Let's talk about BoJack Horseman, the new Netflix animated series (starring Will Arnett, Alison Brie, Amy Sedaris, Aaron Paul, etc)

I guess some people just don't deserve this show

it's not like it wasn't a great show to start with though

It's weird how between this and The Leftovers the two best shows on tv are explorations of depression and how it's ok to live that way. (Not counting Twin Peaks because it's transcended tv in many ways.)

first moment i've ever considered watching the leftovers

It's literally series 1 episode 7 (i.e. the exact start of the series' second half) where this goes from amusing to amazing

Yeah, I remember liking this from the start but then there's this moment where you're like, WHAT? THIS is what's happening? THIS is what I'm watching??

Kind of off-topic, but new season of live action The Tick starts soon

― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Friday, August 25, 2017 9:27 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what whaaaaaaaaaaat? with patrick warburton? or someone else?

peter serafinowicz

wow. how did i miss this completely? is it good?

anyway, super pumped for new Bojack.

I don't really understand the Rick & Morty/Family Guy/Simpsons analogy. If anything it's more like this: Rick and Morty:Bojack::South Park:The Simpsons

xp i watched the pilot on Amazon, was pretty solid. a bit darker and less laugh out loud funny than the Warburton version but there were some solid superhero satire.

honestly as long as Edlund is involved, it'll be good

Bojack is absolutely brilliant
Never thought I'd be almost crying to a Nina Simone song on a snarky cartoon horse show

And also if you only just watched the first few episodes of season 1, you effectively haven't seen the show afaic, it's not like it just "gets better" like more adept, it goes in a completely different direction you can't really prepare for

yeah at first the show is quite glib about bojack's alcoholism and loneliness but then it actually actively explores it in a more human and seriousway, and he reaches some real rock bottom nadir moments which i found genuinely affecting

it's a good show

I like this show but some of it hits way too close to home that it just bums me out

it's very strange that the show that best depicts the actual effects of depression on victims and people in their lives is a pun-heavy show about a man-horse/horse-man but then again we live in strange times

I think that's what makes it work tbh, most depressed people (ime) don't constantly feel depressed, it's all about feeling it when the descent hits. the animal puns are like those stretches of time when you fleetingly forget you're a fuckup

that and i think that making it about goofy animals means it can get dark in a way that a live-action real people show would struggle with

imago's trolling take on Rick & Morty bizarre and comically off the mark.

I'm gonna give Bojack another spin. First three or so episodes I watched were not exactly inspiring.

#Hype
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/bojack-horseman-season-4-review-netflix-1201871227/

I feel like everyone would have done a Mr Peanutbutter #HOPE parody poster, but wow at the execution of this one.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIHBjs9UQAAAwf-.jpg

can i just start with 1.07 then?

also found the start of the first season kind of glib and unfunny

dug the underwater ep though

The trouble with skipping episodes is that you miss stuff that sets up later payoffs. Just drink it all down and trust me that it gets good

I think you need to see 1.03. That sets up a lot of stuff. 5 and 6 are good as well. So, like, take it from 3?

You could jump to 1.08 (the Herb Kazazz episode) if you want to check how good it gets, and then double back, perhaps?

I reckon 7 is just as devastating as 8 in its own quieter way

Imago's comparison is bad because rick n morty is much closer in quality to bojack (arguably better in some ways) than family guy or South Park for that matter are to the simpsons

fine fine fine, i'll watch more of it. as we've learnt you should never judge a series by the first few episodes, kids

They should just stop making the first few episodes, then. Problem solved.

Which modern multi-series shows were at top quality (by the show's standard) straight out of the gate I wonder

maybe not modern but Ren and Stimpy was top quality pretty much out of the gate

Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Battlestar Galactica - and those are just the Bs! - Fargo, Party Down, Justified, The Wire, The Americans ...

Comedies seem to have it tougher, since so much timing and whatnot stems from chemistry and being comfortable with one another, writers and actors alike.

most animated comedies i think of took a couple years to cohere. king of the hill, simpsons, etc

id argue so far s3 of rick & morty seems like inarguably the most consistent so far

^deejiest post ever

"It is impossible to argue this thing. My argument begins:"

yes my argument is that my argument cant be argued with

OK, I realized I had only seen the first episode, so gave it a fair shake. I made it to maybe halfway through episode 5 and ... nah, not going to happen. Either I am 25 years too old to find this funny, or maybe it's just not funny. Probably a combination.

tbf Josh you do have consistently terrible opinions

first episode still the best of this season imo but i like the more complex plots. overall def worse than s1 and s2 (nothing this season has been as funny as KEEP. SUMMER. SAFE.) but still one of the best shows

Either I am 25 years too old to find this funny

i definitely don't think of this as a show that appeals primarily to v young ppl

No, I agree with that, I was just being flip. I just meant the fleeting stuff in it meant to be funny I didn't think was very funny, just non sequitur wannabe shocking.

is the new season out?

fwiw i dont think BJH really picks up until the end s1

omnis sequitur, pillock

Watching the seasons in reverse order has worked for me over the last few days.

is the new season out?

Available this Friday I believe

s3's finale pulls off emotional/tone whiplash better than almost anything I've seen in recent memory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE_wuidUzzM

I love how sparing this show is with uh, "foul language" or whatever. Swearing isn't inherently funny, which a lot of shows seem to assume, and this show only throws it in when necessary, which weighs it SO much more. Tbh though this is basically a drama with comedic elements and comparing it to the average sweary comedy seems odd. It's also odd to have the only relatable show on tv that deals with depression/addiction be a cartoon about an asshole horse (as noted above) but I'll take what's available. It's not the first time I've felt voiced by Will Annett.

*there should be a "isn't the" in there somewhere.

Lol also "case". I've been pulling a BoJack tonight, soz