Rolling Afro-Latin Music 2017: Salsa, Bomba, Merengue,Reggaeton, Bachata, Latin Jazz, Bolero and more

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Another take re "Despacito"--

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/whats-next-for-latin-music-after-the-summer-of-despacito/2017/08/24/703ba7de-8816-11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=.797a9cedc6f6

The success of “Despacito” and “Mi Gente” also has to be coupled with other mainstream media appearances and opportunities for visibility, explains Jack Rico, the host of the Latin pop culture podcast Highly Relevant. He points out that “Despacito,” with all its record-breaking accolades, was left out of this year’s Video Music Awards nominations. Rico says mass-media moments like these are critical blows to Latin representation....The current iteration of this Latin boom has also been very specific when it comes to those who benefit. Male artists who make music in the reggaeton-pop vein have a path to success, but that’s not necessarily the case for those who don’t fit the “Despacito” model. Spanish-speaking female artists are missing from the crossover conversation, which also doesn’t include lesser-known genres in the Latin music world.

Isabelia Herrera, the music editor of the culture website Remezcla, notes that the idea of “Latin music” itself is problematic, a broad umbrella term that encompasses dozens of countries and genres. All eyes on reggaeton-pop may not actually help genres that don’t sound like what’s trending right now.

“I think this pop moment that reggaeton is having is probably going to continue and be very successful. If you look at the Latin charts, it performs the best,” Herrera said. “But if we talk about regional Mexican, or salsa, I’m very hesitant. I don’t really know what’s going to happen with things that don’t fit into the construction of what outsiders think Latin music is.”

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link

Yep.

Meanwhile Fania, I see in another Billboard article, is trying to promote their brand to a new audience via dj remixes:

“At Fania, we see working with DJs and creating remixes of the original classic as a huge opportunity to target a new audience and thus begin a lifelong connection with the Fania brand,” Skolnick said. “It’s working incredibly well. We’ve increased our social media engagement with 18-34 year olds by more than 150% in the last two years.”

Recently completing a tour in Europe, Marquez will perform at a record release party at Kinfolk as part of the Armada Fania DJ pop series in Brooklyn on Sept. 7, before going on an extensive tour throughout the U.S.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/latin/7941984/fanias-santiago-sessions-how-a-globetrotting-djs-childhood-led-to-him

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

Spanish-speaking female artists are missing from the crossover conversation, which also doesn’t include lesser-known genres in the Latin music world.

Oh no! Lesser no genres in Latin music continue to be obscure. It's all the fault of those outsiders constructing what "Latin music" is. Everyone knows that all Latinos (another problematic construction, admittedly) listen to all of Latin music in its entirety.

A lot of music writing (like a lot of other writing) seems driven by the need to say something, even if there's nothing that needs to be said.

The hand-wringing looks pretty funny to me at this point.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

Everyone knows that all Latinos (another problematic construction, admittedly) listen to all of Latin music in its entirety.

That's why I used to hear Puerto Ricans blasting all that banda when I was living at 16th & Green in Philadelphia in the 90s.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

The Despacito video breaks new ground, drawing attention to previously completely ignored Latina curviness.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

But uncelebrated Latina asses remain uncelebrated. What is to be done?

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

Somewhere there is a reasonably good looking young Ecuadoran woman with not much of a booty at all. When will a major label put her in a video?

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile I see that El Gran Combo de Puerto Rico are doing a 55th anniversary tour that will bring them to the Palace, in Woodbridge , VA half an hour or so south of Washington DC Friday night. Only Spanish language bands play there. I think I saw the 50th anniversary tour.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 31 August 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

I have basically zero sympathy for people demanding mainstream recognition of Spanish-language music in the U.S. That actor may have some points. I can't really comment on film and TV since I'm so oblivious to them. But Despacito is a pop reggaeton mediocrity, I don't care how many youtube views it has received, or how many times it has been streamed. (I would of course care if I were in the music industry.)

Me [while Africando's "Yay Boy" is playing in club]: This is a good song.
Puerto Rican salsera: Do you understand the words?
Me: No.
Puerto Rican salsera: How do you know it's a good song.

A lot of people think that way, not just white non-Hispanics.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 31 August 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

True re how many people react to non-English songs. However while I recognize that statistically the likelihood of reggaeton or more obscure Latinx sounds becoming a regular part of the mainstream US pop culture may be small, I understand the desire for that culture to be represented.

So "Despacito" was played at a wedding that I was at over Labor Day weekend, and even two (likely Trump supporting )conservatives there that I know, danced.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

Kind of like this, but the melodies seem very familiar and I suspect it's a cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cghPur_wWz0

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 15 September 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

New Plena Libre album.

I'm just looking through the very esoteric Spotify New Music Friday Latin playlist.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 15 September 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

the melodies seem very familiar and I suspect it's a cover

Yeah - it's right there in the video description: "un remake del clásico de Jorge González"

Here's the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZTp-jWf_GM

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 15 September 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link

OK. I originally heard it on Spotify.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 16 September 2017 05:02 (six years ago) link

Thanks for heads up on new Plena Libre. Like them

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 September 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link

Poor Puerto Rico...Hurricane hit it hard

curmudgeon, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/06/arts/music/lin-manuel-miranda-puerto-rico-relief-song.html?_r=0

The charity benefit song "Almost Like Praying" is on Spotify. It's got its moments.

