Justice League (DC 2017 film)

The only one I watch is Flash, and to the extent it ever crosses over with the other DC shows I can mentally fill in the blanks pretty easily without having to watch the others. This isn't exactly Proust.

When Flash is good, it's the best of those DC shows; when it's bad it's STOP SPINNING YOUR WHEELS AND GET ON WITH IT.

DC's top movie would rank #5 if included in Marvel's list.

MCU is also stomping on the X-Men:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=xmen.htm

Yeah, Marvel easily making a profit on something like Doctor Strange is what DC would die for. I don't quite know what the equivalent would be, perhaps a Shazam film. But so far DC has had to use their big guns, Superman, Batman, the Joker. When, of course, it's Wonder Woman who has been the big hit. It's hard to say what they should do at this point to turn it around, but planning four Joker-films at once (yes, four, according to gizmodo it's Scorceses Joker, Suicide Squad 2, Joker & Harley Quinn, Gotham City Sirens, all planning to use the joker)

Also, I haven't seen Doctor Strange, but it's supposedly not great, but not bad. That sweet spot is something DC can't seem to hit.

The Marvel movies have an edge over the DC movies in that you see the heroes figuring out their powers/capabilities as the stories go along rather than coming straight out of the gate as masters of flight/combat/tactics/what have you. For every character like Thor or Scarlet Witch, who appear on screen in full command of their powers and just straight up wrecking shit, you have offsetting characters like Ant Man and Spider Man, who are clearly new to the superhero game and make tactical mistakes or have to figure out a new use for their powers in the middle of a fight. It brings a level of relatability into these movies that DC's general god-mode doesn't have and probably factors into the charisma bump the Marvel movies get over the DC movies.

^^ And when the DCU did try to do that with Man of Steel they absolutely FUBARed it.

Doctor Strange was bad fyi

xp

Like you think any of the films are good

For the record, I would go to a dog for advice on putting together a complimentary color palette before I went to Shakey for opinions on the quality of MCU movies.

http://img-aws.ehowcdn.com/640/ds-photo/getty/article/99/191/532221225_XS.jpg

"This is my latest phase."

Looooool, DJP OTM.

doctor strange was pretty bad tho

and my MCU stan cred is impeccable

tbf yeah p bad movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-DM9uBtVI

why the 90s alt rock cover of "Heroes"? i would rather hear the Bowie original, this just reminds me of TV shows and commercials that go the low budget route and get some random band to cover a Beatles song. then again, didn't they just have another trailer for this with "Come Together"? Thor has the real Led Zeppelin, Guardians of the Galaxy has real 10cc. get your shit together DC. this is embarassing.

this goes for everything else about this trailer (bad cgi, lame mugging, where is this mars? Aquaman can fly now??? i guess there is water in the air...). feels cheap and expensive at the same time, like someone just shit out a bucket of money.

on the plus side we get to look forward to a team of heroes fighting yet another endless faceless army

I know It's some Fourth World shit or whatever but having them fight a loaf of manbees was not a good choice

Looks horrendous obv

god help poor amy adams, appearing for the third time in an utterly thankless supporting role

that's what the money's for

boy does this feel like some also-ran shit. I'm guessing another reprise of Wonder Woman will be the only draw.

So red and bro-tastic! YEAAHHHHH!

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/justice-league-review

stoked for the madness

is it just me or has there been less of a marketing juggernaut around this than usual? i’d pretty much forgotten this was out this week until i saw a billboard yesterday

Wait, it's out this week? Would never have guessed. Saw the trailer before Thor and that's the extent I've seen.

I'm partially expecting an embargoed 'secret' final third, like BVS was supposed to have and pulled off to a degree (the WW reveal and the big Doomsday fight), with a resurrected Superman and Darkseid.

Justice League more like Enabler League

afaict the Big Reveal is going to be that Superman isn't really dead which uh... wow guys, who could see that one coming?

Out this week?! I don't think I've even seen a trailer or commercial or ad for it. Like if asked, I would've guessed that it was coming next summer or something. Bravo, WB.

thrilled to see this movie starring a batman who groped a woman on tv and was tight with harvey weinstein, a wonder woman who’s only just been accused of horrible behaviour in the wake of a friend’s rape and a co-director who apparently preyed on the young, attractive stars of his popular tv shows

oh and an alfred who thinks gay marriage should be outlawed because it’ll encourage men to marry their sons for tax reasons

ok wow THAT is a take I had not heard before (re: Irons)

To be fair, if this were my son, the thought would enter my mind as well:

https://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2015/02/26/max-irons-teaser1.jpg

just remembered ilx’s ‘gay marriage to alfred: your thoughts’ thread and now i have some thoughts

thrilled to see this movie starring a batman who groped a woman on tv and was tight with harvey weinstein

and the opening to BvS has him saving women from a sex dungeon ffs. real hero right here

i saw one of these billboards yesterday

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BcUA-1jH1Eo/Wf4p-XLXEiI/AAAAAAACpns/E2TiJ1Fq55o9IrB2OYYr7ZvqgvSZPi5JwCLcBGAs/s800/justice%2Bleague%2Bmovie%2Bbillboard.jpg

how would anyone ever notice this gloomy ass lineup of a poster? they're lit about as well as harry lime in a vienna doorway.

my awareness of this film is pretty nil while w/Thor: Ragnarok i was aware of so much of the film: cast, basic premise, the look of the film, the good jokes, etc. and that's just from passively coming across it.

Wait, what's this about Gal Gadot? Hadn't heard about that and can't find any info elsewhere.

