are all very tight, it is very locked in. it is very evocative Night Time Driving music to me. thank you for the music

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 September 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

"Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the car."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2017 03:11 (six years ago) link

The covers for Poco’s Legend and Steely Dan’s Aja look like they could be classic album covers, in a world where the albums they were associated with were a lot better.

Regardless of the misattribution, what the fuck kind of Aja opinion is this?

how's life, Thursday, 7 September 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

I prefer every Dan album that came before Aja to Aja but yeah, that's a silly thing to say given that Aja is generally seen as not only Steely Dan's finest work but also a canonical classic.

Gaucho on the other hand...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

rules and is amazing, I know

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

let's not do this again

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

...has its fans but was perfectly judged at the time and has become grossly overrated since.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

I've had 'Peg' stuck in my head all day.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

Michael McDonald on Walter Becker:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7957597/michael-mcdonald-walter-becker-steely-dan-interview

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 September 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

That was nice. Gave new dimensions to the Becker i knew of.

President Keyes, Friday, 8 September 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link

Very nice. Thanks Ned

calstars, Friday, 8 September 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link

yeah, that was really honest and heartfelt

intheblanks, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:15 (six years ago) link

many xps @nomar, i also grew up listening to the dan in northern IL (rockford and freeport) during the 90s, lots of fond memories. honestly, i'm surprised by how sad I've felt about Becker's death.

intheblanks, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:17 (six years ago) link

Such a humble and life-affirming tribute from McDonald

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 September 2017 09:15 (six years ago) link

Are there any good books on the Dan?

There's this Barney Hoskyns edited Dan anthology coming out soon that looks pretty good - contributors include Charles Shaar Murray, Robert Palmer, Ian MacDonald, Bud Scoppa, Penny Valentine, Fred Schruers, Sylvie Simmons and Michael Watts:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1472127552

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Friday, 8 September 2017 10:18 (six years ago) link

Ooh yes, that would hit the spot, I guess - love a lot of those writers' work

I was at a deep house night in L.A. around 1999-2000 and Doc Martin dropped a house remix of "New Frontier". It was revelatory for me at the time. I went from "fuck that shit" to "grooooovy mannnn".

yesca, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Guitars and Gear Belonging to Steely Dan’s Walter Becker to Be Sold at Auction

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/guitars-and-gear-belonging-to-steely-dans-walter-becker-to-be-sold-at-auction

nickn, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

And the circle closes - today on Pitchfork, retrospective (favorable) reviews of Can't Buy a Thrill, Katy Lied, The Royal Scam, Aja and Gaucho.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link

Yup, I immediately thought of this thread when I saw that pitchfork was giving them the deluxe 5-album retrospective treatment.
It's official.

enochroot, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

all they had to do is LISTEN to Steely Dan for God's sake

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

So does this mean Steely Dan has regained their crown as hipster scumbags or is Pitchfork now officially the music site for yacht-rock granddads?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

Either you die a Dan hater, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Dan fan

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

piece on the royal scam is good as hell

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

Piece on Aja is great, too, if only for the link to a Rolling Stone interview by Cameron Crowe from around the time of its release. And for once they got the rating right too. 10.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

Sorry but Steely Dan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the vast majority of so-called punk rock music.
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:00 PM (fifteen years ago)

yep
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:01 PM (fifteen years ago)

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

The Royal Scam prompted the most inspired writing, and for once the historical context serves a review.

I'm jealous I wasn't asked to write about Gaucho, though.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

PK otm

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

For anyone with actual knowledge of how records are made, this line from the Gaucho review is...not as damning as it's meant to sound:

During a visit to the studio in summer 1980, Palmer watched [Fagen] sit with Katz and Nichols, “inhaling a cigarette in spasmodic gulps” while endlessly retooling the fade-out at the end of “Babylon Sisters,” eventually spending four hours fiddling with fifty seconds of music.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

I was asked to contribute to this, apparently because I haven't made it a clear enough how much I fucking despise steely dan and their entire ripple effect throughout the music world/constructions of what music is considered good, tasteful, or worth thinking about

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

I would love to have read your taking down one of their albums

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link


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