KLF - did they rock you?

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yeah, following the badger kull twitter blitz is fun.
clearly part of the 'project' is to get a new band out there without any help from the usual suspects, or even a real band,
but watching it all develop is rather entertaining.

mark e, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

https://youtu.be/btPZhr4FYew

naus, Saturday, 26 August 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

yeah, saw that this morning ..
have to admit, its a rather wonderful thing.

mark e, Saturday, 26 August 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

yeah fab

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 26 August 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

that's Jeff Minter in the back row (somewhere)

koogs, Sunday, 27 August 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

Jarvis Cocker?

Did he sing?

Now, we've told him about this..

Mark G, Sunday, 27 August 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

Anyone read their new book?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 28 August 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link

what? https://mumufication.com/

StanM, Monday, 28 August 2017 08:36 (six years ago) link

GREAT question, well put.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 28 August 2017 09:57 (six years ago) link

No book on that website, but ta for the link.

Mark G, Monday, 28 August 2017 11:16 (six years ago) link

the book is on Faber², can't imagine it will be hard to find in UK bookshops

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 28 August 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link

Those excerpt from the book in theGuardian at the weekend were not good

i know kore-eda (or something), Monday, 28 August 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

for a rundown on each days events, this girl (the tattoo girl) has given the proceedings a good shot :

http://planetslop.co.uk/?s=klf

still not so sure i would have enjoyed any of the corporate styled team building exercises.

mark e, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

for example : http://www.2019warisover.com/

student rag week taken to the extreme.
still, the jarvis thing + ritual burning thing, does sound rather cool.
and i have actually contemplated the ashes/brick thing once i had a good read around that website.
it does all sound rather legit.

mark e, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

strictly kev post #1 is up :

http://www.djfood.org/welcome-to-the-dark-ages-pt-1-tuesday-2023-book-stamping/

mark e, Monday, 28 August 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

i realise for a lot of people this gang can do no wrong ...

but i think this is an arsey move

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq6XJl9xw80

mark e, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

bugger.
the link is in kevs latest post.
with a followup to the outcome.

mark e, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

I have one question: what the fuuk is going on?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

The driver of the car seemed to be smiling. Don't think he minded. Could be wrong though.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

Ah, just read the blog post. Does seem to be a dick move. Situationist art is all well and good when it's your own property you're using, but if there was no coordination with the car owner, this was pretty poor form.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

yeah .. car owner was not happy.
he confronted jimmy later in the day, and it was uncomfortable by all accounts.
more to be revealed by all involved later on i believe.
that said, i love the postscript on kevs post.

mark e, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

I do not know what the fuck to make of this 2023 book, or even if I'll read it, or why I should read it ... joke's on me, I guess?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

Is it more like a Bad Wisdoming of Drummond's last 5-10 books, an actual novel, or just an Illuminatus knockoff? Hasn't been published here (I'm surprised it's in Chicago already!)

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Friday, 1 September 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link

I literally can't tell what it is. It's hard to tell what is supposed to be a put on, or is it all a put on, does it have a plot? I've only skimmed bits of it, but it's very ... conceptual? It's novel-esque but features plenty of direct and oblique KLF mythology, from the Bunnymen on up. Just really intimidating.

I bought a "used" copy online via Amazon, just arrived today. There is literally one review on Amazon right now, a five-star review. The complete text is "I am amused."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 September 2017 01:20 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-klf-album-by-single-by-album.692361/

I do recommend this one, a KLF rundown.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 09:18 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

Something's going down in Mumuland.

https://mumufication.com/

Dan Worsley, Friday, 24 August 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

xpost, just discovered the Steve Hoffman forum thread on them, essential reading for any KLFhead.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 21 December 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link

Though think he's wrong about 'Whitney Joins the JAMMs'.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 21 December 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link

I hang out there, but don't want to have to trawl through the thread.

is there a problem with 'Whitney ..' ??

mark e, Friday, 21 December 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

yeah that thread is a great read.

