I'm a huge fan of Moore (and Slapp Happy esp) and can even sense a bit of some precursers to Dogs of War on his solo stuff, but not a fan of that song, not at all! Lover of Mine is a wonderful bit of Syd pop.
I respect that even with the superstar status, Gimour can still pal around and collaborate with the likes of Moore, Manzanera, Robert Wyatt. Not that those guys are slouches or anything...
― dan selzer, Thursday, 31 August 2017 03:50 (six years ago) link
Hahaha didn't expect you too but I enjoyed the ranking so much I want to see more rankings done by you. Any other non-pf related ranking you'd consider making sometime in the near future?
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 31 August 2017 06:20 (six years ago) link
To not too
If I had to guess your top five pink floyd albums based on your top 20 song rankings I'd say it's:
1. Meddle2. Wish You Were Here3. Piper4. Animals5. Dsotm
There's not that many Piper songs in the top 20 but arnold layne and see emily play and jugband blues are there and they're all Syd' so I suppose you place their only full album with him highly.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 31 August 2017 06:29 (six years ago) link
Am I completely off with your top 5?
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 31 August 2017 06:30 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6HCykbHtBM
― MaresNest, Friday, 1 September 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link
moka - well, since my day job is data analysis i did a breakdown of songs by relative ranking, and the top five were:
wish you were here (101.5)dsotm (101.4)animals (95.25)atom heart mother (87.4)meddle (83 1/3)
piper ranked seventh, below obscured by clouds
obviously my methodology is flawed, since it gives equal weight to "seamus" and "echoes", but it's still interesting data.
what do i actually listen to? usually the less popular stuff. i basically never listen to dsotm or the wall, except in weird cover versions. i listen to "animals" a fair bit. i also listen to "more" a lot because it's some of the least demanding music imaginable. i listen to "piper" but only in mono. i listen to lots of bootlegs too. especially the bbc stuff, but also lots of shitty audience tapes, particularly from 1970-1971 (pretty much any performance from those years puts the live half of "ummagumma" to shame). i'll wax rhapsodic about the version of "main theme from more" played on jan 18, 1970 in croydon, even though the sound quality is unlistenably poor, or insist to you that the version of "the journey" played in plumpton is a much better performance than the better-known concertgebouw version.
i put together a comp cd of some of my favorite floyd cuts in, i don't know, 2013 sometime. tracklist:
a pillow of windspigs on the wing (8-track)crying songsee emily playthe narrow way part 3 (bbc)wot's... uh the dealcrumbling landsheeplucifer sampoint me at the skyfearlessthe embryo (bbc 1970)rain in the countrycomfortably numb (gilmour's demo)morning glory (from "alan's psychedelic breakfast")
...which represents what i listen to decently enough.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 September 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link
fwiw, the 'trivia' you tried to keep out of your writeup would of course be very welcome here
― mookieproof, Saturday, 2 September 2017 03:07 (six years ago) link
^^^
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 September 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link
Mix tape I put together in (probably) 1984 after getting the Dark Side of the Moo bootleg, the Holy Grail of then-unavailable non-LP Floyd tracks:
- Side 1CymbalineLucifer SamIt Would Be So NiceTake Up Thy Stethoscope and WalkIbiza BarChapter 24Point Me at the SkySee Emily PlayJugband BluesArnold LayneCandy and a Current BunCorporal CleggThe Nile SongGreen Is the Colour
- Side 2The Grand Vizier's Garden Party, Part 1: EntranceAstronomy Domine (Ummagumma live version)Let There Be More LightEmbryoSysyphus, Part 3Grantchester MeadowSet the Controls for the Heart of the SunA Saucerful of SecretsThe Grand Vizier's Garden Party, Part 3: Exit
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 2 September 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
Dark side of the Moo was life-changing for me.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 2 September 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
That's is genuinely very interesting.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 2 September 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link
Correction to my Floyd tape above:
What I assumed was "Sysyphus, Part 3" when I wrote out the track list way back when (because the vinyl didn't show track separations between the 4 parts), turned out in the CD era to be the first 3 minutes of Part 4: quiet keyboard and birdsong which leads handily into "Grantchester Meadow."
Also, the "Grand Vizier: Entrance" excerpt is only the flute part.
(Because you're all going to fire up Audacity and recreate this mix. Don't forget to tighten up the gap between "Corporal Clegg" and "The Nile Song"--1 second at most!)
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 2 September 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link
Made a Spotify playlist of this - it hangs together way better than you'd think! Shows the continuity between Syd-era Floyd and the next few albums. Nice one, HL.
― bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 3 September 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link
Omayyad was my gateway bootleg LP. I never got hold of Dark Side Of The Moo until Napster.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
pre-Opel I used to have a Syd Barrett bootleg that used the Robyn Hitchcock cartoon of Vegetable Man as a cover. I'd give anything to have it back if only for nostalgic reasons.
It also had Singing a Song in the Morning on it.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/photos/var/albums/Pink-Floyd-Photos/tour-programmes/Misc/Cartoon%20-%20Vegetable%20Man%20by%20Robyn%20Hitchcock.jpg?m=1391961282
― Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link
yeah that's the one.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 11:47 (six years ago) link
Hear Lost Recording of Pink Floyd Playing with Jazz Violinist Stéphane Grappelli on “Wish You Were Here.” Love this!https://t.co/PkqpGXRUfQ pic.twitter.com/l2VwhnU9K4— Open Culture (@openculture) September 11, 2017
― badg, Monday, 11 September 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
is that different than the one on the deluxe Wish You Were Here?
