Classic or Dud: U2

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like with the pre-release of their Invisible track, i aint taking this on face value.

mark e, Thursday, 31 August 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

i loved Invisible and had high hopes for a lot more of the same kind of groove (i.e. the minimal electro drums), and we all know how that turned out.

mark e, Thursday, 31 August 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

Reports that edge in particular is v concerned about opinions itt

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 August 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

Oh god is my iPhone safe?

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link

The Edge? More like the Dull!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

"You're The Best Thing About Me"

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

1. Zooropa
2. Achtung Baby
3. Boy
4. The Joshua Tree
5. The Unforgettable Fire
6. War
7. Pop
8. All That You Can't Leave Behind
9. October
10. Rattle and Hum

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

11. the rest

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

pretty much OTM. I might have Unforgettable Fire ahead of Joshua Tree but why quibble?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 December 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

I listened to Boy a couple of nights ago and it blew me away how punchy and fresh it sounded.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

glad to see POP in the list.
for all the crap that is thrown at the album (incl. from the band themselves), i still really enjoy it.

mark e, Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link

I think that Pop had the potential to be one of their best but they cocked it up during the recording... I really like 'Discotheque', 'Do You Feel Loved', 'MOFO', 'The Last Night on Earth', 'Gone', 'Staring at the Sun' and 'Please' and weirdly for all of Pop's flaws I don't like the attempts at remixing the tracks anywhere near as much as the ones that made the LP.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

as you say, something was not right. it sounds muddy.
there is no clarity in the mix at all for Discoteque.
i wouod suggest that a good straightforward remaster/remix to seperate the instrumentation would reawaken several of the tracks, but i think the band have disowned this album, so we just have to put up with it as it is.

mark e, Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

I think they've gone off the LP, which is a shame because there's a lot of great material on it and it would have been amazing if the production had been more OTM - maybe they would have carried on in this direction. A lot of potential new directions opened up on Achtung Baby, Zooropa and the Passengers LP, and it would have been great if they'd explored more.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

They seem to regard the tour as being one of their best, at least presentation wise.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

A lot of potential new directions opened up on Achtung Baby, Zooropa and the Passengers LP, and it would have been great if they'd explored more.

as i am sure i have said elsewhere, i came onboard at AB and so have always preferred this era.
at times NLOTH revisited the same kind of groove for me hence why i rate that one highly.
still working on the new album.
always takes a few weeks before i either get fed up, or i succumb.
at the moment, it's looking like the latter.

mark e, Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link

Fucking hell, Bono.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42502453

U2 frontman Bono has criticised what he says is a lack of rock and roll in today's music.

In an interview with Rolling Stone, the singer said: "I think music has gotten very girly.

"And there are some good things about that, but hip-hop is the only place for young male anger at the moment - and that's not good."

He added that one of his sons, Elijah, "believes that a rock and roll revolution is around the corner".

And the singer said he agreed with his son that the genre "will return".

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link

stfu bono

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

"When I was 16, I had a lot of anger in me. You need to find a place for it and for guitars, whether it is with a drum machine - I don't care.

looool. I love that that's where he draws the line.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

"Lady GaGa stole this music...we're stealin' it back!"

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

Bono is a knob but not quite sure why this is so offensive - the word 'girly' or a misunderstanding over his comment about hip-hip?

PaulTMA, Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link

yes "girly" as a pejorative, because there are a lot of women making great rock music right now and the idea that male anger is somehow underrepresented in rock music or the world in 2017 is fucking ridiculous

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

The drummer from Shed Seven isn't in agreement

Yes @U2's Bono is a top cunt, but fuck me, if you can't use the word "Girly" anymore to describe something as a bit sissy. In the name of.....

— Alan Leach Shed7 (@AlanShed) December 28, 2017

PaulTMA, Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

BONO PLEASE JUST GO THE FUCK AWAY

calstars, Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

The most generous interpretation of the hip-hop line: "that's not good" meaning that hip-hop shouldn't be the only genre through which young men express anger. But I'm not feeling generous, and fuck Bono for "girly."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

Is this the same Shed Seven drummer who said girls couldn't be drummers in the 90s?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

It's also remarkably immature to be in your fifties and still be obsessed with expressing anger

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

The same Alan Leach who declared in one of the weeklies that ALL female drummers were inferior to him

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

Xp lol sorry

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

Boner, Stink, please just go retire together in Tampa

calstars, Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

I think it's the same Alan Leach who claimed the band name stemmed from his losing his virginity to his own dad in a shed, aged 7

PaulTMA, Thursday, 28 December 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

Good band, lots of good songs

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 29 December 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link

Shed Seven is terrible

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 December 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link

Better than U2 though, and I've never heard them.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Friday, 29 December 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link

I don't know what's so special about electrified guitars. If you're a male with male rage, playing drums is a much better outlet anyway.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 29 December 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

buddy rich was pretty angry

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 December 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

of all the ways to describe the edges guitar, angry sounding is not one of them.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

"Who moved the feckin' stage?"

http://tonedeaf.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/theedge.jpg

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Friday, 29 December 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Va9naBeBL.jpg

omar little, Sunday, 31 December 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

Dud

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Sunday, 31 December 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link

what are the odds of the next U2 album being the best of their entire career

Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 December 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link

In the “sure, it’s a giant steaming turd, but look - there’s a flower growing out of one of the coils!” sense, sure, it could happen.

(What I’m saying here is that U2 are a bad band and all their albums are bad, but sure, the next one could be 1% less terrible than all its predecessors, why not?)

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 31 December 2017 03:58 (six years ago) link

More like Ew2

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Sunday, 31 December 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link

U2 were a great band and let's face it, you're all massively jealous of Bono and the band in general.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

But y'know, don't quit looking for reasons to get offended guys.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

There are 3 or 4 U2 albums I regularly play and love in their entirety, so I can't dismiss the group. Likewise, I think Bono can come off a real tool but I also think he can be smart and funny. Even so, I don't expect this band to record anything I want to listen to ever again. I blame the Edge, who I am convinced decades down the line still doesn't know how to play guitar, which is pretty limiting for a guitarist. But as I've always said, if I formed a U2 cover band, the Edge would still be my first pick.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

well i mean Edge can definitely play guitar but it's weird to me how they have consistently kicked off their recent string of albums with singles where they're trying to use him as a blunt, choppy instrument instead of the more recognizable sound of peak U2. i think within that sound he can do a lot, like I'd include The Fly or Breathe or Moment of Surrender in that. but not so much Get On Your Boots, American Soul, The Blackout, The Miracle of Joey Ramone, etc...

omar little, Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

I don't think he can play guitar, though he can do cool things with guitars. And he does those things well, so he doesn't need to play guitar well. That It Might Get Loud doc settled it for me.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

of all the tired zings about U2, edge can’t play is the most tired. one of the most influential players of his generation (hi dere worship players) but yeah, sure, he can’t play. good thing there are a million bar band guys who can hold down the blooz wank while we wait for guitar jesus.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 31 December 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link


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