Rickie Lee Jones, c/d?

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even thinking of 'We Belong Together' makes me emotional.

campreverb, Thursday, 31 August 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link

So this thread got me to pull out Pirates which I haven't heard in probably 25 years. I was blown away. It's such a miraculously lyrical mix of r&b, jazz, and traces of Springsteen/Van/Steely Dan/Joni. Love the intra-song dynamics. Pro tip, lyric sheet is essential.

that's not my post, Saturday, 2 September 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

I said fuck it and downloaded a copy of Pirates.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 September 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

So this thread got me to pull out Pirates which I haven't heard in probably 25 years. I was blown away. It's such a miraculously lyrical mix of r&b, jazz, and traces of Springsteen/Van/Steely Dan/Joni. Love the intra-song dynamics. Pro tip, lyric sheet is essential.

otm and similar revelations await on at least her next two albums imo

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 2 September 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

even thinking of 'We Belong Together' makes me emotional.

also mega-OTM. if I go so far as to think "a promise that weeee belong to-gether" in my head I'm a wreck. what a tune

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 2 September 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link

That's the only track I owned for years and it killed me.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 September 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

hearing her interview that led to the sample in Little Fluffy Clouds brings me joy

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 2 September 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

First 2 are total classic, probably some sexism at play in the inevitable comparisons to Waits.
Magazine is a bit of a mess, but still has the gut-wrenching line on Gravity "I try to imagine another planet, another sun/
Where I don't look like me/And everything I do matters".

I'm a huge fan of Flying Cowboys, and The Sermon on Exposition Blvd works much better than expected.

campreverb, Saturday, 2 September 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link

Try to imagine another planet, another sun
Where I don't look like me
And everything I do matters

"Gravity" kills me, and this will be on my tombstone.

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link

I keep coming back to start of Living It Up. It's a perfect brief characterization, wistful and kinda funny:

Eddie's got one crazy eye
That turns him into a cartoon
When a pretty girl comes by
And there's nothin' here to do anymore
He sits on the stoop all day
Like there's something he's waiting for

Of course the rest of the song is killer.

that's not my post, Sunday, 3 September 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

holy shit just heard we belong together for the first time...amazing

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 3 September 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link

Alfred what did you think of the rest of the album?

Best album of all time is the correct answer FYI.

Tim F, Sunday, 3 September 2017 02:11 (six years ago) link

love the way she writes

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 4 September 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link

Calling shenanigans on that Orb reference - it looks inserted rather than what she said/wrote..

Mark G, Monday, 4 September 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

pirates is absolutely the best album ever made. i think i’m gonna make a poll

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

the first time i heard “we belong together” a few months ago i thought “this is sounds exactly like how i feel inside all the time”

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

it is utterly stunning

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

but "we belong together" will run the table on that poll like Minnesota Fats

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

lol yeah that’s what i was figuring

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

nb Fats loses in the end so who knows, Living it Up & Woody n Dutch might have a chance. iirc when the album was new my local critic was all "if there was more Woody n Dutch on this record it would be a better followup to the resplendent debut." fuck that guy forever btw

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

pirates is absolutely the best album ever made

◎ yes

mark s, Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

^^^all polls shd take this form (including the same exact working)

mark s, Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

s/b wording

mark s, Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

concur

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 25 November 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

massively underrated album.

campreverb, Sunday, 26 November 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

massively underrated album
artist.

campreverb, Sunday, 26 November 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

love this record

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 November 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

autobiography out April 2019

http://groveatlantic.com/book/rickie-lee/

beamish13, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

well holy shit this was amazing to stumble on on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_172cffdDJU

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:45 (five years ago) link

!!!!!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link

!

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:29 (five years ago) link

That's glorious.

I've totally missed (avoided?) Rickie for some reason and holy shit has the last few days been a revelation - to the point I've been afflicted with Nelson fever and will now declare Pirates the best album in the world.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

IMDB trivia for "The Pope of Greenwich Village" - Rickie Lee Jones had originally written and recorded an instrumental demo as a theme, but it was rejected in favor of Frank Sinatra's "Summer Wind." The demo, which retained the title "Theme for the Pope" (because of the movie), wound up on her 1984 album The Magazine.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

interesting -- I've been listening to The Magazine a lot lately but I wasn't aware of that. here's what Sal Bernardi says about it:

SB: I never wrote lyrics in French, but a few different people wrote French lyrics for a melody that I wrote ‘Theme for the Pope’ - a strange travel for that melody. Initially, a friend in Quebec wrote some lyrics and called it ‘Danse la Reve des Cleo’.

