HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

I thought that everybody up to thhe invention of the steam train thought that there were limits to how fast you could travel healthily.

Possibly in our world. Doesn't mean the same is true in Westeros.

Yeah is it concievable they could go as fast as planes?

No, it's not inconceivable. But they would have to show it. Anything is possible if we just say 'a wizard did it'. But that makes a worse show.

We're not saying 'a wizard dd it'. We're saying, 'these dragons, which have already been shown as being able to fly quite fast, can fly really fast'.

the dragons can fly backward in time, like in the second 'dragonlance' trilogy maybe

Westeros has a high altitude super fast air-current which flows in a narrow loop from north to south and back again. It's called Jon's Raven's News Round.

Did we ever get any hint at how fast the ravens travel? Messages sent by Raven always seemed to get around pretty fast. I would assume a dragon is faster.

dragon do a lot more circling and showing off

i'll post this again

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/6u75t3/lets_do_the_math_on_how_long_it_would_take_a/

Damn I forgot about the raven having to get to Dragonstone too. I contend a dragon would travel much faster than a raven though.

i am v cool with ppl not caring about how dumb it was, but ppl trying to prove it wasn't dumb is fucking ridiculous

I think it was dumb, but I think it can be waved away just about convincingly. And I enjoy wasting time figuring out the speed of fictional animals and stuff. Other things bother me far more about GoT at the moment, eg terrible dialogue and really weird pacing.

yeah, all the logistics of these things can be explained away and I don't think the show necessarily has to explain it to the viewer.

What bothers me way more is a bunch of characters who are supposed to be smart making a series of dumb decisions just so the show can introduce an ice dragon. This is the kind of stuff that did not happen in seasons 1-4.

I mean, above all my issue is that the dialogue has gotten fucking awful, or I've only just started noticing that it's awful. The opening 10 mins of Sunday's ep were painful.

probably just remaking the same points but i think point is the show taught us to care about these minutiae for 4-5 seasons then told us to piss in the wind for the last 2

going to beautifully harmonious with grrm dying and some hack fantasy jobber finishing the books

is that the view on how wheel of time played out?

This thread has turned into

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xp i have no idea tbh but the guy who finished those is decent in his own right at least. jokes aside i am sure they would get someone passable in.

re: the dragons, it also feels like HBO paid $20 million for a dragon model they can insert to any scene at will and the people who did it for them said "if you think that's cool, check out this skin that makes it look like an ice dragon - we just need to flip this switch" and HBO said cool how can we get this onto the show.

looking on the bright side, I fucking love the Beric actor's voice so much. It's a kind of voice you don't hear onscreen anymore; he sounds like he could be delivering the omens in some late Hammer or Tigon pastoral horror film.

would speculate D&D own a gravy stained napkin that reads

ice dragon!
aunt and nephew bone
george sam becomes king

otm about Beric's voice.

looking on the bright side, I fucking love the Beric actor's voice so much. It's a kind of voice you don't hear onscreen anymore; he sounds like he could be delivering the omens in some late Hammer or Tigon pastoral horror film.

― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:03 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

then you'll love Fortitude

Apparently there's a high rising airstream that runs in a tight loop North to South of Westeros. It's called Jon's Raven's News Round.

Westeros has a high altitude super fast air-current which flows in a narrow loop from north to south and back again. It's called Jon's Raven's News Round.

A+++++++

oops. didn't realise i already posted that. bah

jokes are always better the second time round, eh?