visiting, Friday, 21 December 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

xpost, he's a bit sniffy about it, rating it as an annoying novelty song. Which I suppose it is, but I find the concept very amusing and the punchline whene she 'joins' the JAMMs utterly joyous.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 21 December 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

ta Dan, as I expected.
it was a glorious moment in which the guys declared their love for dance music as opposed to the JAMMS hip hop origins.
for me that 12" was a massively defining release as I too was a hip hop kid, but getting bored with the genre.
so to hear a 12" that hit the house groove using a song I hated was a big wake up and opened my ears to a whole new world.
its anything but a novelty, it was the perfect bridge from JAMMS to the KLF.

mark e, Friday, 21 December 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link

and yes .. "joyous" is the perfect word for it.

mark e, Friday, 21 December 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

haha.
sorry, old habits die hard.

mark e, Friday, 21 December 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

Whoops!

Dan Worsley, Friday, 21 December 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

6 part BBC radio drama “How to Burn a Million Quid”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06x3pn5

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 21:56 (five years ago) link

.. and Bill Drummond's response ( received via email, this morning)

The JAMs don’t do Sidekicks

You are either in The JAMs or you are not in The JAMs.

In an English national newspaper in January 2019, there was a short piece about a podcast called How To Burn A Million Quid. It would have been written by a journalist just trying to get a job done.

A job that they might not have been thinking that much about.

A job that needed a sprinkling of adjectives etc to spice it up.

In this short piece Jimmy Cauty, my colleague of some thirty years and counting, was passingly defined as a sidekick. I don’t think I have ever known someone to be less of a sidekick than Jimmy Cauty. But even more important than that – The JAMs don’t do sidekicks.

The media often make assumptions about the roles of those working in creative partnerships. This is often done for the sake of the story that is being told. And we all want our stories to be simply understood. We want to know who the baddy is and who the goody is from the moment the film starts etc…

Over those thirty years and counting that Jimmy Cauty and I have been working together most of the memorable things that we have done as The JAMs started as a passing suggestion by Jimmy Cauty. This is a list of some of those suggestions:

1: Including ABBA's Dancing Queen on the album 1987 – What The Fuck's Going On?

2: Using the Doctor Who theme in a pop song and combining it with the glitter beat

3: Creating The KLF crop circle in Wiltshire

4: Using the cash from Doctorin’ The Tardis to make a road movie

5: Creating a KLF wicker man on the isle of Jura

6: Performing a metal version of 3AM and using a machine gun at the Brits

7: Deleting the KLF catalogue

8: Burying the Brit award at Stonehenge

9: The 1994 K Foundation award for worst artist

10: Burning the money

But the narrative that seems to keep coming up time and time again, is that Bill Drummond comes up with the unrealistic ideas and Jimmy Cauty has to use practical skills to make them a reality. Or that it is me that comes up with the words and Jimmy Cauty comes up with the tunes.

Wrong…

When I got my first guitar at the age of 15, and after I had done the Bert Weedon Play in a Daybook, I bought the Bob Dylan Song Book and learnt the chord structure of every song in it. And from there I went to learn the chord structures of every hit that Goffin & King had ever written. And it is that knowledge I used in the basic structures of almost all of The KLF tracks. Whereas when Jimmy Cauty got his first guitar he learnt every riff that Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page had ever played. And it was with that understanding and knowledge he was able to create the riffs in almost all of The KLF tracks.

In any creative partnership there is no simple black and white. The sum is always greater than the parts.

Neither of us could have ever done it with anyone else.

I hoped I would never have to talk about The KLF again in my life, let alone find myself writing about it, but that line in that newspaper has prompted this outburst.

The JAMs don’t do sidekicks.

Bill Drummond 30 January 2019

Mark G, Thursday, 31 January 2019 12:27 (five years ago) link

awesome

nxd, Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link

Did BBC edit that blurb, cos I don't see the word "sidekick" or anything equivalent there?

Tuomas, Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:27 (five years ago) link

It wasn't the podcast itself he's referring to, the English national newspaper piece is here: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jan/25/what-made-the-klf-burn-a-million-pounds-podcasts-of-the-week?CMP=share_btn_tw

willem, Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

I managed to get a copy of "2023", the "novel" that is seemingly authored by the KLF.