Rather than creating a mournful number, Mr. Miranda said in an interview, he hoped to capture “the spirit of the island.” As a result, the bilingual “Almost Like Praying,” which takes its title and chorus from Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim’s “Maria,” from “West Side Story,” is bursting with energy

an upbeat charity single featuring an all-star lineup of Latin artists from across genres and generations, including Jennifer Lopez, Gloria Estefan, Fat Joe, Luis Fonsi, Rubén Blades, Camila Cabello, John Leguizamo, Rita Moreno and Marc Anthony....
Also featured on the song: Pedro Capo, Dessa, Juan Luis Guerra, Alex Lacamoire, Ednita Nazario, Joell Ortiz, Anthony Ramos, Gina Rodriguez, Gilberto Santa Rosa, PJ Sin Suela, Tommy Torres and Ana Villafañe.)

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 October 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link

washburne is an all around cool dude

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 8 October 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

Have you met him?

Commandolin Wind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 October 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

yeah, coupla times. very friendly on those occasions and happy to talk details and history. also works with belafonte's social justice project teaching music to prisoners
https://www.sankofa.org/

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

Cool. Did you tell him about your dad?

Commandolin Wind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link

heh, yeah i did because he was doing a show about the caribbean roots of ragtime and it seemed pertinent.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 02:09 (six years ago) link

Was that for his latest project, Rags and Bones?

Commandolin Wind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link

yep, i saw him do it with a full band; was one of my better shows of this year tbh

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link

Saw Washburne in visiting bands in DC a few times. Good player.

Unrelated. Caught some of this below linked PBS doc recently, that aired earlier this year. Some great 60s and 70s NY footage in this. Fania era

http://www.pbs.org/video/latin-music-usa-hour-2-the-salsa-revolution/

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

http://remezcla.com/lists/music/latinx-music-writers/

Mostly pop and reggaeton

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 October 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

N*d S*blette likes his live NY Latin Jazz

Cuban trovador José Aquiles (from Santiago de Cuba) with David Virelles (his son) at the Jazz Gallery on the 20th. I'd definitely go see Harold López-Nussa at the Blue Note (Oct. 23-24), and I'd go to Bobby Sanabria's PR benefit at Le Poisson Rouge (23).

... benefit organized by Miguel Zenón at Jazz Gallery Nov. 1,

. . . and to this one:>#POETSFORPUERTORICO / A Reading for Hurricane Relief / Saturday, November 4, 2017 / 6:00 p.m.
Poets House / 10 River Terrace / Corner Murray & River Terrace / New York, NY

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 03:11 (six years ago) link

Heard the J. Balvin remix of "Mi Gente" with Beyoncé on Spanish-language pop radio this morning.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

i don't understand much spanish. i just learned what the chorus lyrics to becky g's "mayores" mean and O_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMFewiplIbw

dyl, Friday, 27 October 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

yeah, huh.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 27 October 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link

> Singer orders all white audience members to stand in the back

> White female volunteer refuses

> Volunteer banned for being racist 🙈 pic.twitter.com/kPgHZNTJDL

— The Safest Space (@TheSafestSpace) November 4, 2017

It's okay to be white.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 November 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link

What does that have to do with this thread?

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 November 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link

http://uproxx.com/music/karol-g-casi-nada-acoustic-uncharted/

Reggaeton/ r’nb /Trap vocalist Karol G goes acoustic in the link

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 04:56 (six years ago) link

She's on tour in the US. With rapper Noriel. Karol G is from Colombia.

On a separate unrelated US tour is the current version of salsa band Grupo Niche, from Colombia.

from wiki--
At the age of 62, Varela was found dead in his Cali home on August 8, 2012, apparently from heart failure.[3] Jairo's daughter, Yanila Varela has been the Grupo Niche's owner since her father's death in 2012.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

Karol G with reggaeton & "salsa Urbana" producers/performers LaFame. I kinda like this one too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7xZUPI4LwA

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link

RIP percussionist Bobby Matos

Born in the Bronx, moved to Cali in the 80s played with lots of Latino and non-Latino acts (Miriam Makeba, Jim Croche)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link

http://www.mcny.org/exhibition/rhythm-power

Would like to see this Rhythm and Power: Salsa in NYC exhibit before it closes 11-26. But not sure I will be able to

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 November 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

I was up in NYC this weekend and made it to the Rhythm and Power: Salsa in NYC exhibit! It's small but enjoyable. A great dance video in the hallway that show's the outline of dancers doing various steps, plus a bunch of album covers and other artifacts and audio and photos. Some nice old Palladium ones from the 50s.

curmudgeon, Monday, 20 November 2017 05:39 (six years ago) link

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/17/arts/music/latin-grammys-despacito-lin-manuel-miranda.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

Wow, Ruben Blades won album of the year at the Latin Grammys in Vegas.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

I was up in NYC this weekend and made it to the Rhythm and Power: Salsa in NYC exhibit! It's small but enjoyable.

Only open at Museum of City of NY through Sunday....

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 November 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

Wow, Ruben Blades won album of the year at the Latin Grammys in Vegas.

The album "Salsa Big Band" credited to Blades and Roberto Delgado & Orquesta does not appear to be on Spotify

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 November 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

I'm back in love with "Imitadora," but definitely despite Romeo Santos' ridiculous shtick.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 27 November 2017 05:29 (six years ago) link

His devoted fans like it, I guess

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

http://remezcla.com/lists/music/best-latin-songs-of-2017/

#2. "Tú y Yo" - La Favi

#3"Mi Gente" - J Balvin, Willy William

#4 "Soy Peor" - Bad Bunny

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 05:00 (six years ago) link

Those Armada Fania remixes mentioned upthread are fire btw

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 08:50 (six years ago) link

Cuban jazz pianist David Virelles is on Ben Ratliff ‘s best of album list in Esquire

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link


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