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So sad right now, man
A transformative influence
SD forever linked for me with the biggest sustained creative jag I ever had, mid-20s, drawing all day every day, citizen steely dan box never not on the player
67? Fuck.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

like for a lot of y'all, the dan were truly formative for me

goddamn

r.i.p.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

A giant. Rest in peace.

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

i listened to Aja quite a lot in my teens.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

Well along in the 21st hour
When the whole damn grid goes down
This is how a party gets started
In for a penny — in for a pound
All at once the whole joint goes quiet
And all the wavy lines go straight
One fool among fools is wondering
What happens if I die too late?
Get back with your dimestore nihilism
Big daddy's on a glory run
Gettin' down on the cellular level
Just in case I got to call someone

Darkling down — on a darkling plain
In the dim dank night of the pissin'-down rain
Darkling down — on the balls of his ass
While he prays and waits for the storm to pass

Lemme show you where the good thing happens
It's a barbershop in Inglewood
Too bad we won't get past the bouncer
Sadly I've been banned for good
There's a coffee shop right ‘round the corner
The proprietor knows my name
Cup of joe and a Vicks inhaler
Now you're ready for the big boy game
Steady son come seven come eleven
If either one of us can count that high
Muscatel if the deal gets dicey
Milk and honey in the by and by

Darkling down — it's a damn disgrace
Going round and round in a very small place
Darkling down — with a hole in his soul
That he can't explain and he can't control

For the fun or for the money
For the fuck of it or just because
Listen friend this is no damn picnic
But let's imagine for a minute that it was
Who will feast on this buzzard's banquet?
Who will render my heroic bust?
Who will choke on my lachrymose musings?
Who will eat my zero dust?
Who will wear this puke-streaked tunic?
Who shall gorge on this cup of spleen?
Who will sing about the good bad and ugly?
And all and everything in between?

Darkling down — this is god's good man
On his hands and knees livin' god's good plan
Darkling down — and we don't know still
When he'll come around if he ever will
Darkling down — on a zero-G dive
And we just can't say will the fool survive
Darkling down — in a seven-G turn
Glowing like a coal in the afterburn

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

These were mostly written by Walter, right?

To: Jann Wenner, Ahmet Ertegun, and The Commissioners
Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame
Date: 6/97

From: Donald Fagen and Walter Becker
DBA Steely Dan, founded c. 1971

Gentlemen:

It has come to our attention that we are in possession of the largest privately owned collection of historically significant 3M digital multitrack tape recorders in the United States. As you are no doubt aware, machines of this type were the very first digital multitrack recorders available to the recording artist, and consequentially were used to make the earliest digital pop recordings. These particular machines (until recently in use at our private studios in New York City and the state of Hawaii) were used in the making of many historic albums, including the celebrated "Bop Til You Drop" by Ry Cooder, and Donald's "The Nightfly". It has recently been determined that the historical value of these fine recording instruments is so great as to eclipse their value in an actual workaday studio setting. It is our great pleasure to offer these recorders to the Rock'N'Roll Hall of Fame Museum, so that they may be viewed and enjoyed by all and so that they may be preserved for posterity. We are asking for no compensation in return for this donation, except the usual tax deductions which are outlined in "schedule A", enclosed.

Naturally the well-known and loved-by -millions Steely Dan albums for which we are famous were not recorded on these machines - after all, our career began in 1971, almost a decade before the advent of this digital technology, 1971 being the year we released "Can't Buy A Thrill", which included the beloved hits "Do It Again" and "Reelin' In The Years".

Incidentally it has been mentioned to us that we would be eligible for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next year.

Back to the 3M machines - we have at least three multitracks and a 4 track - it would be hard to put a dollar value on these rare old beauties for the purposes of determining the appropriate tax deduction. No doubt there are experts at the Museum who could help us to ascertain just how valuable these machines truly are at this time. Written confirmation of our suspicion that the current value of these machines is in excess of $800,000 (they would be worth a lot more than that if they worked or even could be powered up) would be of great value to us. In fact, we would be willing to donate as much as $1500.00 to the Museum in exchange for such a document.

Incidentally, the "big green monsters" would make a splendid centerpiece for an exhibit celebrating the "Digital Age" or the "Age of Dan" or anything like that.

Furthermore, we are aware of the furor over this year's televised inductions into the Hall. In order to avoid any confusion in the event of our timely induction next year, we would like to clarify the following points:
1. It is our position that inductees who perform at a televised event must be adequately recompensed for their services. Anything short of that is un-American and contrary to the spirit of rock'n'roll. To wit, we would extend the traditional Hand-Across-The-Flyovers to an A.F.of M. brother who has taken a similar stand in this matter, Mr. Neil Young, and would also mention in passing that our fee for such an event would be in the middle six figure range, if that's okay.

