and when the lead was 158 when i posted with 3 wickets left it could easily have been windies chasing 170. 250 would set up a cracking finish I think. Both teams would start with an equal chance I think.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link
srsly even 170 in a 4th innings is not a simple ask
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link
If Stokes and Bairstow hadnt played stupid shots England would've won easily.
KP used to get pelters for getting out like that!
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link
yeah but KP is a cunt :D
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
no, it's not simple, but its one big partnership. and any batting side would still expect to do it. Esp if the suns out!
xp
lol shhh imago might see that!
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
Lead is 188 at tea. Game is nicely poised and could go either way.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link
England have shown some fight in this innings, usually we crumble if there's a first innings deficit. It's been a proper good match. Think Stoneman and Malan have done enough to get the last test but Westwood needs replaced. Hales at 3 or 5 anybody?
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link
well yeah that was my original point, i would say once England got past 150 it was heading into "interesting finish" territory rather than a thrashing
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link
btw 250 target should make England favourites but its not too much to get. 220 and it could go either way. under 200 I'd fancy W Indies.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link
oh yeah this wont be a bowled out for 90 or a 10 wicket win.
I think everything depends on this woakes and ali partnership
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
It's not nicely poised, England are favourites.
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link
not certainties. I think if these 2 add runs england are favourites. Target of 190-200 I'd back West Indies to make a real fist of it.
250 plus England clear faves.
Its all on woakes and ali
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
List of 4th innings victorious run chases at Headingley.
Only 3 times have a team chased more than England's current lead at Headingley; one of those was Bradman's Invincibles; one was Butcher going berserk in a dead rubber against a great Australian team; the last was England scraping over the line with 219/7 in 1982 against Pakistan.
― AndrĂ© Ryu (Neil S), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
We're about to find out. 3 quick wickets and w indies have a chance
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
records are there to be broken! It's going to be exciting either way.
― AndrĂ© Ryu (Neil S), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link
I agree. 220 target would still be interesting
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
I think the west indies spinners might be the key here rather than the seamers (unlike this morning where they got it wrong)
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
You think England are going to lose their last three wickets for single figures, do you? When you've got a guy with five test centuries at the crease? Anything is possible, as we all know, but if I were a betting man...
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
yup theyre going with the part time spinner. I think Woakes and Ali would rather face them than Shannon Gabriel and his pace. Very odd
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link
Tom - we dont know. we just saw a few quick wickets and anything can happen. Its not looking likely after that last over though
nice 50 from Moeen and a whole day to bowl them out no worries
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
All im saying is England arent clear faves at this very moment. esp when it was effectively 158-7. Games changing since i posted it tho . Windies still in it. another 50 runs and England will be clear faves
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link
NV if that happens with ali then i totally agree. but its no gimme it will happen, that's all im saying
England clearly in a better position now than it was when I first posted!
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link
2 stinking overs by the west indies and lead is 200
after those 2 overs there's no way they are gonna get 3 quick wickets
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
Bishoo on. Moeen Ali out!....off a no ball!!
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link
how can a spinner bowl a no ball? lol
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link
Reviewing an LBW shout now
Not Out.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
All im saying is England arent clear faves at this very moment.
I imagine betting organizations are relieved you don't work for them.
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
If the spinner hadnt put his foot 1 mm over the line then it could've been interesting
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
TMS guys saying it might not've been a no ball, they reckon the back of his heel hadn't fully crossed the line even tho it was off the ground
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link
SKY thought the same but a close up replay showed it was JUST over. Fair play to the umpire for getting it right after missing so many no balls today!
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
West Indies have been stinking since tea and it looks like it is getting away from them. They need a bit of luck now or something stupid from England.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
They will regret that no ball as Ali scores so quickly
partnership of 81 off about 80 balls making my post look completely wrong now, lol
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link
and as i say that woakes edges one but just short
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
Ali reaches fifty
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
Lead is 250 with 3 wkts left still. West Indies really wasted their chance.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
Ali out, caught on the boundary for 84
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
Lead is 275
well this game turned around didn't it.
― Ste, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/n7Vhue9.png
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
280 isn't impossible but it would take a really really really good effort as others were saying above.
If they hadn't no-balled when Ali was caught behind W indies it wouldve been very different
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
England have declared! W Indies need 322 to win.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link
that's just mean trying to finish them off tonight
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Imago you must be pretty chuffed that they have actually declared for once? Usually they would want 350 minimum
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
West Indies never looked threatened in these 6 overs
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link