P I N K F L O Y D R U L E S
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 11 September 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
no it's the same one
― akm, Monday, 11 September 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link
i wish they'd done a mix with the actual finished version of the song but with that layered in rather than this approach.
― akm, Monday, 11 September 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
that take RULES!
one of my favorite paragraphs in rushomancy's great list was:
After a minute of a riff played through a distant radio - a sound effect which is beyond "working" or "not working" and is simply now just a part of our nature - the lyrics open with a series of comparisons which grow gradually more incongrous and off-kilter. Heaven and hell - we can understand these things. Blue skies from... pain? Did you mean rain? Was that a typo? Did I trade hot ashes for trees? The emotional resonance of the words is clear, but the order... are hot ashes heaven? Are trees hell?
― niels, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link
The transition from "The Happiest Days of Our Lives" to "Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2," when it lands in F major - man, that's a beautiful thing!
― timellison, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link
Gang, I just wanted to pop on to say that The Soundtrack to 'More' still rules. That is all.
― cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
yeah, rules. kind of related: http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2017/10/pink-floyd-massed-gadgets-of-auximenes.html
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
nice- I loved that the first time around. I just discovered the existence of Realisation & Dramatisation - the 'beat' version of the More Theme, of course, rules
― cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
More and Obscured by Clouds are both great!
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
The two genders:
https://i.imgur.com/fmRGW5b.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 14 October 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link
ok that prism is just way too big. fucking texans.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Saturday, 14 October 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
We just finished a week long indulgence in the entirety of last year's box set, audio and visual -- I even saw the movies in full -- and I'm still pondering how to put my thoughts together. Quite an experience.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 October 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
Are you thinking... Pink Floyd rules?
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 14 October 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
anybody who watches "more" in its entirety has my deepest sympathies.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Saturday, 14 October 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
'Choppy' would be an understatement, especially in terms of characterization of main dude. Absolutely beautiful footage, though; Schroeder and his cinematographer knew what they were doing. (Similarly with La Vallee).
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 October 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
PF 1969-71 still feels slept on by a lot of people, if it's true, it's a real shame.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 14 October 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
Might not be slept on if Pink Floyd themselves had anything good to say about it - though I suppose "Meddle" is in there, they seem to approve of that.
― Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 October 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
Well, it's their patchiest era, so it's not surprising that that particular era is slept on. Although I suspect "slept on" isn't correct term... millions of people at this stage have probably heard those albums - it just so happens many don't like 'em.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 14 October 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
tbf I suppose "The Wall" isn't patchy, it's consistently shite.
― Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 October 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link
They hated the way Atom Heart Mother turned out, and Ummagumma feels less like an album from the time and, well, an archival release from right now -- if that had all surfaced as part of the box and had never been heard before, I wouldn't've been surprised at all. The box really does a great job in not only reclaiming the era more thoroughly but conveying why they had such an intense following not only out of the gate but after what in any other situation would have been a crippling switch-out of lead creative figures. I was consistently intrigued by the size of the crowds, festival settings or otherwise.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
― Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.)
i kind of assumed that until listening to the whole thing through again... it really isn't! it's got good stuff on it and awful stuff on it. bob ezrin's production also makes it a lot more listener-friendly than "atom heart mother" is.
i won't say '69, but '70-'71 they were consistent, and consistently great, as a live band - if i only could judge by the studio albums i'm not sure '70-'71 floyd would be my favorite era.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link
They were pretty good in '69, the problem I have with '71 is that "Echoes" is so outrageously overrated by everyone - esp. the band, that story they tell about about Rick Wright playing the opening notes thru the Binson like it was the Holy Grail...
― Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link
Meddle works precisely because it isn't all "Echoes" -- you have to have that first half as is. And we do, thankfully. I love how all over the place it goes, and at its breeziest it's not far at all from Obscured by Clouds. Thinking on which: seeing how the songs actually work in both the Schroeder films -- strictly diagetic, as songs on radios, tape players, etc that the characters have to hand or are listening to -- I really enjoy taking them all now less as 'Floyd' songs and more as them creating their own weird little riffs or reinterpretations of sounds and styles around them. I forget which song on Obscured it is, but there's a cut that's essentially their take on Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit in the Sky," and made me realize that if they just ever wanted to be some sort of easy good time boogie band they always had it in them. (See also, getting back to Meddle, "Seamus.")
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:42 (six years ago) link
"the gold it's in the", right?
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link
of course there's always this, syd barrett's 1972 attempt at a "boogie band". this tends to be undermined a certain amount the presence of fred frith on guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgnlUEyQXw
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link
No, I think "Free Four" is the one that sounds like "Spirit in the Sky", except nowhere near as good, I don't need to hear Floyd doing blues/ boogie etc tbh. (xp)
― Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 October 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link
was in my hometown yesterday and saw a smart car covered in pink floyd decals and with the license plate PNKFLYD
― ciderpress, Sunday, 15 October 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pAwfSntPic
this alt take of "Matilda Mother" is insanely good. "And finding she was left alone we tiptoe to the telephone NINE! NINE! NINE!" one of the coolest outtakes ever here!
listening to The Early Years tonight <3 "Walk With Me Sidney" i really dig the early stuff it is almost a punk/noise take on the blues at times. "Double O Bo" is sick
THE PINK FLOYD RULES
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 15 October 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link
Sounds less like a Smart Car and more like a RULES CAR.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 October 2017 08:36 (six years ago) link
Heads up:
https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2017/11/14/pink-floyd-kqed-1970/
In short: this is an unaired performance of "Astronomy Domine" that was done for the KQED broadcast that year, but which did NOT surface on the box set last year.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link
in short, it RULES obvi like the v intense angry face Rog is making towards the end
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link