That poster is on the side of loads of London busses at the moment so I've studied it a fair bit. If they're going for bold and heroic then why is it so dull? If they're going for dark and serious why are they all wearing such stupid outfits? Isn't being good at mythic visuals supposed to be Snyder's 'thing'? Horendous.

it looks like they're trying for Alex Ross irl but it's just crowded & static

it looks like they're annoyed that it's taking so long for the elevator to get to the top floor.

And Aquaman's farted.

Re Gadot, there's this

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonwells/medium-post-gal-gadot?utm_term=.fvrA0V88n#.sypgoVrr9

Can we take this opportunity to bash Rotten Tomatoes some more? They're now holding off on revealing scores for selected movies. Also relevant is that Warner Bros. owns 30% of RT. O_o

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/11/14/16648850/justice-league-rotten-tomatoes-score

just one more reason to destroy RT

DCEU fanboys slay me

the Zune tattoo of fandoms

Three guesses as to who wrote this sentence, and the first two don't count: 'It’s one of those wondrous Zack Snyder extravaganzas that fulfill the aesthetic potential of comic-book graphics and achieves essential cinema kinetics."

Answer.

say what u like about armond, at least he’s consistent

please inscribe this on my headstone

Like Sternberg, Snyder can similarly shift into grave spirituality (profound metaphor), as he does in the expanded-time sequence where Batman loses his catapult gun and Wonder Woman loses her sword

Is it wrong of me to want to see another DC train wreck over a competent but generic Marvel movie?

Probably. Why watch either

I got Moviepass so now that money ain't a thang, I am seeing this movie solely so I can aggravate my butthurt DC friends by saying it sucks.

and also throw candy at people in the 2nd row and blame it on the person I'm with

This was fine, even good! My standards for this kind of stuff isn't very high. But you know, if you absolutely hated Batman vs. Superman you should probably stay home like you were going to anyway.

Oops, dammit. I didn't mean to leave all that pasted in.

too late, you now must watch nothing but the Snyder Cut for the rest of the weekend

let's just accept that I The Secret-ed jon's vaccination into manifesting and have a mod delete everyone's all our posts

lol at the people of earth burying their mother box in a four-foot hole in the woods

Put a bit of effort in lads

I just found out that the guy who plays the scientist who kills himself is the same guy who played the scientist who kills himself in Terminator 2.

yes they hired miles dyson to play miles dyson, one of my favorite things about the movie lol

Woo boy.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/ray-fisher-opens-up-about-justice-league-joss-whedon-and-warners-i-dont-believe-some-of-these-people-are-fit-for-leadership

Among other things:

The tension only escalated when the issue of having Cyborg say "booyah" arose. That phrase had become a signature of the character thanks to the animated Teen Titans shows, but the character had never said it in the comics or in the original script. Fisher says that Johns had approached Snyder about including the line, but the director didn't want any catchphrases. He managed the situation by putting the word on some signs in his version of the film, as an Easter egg. But Johns' rep says the entire studio believed the booyah line was "a fun moment of synergy."

Fisher says he doesn't see the word in itself as an issue, but he thought it played differently in a live-action film than the animated series. And he thought of Black characters in pop culture with defining phrases: Gary Coleman's "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?"; Jimmie Walker's "Dy-no-mite!" As no one else in the film had a catchphrase, he says, "It seemed weird to have the only Black character say that."

With reshoots underway, Fisher says Whedon raised the issue again: "Geoff tells me Cyborg has a catchphrase," he told him. Fisher says he expressed his objections and it seemed the matter was dropped — until Berg, the co-chairman of DC Films and a producer on the project, took him to dinner.

"This is one of the most expensive movies Warners has ever made," Berg said, according to Fisher. "What if the CEO of AT&T has a son or daughter, and that son or daughter wants Cyborg to say 'booyah' in the movie and we don't have a take of that? I could lose my job." Fisher responded that he knew if he filmed the line, it would end up in the movie. And he expressed skepticism that the film's fate rested on Cyborg saying "booyah."

But he shot the take. As he arrived on set, he says, Whedon stretched out his arms and said a line from Hamlet in a mocking tone: "Speak the speech, I pray you, as I pronounced it to you." Fisher replied, "Joss — don't. I'm not in the mood." As he left the set after saying just that one phrase for the cameras, he says, Whedon called out, "Nice work, Ray."

Hooooly shit. In a single wild statement, Geoff Johns used his Black First Wife, Asian Second Wife, and Mixed Race Son as political body shields https://t.co/ng9ooQcprS

— Allison Kilkenny (@allisonkilkenny) April 6, 2021

Also, he's pals with Akira Yoshida.

But Johns' rep says the entire studio believed the booyah line was "a fun moment of synergy."

"this is a dog who gets biz-zay, consistently and thoroughly"

Remember how the Bale Batmans had all of the 'POW! ZAP!' onscreen graphics whenever he fought dudes, same thing basically

Patterson Batman better have Bat Shark Repellant, is all I'm saying.

Is there a Flash thread for the 2023 film? Anyway, just watched this expecting to turn it off -30 minutes in. The opposite! I thought it had a good heart and actually honored its comic book origins. Ezra Miller's schtick is what it is, the cameos/callbacks are fun and, wonky as it is much of the time, i found this way more entertaining than the Spiderman film that mined a similar Multiverse Blah Blah vein a few years ago.

You had me until the end there - the three-Spider-man / Molina / Dafoe / Foxx film was great fun, I thought.

I enjoyed the Spidey film but thought this one was less "movie fan service-y", more "let's do something you'll find in a fun, goofy DC comics mini-series".