brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

Jim, re: the young snp voters you describe, how deep rooted do you think their desire for independence is? And how much of it is more "let's have independence so we don't get endless tory governments courtesy of the English", which would (conceivably, temporarily) be less of a concern under Corbyn?

― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:40 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im not sure as i am handicapped in two ways - have lived away from scotland for 5 years, and am 33 years old with a friendship group of similar age. i know that people around my age, from the glasgow area, in their 30s, on the left are generally fairly wedded to independence as an idea at this stage, especially those who were active during the referendum campaign

so apparently it's going to be richard leonard vs anas sarwar. leonard is a union guy, member of the campaign for socialism (which amalgamated with momentum), and sarwar is an absolutely brutal diddy of the centrist mark who will be found out as a non-entity after any amount of debate

so you're saying it's gonna be sarwar

Activate activated

"We're Activate and we're striking back.... #Meme #Retweet #FeeltheForce" pic.twitter.com/cDGtCgKlWO

— Activate UK (@ActivateBritain) August 31, 2017

#FellTheForce

conservative youth group activate uk encouraged their opponents to take their own lives in a shocking post on social networking site twitter today

note to self: don't post every half-witted Activate garbage-tweet to ILX for everyone to laugh at, as this amplifies their message

b-b-but i enjoy laughing at their message ;_;

I looked at their twitter followers the other day and they seemed to be approx 70% ironic follows from left wingers, which does make me worry that they've found a way to turn their essential crapness into a successful marketing strategy

that's basically how memes work

i dunno if i'd describe attracting followers who are only there to laugh at your messages as 'successful'

Activate's Twitter account came under a successful hacking attempt at 15:34 today. The hacker has been identified & reported to the police.

— Activate UK (@ActivateBritain) August 31, 2017

their account now consists of 4 tweets

Activate lads also had a whatsapp log leaked where they joked about sending chavs to gas chambers, so banner day all around.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-gassing-chavs-whatsapp-messages-group-chat-activate-members-leaked-a7921086.html

"joked"

Just a bit of banter!

Now that's how you make a proper Momentum parody account!

seems like the imaginary Twitter hackers have been busy the last couple of days: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/30/tory-mp-conor-burns-twitter-account-hacked-michel-barnier

They'll never beat the OG though

http://metro.co.uk/2014/11/27/tory-mp-hastily-deletes-twitter-favourites-after-porn-gaffe-4964888/

those pesky security settings

apparently Mogg extolling the "area enriching" virtues of gentrification on AQ tonight. the BBC giving more airtime to right wing extremists.

If you're wondering who's in charge of @ActivateBritain - here he is in a 1987 Conservative Youth video. Truly astounding. pic.twitter.com/dPpfiUgQ0x

— News Thing on RT UK (@NewsThingRT) September 1, 2017

Mogg gets away with ill-educated(!) claptrap like "because of the good work of our farmers we have always been able to feed more than the population we produce". I don't even think anyone even buried in the last century has lived in a period of food self sufficiency in this country. But this fucking ugly little prick can make shit up like this on the spot, stuff that kids in primary wouldn't get away with, completely unchallenged. cos he lives in a big house. And the BBC of course.

When your best schools produce some fuckwitted moron like him. Who tries to arrogantly countermand basic facts in his general talk to cover for his ignorance, and uses the tired Poundshop epithet, then I say execute the lot of them.

fuck that, i'm joining Maggiez Matez

it isn't like Mogg has a formidable arsenal of Oxford debating society tricks up his sleeve. Everyone just shuts up and lets the dimwitted posh cunt blather on forever. Which is quite embarrassing when his "through a monocle" takes on EEC negotiations, the housing crisis, gentrification etc are so staggeringly idiotic and deluded. But somewhere out there, people lap up this dismal shit: Haw haw, he just called Juncker a poundshop Bismarck, priceless!

alls you need is a posh accent and a stupid name and some people will assume you're educated

oh and they'll also assume you know how economics and power works in a totally objective, "them's the facts of life" kind of way

i mean some people are just born to be fucking lickspittles basically

I'd say listen to the AQ repeat on R4 later, but international-break weekends are already barren and depressing enough. Maybe don't bother. I am amazed that people will applaud someone for using the Poundshop epithet, like it is such a fresh and witty zing. Especially someone with about 50 layers of fucking brasso. Christ, I can recall Clive Lewis getting criticised in the Graun for the sin of re-tweeting an anti-neolib Grenfell meme. Because obv that was falling short of the honeyed classicism that MP's should be reaching for.

i've already looked to see if there's gonna be any sport worth watching today :(

might keep me out of the pub i guess

nah probably not

surely you're a committed birmingham bears fan

In normal times JR-M would be a colourful and occasionally entertaining but largely ignorable backbencher, the fact that the Tories are talking about him as a potential leader and saviour with a straight face shows quite how desperate and weird they've become.

I'm on the way to the Grenfell game this afternoon, quite looking forward to seeing Les Ferdinand and Mo Farah put nine past Alan Shearer and Richard Ashcroft.

got together with a friend last night who has decent government contacts. said the workings of brexit are an absolute disaster. David Davis and Liam Fox are barely ever available (Fox does a couple of hours work in the morning but spends the rest of the time from lunch generally 'relaxing' with a drink), they don't know the meaning of work, and totally believe their own public messaging on the ease of achieving a deal and flag waving etc. There is no grip on detail, and they simply haven't done the basic work required to engage with the EU on a meaningful level.

I mean it shouldn't be surprising, and was more or less obvious, but somehow it still is shocking to have confirmation of the incompetent shitshow of buffoons in charge of trying to negotiate this process.

the attempt to make j-rm a thing feels like gaslighting on a national scale - the tory press would be a feeble joke, were it not for the disproportionate control of the overall tone of the media they seem to wield.

Imago I'll watch tip and run if there's nowt else on and kneejerk cheer the Bears but let's be real

I wonder if there are enough disgruntled Remain Tories who would be aghast enough at the situation Fizzles is describing, to push for a motion of no confidence. I'm guessing that even most centrists would rather see a major economic disaster than a Corbyn government, which they would probably view as the same thing really.

If they are convinced enough that a Corbyn government would be a brief and disastrous affair then they would be persuaded to wield the knife.

I don't think they are at all convinced of that.

agree, and it comes back to the jrm conundrum, who the fuck in the tory party is going to take over from TM? I think suzy said Jo Johnson before, which seems as reasonable a bet as any, but the lack of competence in the party is really amusing.

i've been in the presence of jo johnson a couple of times and he seems to be the kind of guy who'd be handily outmatched in a battle of wits by a scarecrow filled with damp moss

wheeeeee

Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 43% (+2)
CON: 38% (-1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 4% (-2)

via @Survation

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) September 2, 2017

another royal baby hurrah

glad somebody is thinking of the soylent green plants in the face of post-Brexit scarcity

Well instead of cursing another goddamned royal fetus, maybe we should be looking at what "it" could contribute towards our food self-sufficiency ratio!

it's the leadership this country wants and needs

open on two ragged mums sharing a cup of hot water flavoured with stones as bodies litter the street and cars burn in the background

mum #1:'do you like babies'
mum #2: 'sure they're fine but i couldn't eat a whole one lol'

NEW SOYLENT GREEN: JUST ENOUGH BABY

Scroungers having loads of kids and expecting us taxpayers to pay for it. High society is in the gutter.

Lol is the new royal baby a panicked response to labour opinion poll lead

it's the only rational explanation tbh

Aren't the royals significant landowners and very wealthy in themselves in fact is this not a very lazy angle and are ye not in fact much better than this

we are not and you know this