i think the two shifts totally go hand in hand: i absolutely associate the 80s new wavification of rock with the mainstreaming of the erotic thriller -- not least bcz the texture of music videos permeated the early 80s films in this vein (and vice versa)
― mark s, Sunday, 27 August 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWz9VN40nCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPTELylZ1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Z6MAK58gs
― mark s, Sunday, 27 August 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link
Excellent point but you have inexplicably omitted Sheena Easton's "Sugar Walls."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Alq8rJIbo
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 27 August 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link
"Self Control" definitely. All that exciting danger a liberated woman encounters.
Definitely why Dressed to Kill fits.
Also, random notes:
Jonathan Rosenbaum on Basic Instinct: https://m.chicagoreader.com/chicago/how-to-write-a-3-million-script/Content?oid=879416
Fatal Attraction is the all-time hit of this genre, isn't it?
And given how long it took Kubrick to make Eyes WideShut, he must've started in on it around that time.
― Eazy, Sunday, 27 August 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link
So why did "In the Cut" end Meg Ryan's career? It's not great but she is not particularly terrible, nor is it by any means embarrassing. It's just a creepy little movie.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link
It didn't, iirc. I want to say the nail in the coffin - beyond just her entering upper middle age and getting written out of roles like Renee Russo on down - was a few years earlier, with "Proof of Life," when her affair with Russel Crowe (right?) got her branded the proverbial other woman and she became tabloid fodder. I suppose it's more accurate to say "In the Cut" killed Campion's Hollywood hopes.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
It's well-made and directed imo
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link
It was fine, iirc. But maybe, especially a few years post Piano, so anonymously 'erotic thriller" that no one cared. That's why I don't think it's Meg that it killed, any more than, say, Sliver killed Sharon Stone's career. Which, of course, it didn't, if you include "Casino," but that was an outlier. It feels that Sliver (like Jade did for Linda Fiorentino) really reduced her to a joke, even if Joe Eszterhas was ultimately to blame for both. And those plus Showgirls killed his career as much as it did theirs.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link
That is, all those movies took down their respective auteurs and while not necessarily their leads, they seemed to go down with them.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link
https://www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/From-Basic-Instinct-to-Showgirls-the-15865290.php
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link
Adrian Lyne and Ben Affleck are bringing it back, baby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Water_(2021_film)
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link
Further to which
Crazy gossip from work I can’t not share: at least one of the big streamers wants to bring back erotic thrillers. (Can’t wait for a new Adrian Lyne movie)— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) May 8, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 May 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link
let's goooooooo
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 9 May 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link
"I hear you're a...big streamer..."
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 9 May 2021 02:24 (two years ago) link
from peppe the piss pig, a watersports-themed erotic thriller
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Sunday, 9 May 2021 02:34 (two years ago) link
straight to streaming erotic thrillers sounds like a goldmine
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 9 May 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link
this is definitely Prime if it's true
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Sunday, 9 May 2021 03:20 (two years ago) link
hope all erotic thriller fans are aware of the delightful and odd podcast NIGHT TIME FOR ONEhttp://nighttimeforone.com/
― sean gramophone, Sunday, 9 May 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link
I love Prime it's such a weird chaotic mess, there are some crazy weird 70s movies down in the Prime basement
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 9 May 2021 03:57 (two years ago) link
the voyeurs which has just popped up on amazon prime def looks like it’s got this vibe
― just sayin, Saturday, 11 September 2021 09:17 (two years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-xndtrXsAAc2VH.jpg
― just sayin, Saturday, 11 September 2021 09:27 (two years ago) link
C5 have been repeating Red Shoe Diaries, just in case you missed David Duchovny reading steamy letters to a dog.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 September 2021 11:23 (two years ago) link
read Michael Mohan as Michael Chabon at first
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 11 September 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link
https://deadline.com/2021/12/ben-affleck-ana-de-armas-movie-deep-water-heading-to-streaming-1234890214/
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 December 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link
Here we go:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/you-must-remember-this-new-season-erotic-movies-1235107060/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link
Some films discussed in the season will be American Gigolo, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Fatal Attraction, as well as works from Steven Soderbergh and Brian De Palma, among others. Each episode will focus on one year, discussing movies and stars, with the season culminating in the year 1999, focusing on Stanley Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut.
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link
hmm
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link
no skerritt no credibility
I was actually just thinking about Jade the other day and Linda Fiorentino, surely one of the undisputed queens of the genre
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link
Fast Times seems somewhat out of place there
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link
Well the net seems to be cast a bit broadly, no bad thing.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link
last american virgin seems to fit the bill, as well
― Punster McPunisher, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 21:20 (two years ago) link