2. We were wondering: is it necessarily the case that our entire original band would be inducted into the Hall, or would it be possible for just the two of us to receive this singular honor? After all, those other guys have been outee for a long time. In any case, it would not be possible to assemble the entire original ensemble - some members are definitively and permanently not available. If an entire band is needed, what about our current band? We are just getting ready to go in the studio with these guys and they play just great and look great too. As of about a month ago they were working with the fine Italian "blue-eyed"soul singer Pino Danielli. You're going to love them, we're absolutely sure.

3. If the original bandmembers are absolutely necessary, perhaps some of them could receive their statues or belts or whatever it is they get, off-camera, backstage, at some other place and/or time? What do you think about something like that?

4. You may be aware that, like Joni Mitchell, we have mounted an exhaustive search for any long lost female love-children of ours who may be out there somewhere, working away in anonymity at some modelling agency or as prospective starlets or whatever. If either one of us strikes paydirt in this department, you can bet that we will not be available for the induction ceremony, any more than Joni was. In this case, points 1-3 mentioned above would be non-operative.

5. We are taking the liberty of enclosing a check from our corporate account in the amount of $10,000.00 made out to Jann Wenner in this mailing so as to get the ball rolling sooner rather than later. We hope that will be okay. And by the way, Jann, that crate of homemade honey mustard is already on its way to you via FedEx, overnight priority 1, directly from our tables to your'n, so to speak. Enjoy!

Thank you, Commissioners and fellow music lovers!

Donald Fagen & Walter Becker
Founding members, Steely Dan

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

I saw this thread bumped and the number of new answers and thought it was just ILM being ILM. This news fucking sucks.

RIP.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

Just :(

I'm gutted, Steely Dan have been a favourite for me since my early twenties. RIP.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

Steely Dan means a lot to me. On a personal level, my friends and I used to hang at each other's places in rural IL or in Rockford and jam all these classic rock LPs and we jammed Steely Dan more than anyone else. And everyone we knew loved them. And we weren't teenagers in the '70s, we were '90s kids and we mostly heard them via parents (not mine; they were folkies) and classic rock radio or popping up more than you'd imagine at the local pool hall. We all had different favorite albums. Mine was always Countdown to Ecstasy. My one friend, his favorite song was always Sign In Stranger. It was about the way Fagen sang that title in such a strangled way, and the imagery of "Pepe has a scar from ear to ear." My other friend, his band covered a couple songs from Can't Buy a Thrill. When I moved to L.A. there were a bunch of well wishes from everyone that invariably included hopes for good times inspired by the songs from Side 1 of Gaucho. They started off as one of the best NYC bands and then wound up the best and for their milieu the most *accurate* L.A. band, which is no small feat. But they kind of take me back home, lots of wood paneled rec rooms that smell like weed and air freshener, parents out partying somewhere, us winding down a night listening to Donald and Walter, among others (but like I said, no others as much as them.)

nomar, Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

A dollop of Walter Becker genius. Tap asked him to write a little something technical re BREAK LIKE THE WIND & he did. pic.twitter.com/DX8XPz4Oo3

— Michael McKean (@MJMcKean) September 3, 2017

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 September 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

god that's so good

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 September 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

Hearing SD everywhere I go today: coffee shop, movie theater, grocery store, every rock station on the dial...

flappy bird, Sunday, 3 September 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

RIP

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 3 September 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

Forest Hills represent !

calstars, Monday, 4 September 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link

Noooo... ;_:

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 September 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link

man, this is a bummer. RIP. this band has been one of my great musical discoveries of the past few years, just digging in and hearing more and more with each spin. incredible music, incredible songwriter, incredible player. seriously kicking myself for not seeing them the last time they came through town.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 4 September 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

His production on China Crisis' Flaunt the Imperfection is OTM and a huge part of the reason why it's their best album.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

^^^

doug watson, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

yeah no argument there

niels, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

Got my tickets to see SD next month in the mail today.... hard to imagine the mood at these shows

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

http://www.walterbecker.com/img/dad.jpg

Really love this pic from his daughter's tribute:
http://www.walterbecker.com/daughters.html