Several years later, there was a film called ‘The Pope of Greenwich Village’. I think the film people were seeking soundtrack music. Rickie and I had reworked the song a bit and made a demo without lyrics. It wasn’t used in the film, but Rickie released it on ‘The Magazine’, calling it by the working title for the film “Theme for the Pope”. For the European release of the album, a writer here in Paris wrote French lyrics and titled it ‘Marrant de Duece’, I think.

http://www.pennyblackmusic.co.uk/MagSitePages/Article/7823/Sal-Bernardi-Interview

I prefer the version with French lyrics that appears on the LP, and I'm not sure why they included a different version on the CD release. I assume the CD version is the original demo and the LP version is the demo with overdubbed vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGrEg9SdN3M

panburger partner (unregistered), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link

oops, that's the CD version but this is the LP version I meant to post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqp3z0sX5UI

panburger partner (unregistered), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 03:09 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

excellent song selection for an ideal concert:
https://www.franceinter.fr/emissions/very-good-trip/very-good-trip-11-septembre-2019

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 09:14 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

I really don't know much about Rickie Lee Jones, but I was listening to the radio just now and came across an interview with someone I didn't know. All I knew is that it was a musician, and that when they played bits of her music it wasn't that old, like '70s-now, but the person being interview sounded like she was in her 90s, which didn't add up. I was absolutely shocked to learn it was Rickie Lee Jones, who is only 66. Wow. I guess she lived hard.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

she certainly doesn't look 90, her voice does sound a bit odd now though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOjAtmLzM6g

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

she can still sing pretty well, though her range seems to have narrowed a great deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOjAtmLzM6g

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:09 (three years ago) link

It seems like there's always been a mismatch between her singing voice and speaking voice. I remember being truly surprised that the voice sample in "Little Fluffy Clouds" by The Orb was her. But then her speaking voice now sounds way different from her speaking voice then.

Josefa, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

I just compared two interviews from 2015 and 1989, and I guess she always had a drawl. That does make her speaking voice now sound like an older person's.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

She sounds much better in that clip, this thing I heard on NPR sounded old and raspy.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:37 (three years ago) link

I've seen a few excerpts from her new memoir, mostly re heroin use to deal w biz stress, which itself led to more biz probs, "Watch out for the junkie," yeah they're so rare in the music biz, but might have been more to it than that---anyway, she's glad she kicked it, loves her daughter---and from late 70s coverage in Rolling Stone, I gathered that she had a pretty interesting life before getting much involved in the biz. For instance she made a habit of singing to her brother while he was in a coma, until he finally woke up and said."Witch. Which reminds me that I liked Ghostyhead: her voice suited trip hop pretty well. Have also come across some good post-peak live sets on the 'Tube (one thing that still grosses me out: Tom Waits was her boyfriend, way back there now, but yuuuuuck she too cuet for him)

dow, Monday, 12 April 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link

This is what I heard, btw:

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/tnyradiohour/segments/rickie-lee-joness-life-road

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 April 2021 01:03 (three years ago) link

She is an absolute magician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB89sotCQx4

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 03:39 (three years ago) link

Great song I haven’t heard in ages. Love when the other voices come in.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 01:18 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Finished the book last night and really enjoyed it. I was ~2/3 through it and realized, geez, she's only like 17yo to this point. She had a wild early life in all senses of the word. She saw the world, lived a lifetime before she was even 18. The last third goes by quick and is mostly her early career (which overlapped her relationship w/ Tom Waits), which took off fast. But everything that led up to that was in some ways more interesting. She's a great storyteller. Recommended!

I've listened a lot to Pirates and especially Flying Cowboys since starting the book. Beautiful albums and the production on both is fantastic.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

listening to the magazine and flying cowboys for the first time today and while they're not quite as transcendent as pirates they're still really fantastic wow

"satellites"!

ufo, Saturday, 19 June 2021 07:24 (two years ago) link

The Magazine in particular is just brilliant (love Flying Cowboys as well) but yes unfair to compare it to one of the ten best albums of all time.

Vaguely relatedly I lost my copy of Ghostyhead and it appears it is not on streaming services!?!?!

Tim F, Saturday, 19 June 2021 07:41 (two years ago) link


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