Despite the Amazon reviewer suggesting it's "probably" more the work of Drummond that Cauty (once again)..

I find that it's quite an entertaining read. The Amz reviews are either 1 star or 5, but hey. Also, most say it's "inpenetrable", but who wants to penetrate a book?

Mark G, Monday, 13 May 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

hey don't knock it etc etc

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Monday, 13 May 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link

!

Mark G, Monday, 13 May 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

just ordered it since it's like 50% off on Amazon... hope it's better than the Julian Cope novel from a few years back

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 13 May 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

probably" more the work of Drummond that Cauty (once again)..


You are either in The JAMs or you are not in The JAMs.

In an English national newspaper in January 2019, there was a short piece about a podcast called How To Burn A Million Quid. It would have been written by a journalist just trying to get a job done.

A job that they might not have been thinking that much about.

A job that needed a sprinkling of adjectives etc to spice it up.

In this short piece Jimmy Cauty, my colleague of some thirty years and counting, was passingly defined as a sidekick. I don’t think I have ever known someone to be less of a sidekick than Jimmy Cauty. But even more important than that – The JAMs don’t do sidekicks.

The media often make assumptions about the roles of those working in creative partnerships. This is often done for the sake of the story that is being told. And we all want our stories to be simply understood. We want to know who the baddy is and who the goody is from the moment the film starts etc…

Over those thirty years and counting that Jimmy Cauty and I have been working together most of the memorable things that we have done as The JAMs started as a passing suggestion by Jimmy Cauty. This is a list of some of those suggestions:
Including ABBA’s Dancing Queen on the album 1987 – What The Fuck’s Going On?
Using the Doctor Who theme in a pop song and combining it with the glitter beat
Creating The KLF crop circle in Wiltshire
Using the cash from Doctorin’ The Tardis to make a road movie
Creating a KLF wicker man on the isle of Jura
Performing a metal version of 3AM and using a machine gun at the Brits
Deleting the KLF catalogue
Burying the Brit award at Stonehenge
The 1994 K Foundation award for worst artist
Burning the money

But the narrative that seems to keep coming up time and time again, is that Bill Drummond comes up with the unrealistic ideas and Jimmy Cauty has to use practical skills to make them a reality. Or that it is me that comes up with the words and Jimmy Cauty comes up with the tunes.

Wrong…

When I got my first guitar at the age of 15, and after I had done the Bert Weedon Play in a Daybook, I bought the Bob Dylan Song Book and learnt the chord structure of every song in it. And from there I went to learn the chord structures of every hit that Goffin & King had ever written. And it is that knowledge I used in the basic structures of almost all of The KLF tracks. Whereas when Jimmy Cauty got his first guitar he learnt every riff that Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page had ever played. And it was with that understanding and knowledge he was able to create the riffs in almost all of The KLF tracks.

In any creative partnership there is no simple black and white. The sum is always greater than the parts.

Neither of us could have ever done it with anyone else.

I hoped I would never have to talk about The KLF again in my life, let alone find myself writing about it, but that line in that newspaper has prompted this outburst.

The JAMs don’t do sidekicks.

Bill Drummond 30 January 2019

blokes you can't rust (sic), Monday, 13 May 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Don't let weedy St Etienne kick out the JAMs – vote for It's Grim Up North

Group III.13: I've never felt so strong

Saint Etienne! https://t.co/v7roiHGtFX
Grace Jones! https://t.co/OJvy6fF86v
New Order! https://t.co/KkyIMe586q
The JAMS! https://t.co/8YN780vt4p

— Tom Ewing (@tomewing) May 21, 2020

Alba, Friday, 22 May 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

I mean, I like all these tracks but the top two go through and St Etienne are well represented elsewhere.

Alba, Friday, 22 May 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

Also there's at least one other better Saint Et song still in the game (Avenue)

nashwan, Friday, 22 May 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link


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