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

I'll have to check out some of Becker's productions. His solos on SD records were marvelous - snarling and mordant with sweetness and pathos peeking through at unexpected moments, just like in SD's lyrics. You could see why he took a lot of solos on their records even when Fagen and Becker had the best studio players in the world at their beck and call - Becker's guitar put the duo's sensibility across as succinctly as Fagen's whine. But don't discount his bass lines either - "Deacon Blues," to my ears, is probably his single greatest performance. Or his lacerating wit - it's my understanding that a lot of the lyrics were his, and despite many obits' puzzling assertion that he played the background in their public persona it's also my impression that he was a fair bit more responsible than Fagen in crafting that persona - certainly in the last two decades he took the lead in terms of their online presence, liner notes, pr and public correspondence, etc.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

much respect, brother walter

I know you're out there
w/rage in your eyes and
your megaphones
saying all is forgiven
mad dog surrender pic.twitter.com/bDtwWBalFl

— mike watt (@wattfrompedro) September 5, 2017

you want the song, huh? of course SO much about music! https://t.co/P5axyyq69H luckless pedestrian - his he w/who or whatever... or are you? pic.twitter.com/UocKZMpHiN

— mike watt (@wattfrompedro) September 5, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

. But don't discount his bass lines either - "Deacon Blues," to my ears, is probably his single greatest performance. Or his lacerating wit - it's my understanding that a lot of the lyrics were his, and despite many obits' puzzling assertion that he played the background in their public persona it's also my impression that he was a fair bit more responsible than Fagen in crafting that persona - certainly in the last two decades he took the lead in terms of their online presence, liner notes, pr and public correspondence, etc.

The biggest clue is Fagen's solo work. Nary a trace of sardonicism in The Nightfly, Kamakiriad and the rest, replaced with a perfectly modulated irony.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

I had no idea this made it back online:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=dimyNC1BytY

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

Goddamit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dimyNC1BytY

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK7QO9Hx3xM

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

haha! yeah I love that little doc/bonus thing. the women in it are great. Walter is hilarious

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

holy shit

Strangest thing I learned in wake of Walter Becker’s death: Phil Hartman (of SNL/Simpsons) designed cover for ‘Aja'https://t.co/TxlTd3ZxGq pic.twitter.com/aF4joOgIFY

— James Fallows (@JamesFallows) September 6, 2017

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

iirc Hartman did design some album covers but the Aja attribution is an internet mistake that spread widely

President Keyes, Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:44 (six years ago) link

Seems like most of his work was for Poco and America, poor guy.

https://www.discogs.com/artist/914811-Phil-Hartman?filter_anv=0&subtype=Visual&type=Credits

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link

RIP

this is pretty sad. i am only just now discovering the music of Steely Dan. i started listening to The Royal Scam, Katy Lied, Aja, Countdown to Ecstasy, this year. i really love the music. the groves are all very tight, it is very locked in. it is very evocative Night Time Driving music to me. thank you for the music

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 September 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

"Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the car."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2017 03:11 (six years ago) link

The covers for Poco’s Legend and Steely Dan’s Aja look like they could be classic album covers, in a world where the albums they were associated with were a lot better.

Regardless of the misattribution, what the fuck kind of Aja opinion is this?

how's life, Thursday, 7 September 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

I prefer every Dan album that came before Aja to Aja but yeah, that's a silly thing to say given that Aja is generally seen as not only Steely Dan's finest work but also a canonical classic.

Gaucho on the other hand...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

rules and is amazing, I know

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

let's not do this again

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

...has its fans but was perfectly judged at the time and has become grossly overrated since.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

I've had 'Peg' stuck in my head all day.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

Michael McDonald on Walter Becker:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7957597/michael-mcdonald-walter-becker-steely-dan-interview

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 September 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

That was nice. Gave new dimensions to the Becker i knew of.

President Keyes, Friday, 8 September 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link

Very nice. Thanks Ned

calstars, Friday, 8 September 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link

yeah, that was really honest and heartfelt

intheblanks, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:15 (six years ago) link

many xps @nomar, i also grew up listening to the dan in northern IL (rockford and freeport) during the 90s, lots of fond memories. honestly, i'm surprised by how sad I've felt about Becker's death.

intheblanks, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:17 (six years ago) link

Such a humble and life-affirming tribute from McDonald

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 September 2017 09:15 (six years ago) link

Are there any good books on the Dan?

There's this Barney Hoskyns edited Dan anthology coming out soon that looks pretty good - contributors include Charles Shaar Murray, Robert Palmer, Ian MacDonald, Bud Scoppa, Penny Valentine, Fred Schruers, Sylvie Simmons and Michael Watts:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1472127552

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Friday, 8 September 2017 10:18 (six years ago) link

Ooh yes, that would hit the spot, I guess - love a lot of those writers' work

I was at a deep house night in L.A. around 1999-2000 and Doc Martin dropped a house remix of "New Frontier". It was revelatory for me at the time. I went from "fuck that shit" to "grooooovy mannnn".

yesca, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link


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