Like last night's takeaway curry leftovers for breakfast.

yeah Beric's voice is pretty awesome, hope he hangs onto that one life for awhile.

given that there's not much logic or consistency with accents on the show it's lame when irish actors can't use their own accents (roose the only exception i think?) but funny that beric & davos have two of the best accents

Davos' Geordie twang is excellent, but makes zero sense as every other poor King's Landinger has a cockney-ish accent.

that scene posted above is really good but also reminds me that those were/are two of the best actors on the show--and most of the younger cast really falls flat for me. i can't remember if i liked the actor who played robb or not. i know it was necessary but they killed off so many of the best actors: charles dance, diana rigg, the guy who played stannis, even oberyn and joffrey! that kid was great.

of course this sort of thing would matter far less if the plotting/narrative was more satisfying.

the characters that i enjoy at this point are basically the hound and davos. cersei was great until recently but it feels like her arc ended last season and now she's just big boss.

i can't remember if i liked the actor who played robb or not

Me neither; speaks volumes.

I mean, above all my issue is that the dialogue has gotten fucking awful

second the recommendation for all Beric lovers to watch Fortititude which is insane.

Is the only reason they are wrapping things up so quickly that they don't want to have to renegotiate contracts? Seems like this show would have benefited from another season or two.

is s2 of Fortitude any good? I liked s1 but felt it might have been better off as a mini.

i'm enjoying this season a lot, none of the acting bothers me tbh. but there's something to be said for the way the show was so intricate and sinister in those first several seasons, just the way the webs would close around characters or the story would progress leading up to massive events. like Ned going to King's Landing, the red wedding, Blackwater Bay, etc. those seasons were paced pretty perfectly and the slow bits were valuable at building characters up and building the world. i went from that perfect pacing to inconsistent pacing to entire episodes of characters pacing, and now entire episodes of fast-paced action. i don't care too much, this is the best season since 4. if it's going to turn into a big insane show about zombies with a dragon vs the entire population of westeros and 2 dragons, it's all good with me.

still think they whiffed on not using Lady Stoneheart, they're so far from the books now that they might as well have done so. she'd be a pretty ill character if done right, this vengeful fucked up looking banshee.

Yeah, I would probably agree that this is the best season since 4.

still think they whiffed on not using Lady Stoneheart

enh I agreed with the producers when they were like "we're not bringing back Michelle Fairley just to do that"

well i mean we had four episodes consisting of nothing but awkward pauses involving Tyrion and Grey Worm and Missandei, they could have brought back Stoneheart in an expanded, more interesting role.

going to beautifully harmonious with grrm dying and some hack fantasy jobber finishing the books

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:53 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is that the view on how wheel of time played out?

― 龜, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:56

i have no idea tbh but the guy who finished those is decent in his own right at least. jokes aside i am sure they would get someone passable in.

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:00

I get the impression that Sanderson was supposed to be better than Jordan. I think Martin rejected the possibility of someone else finishing the series.

Trying not to fall off a speeding dragon for hours after all those days of fighting, starving, walking, freezing and sleep deprivation must be really shit.

Staying on a flying dragon is the hardest thing for me to buy. A harness seat and some pouches for the men to sit inside would would be nice.

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I can't even enjoy The Hound much because his scripts have been weak.

I'm kind of surprised how far the dragon action goes for ILX. Because for me that stuff is only ever as good as the storytelling is. Special effects aren't good enough yet for dragon action to be enjoyable in itself. Since the storytelling has suffered so much, the spectacle loses its charge.

The dragons have always looked great. Find it extraordinary that some people aren't convinced by them, particularly as Sean Bean provided the motion capture.

x-post: Well, normally that's true, but a lot of the spectacle this season is payoff to the storytelling done years ago by the show - or by GRRM decades ago, at this point. Seeing dragons and Dothraki attack the Lannisters was kinda plotted as muddled as the rest of the season, but there was so much thematically about how the old orders are getting broken by new reality that it made it's point. Seeing horse riders coming out of the fire was a great payoff to everything the show has said about feudal structures and the value of knights.

robert jordan RIP but sanderson finished up 'the wheel of time' like a pro ace coming in in the 7th inning and saving a game. the 300-page final battle in the last book is completely fucking awesome, the battle of the pelennor fields on mushrooms. fingers crossed benioff / weiss kick it into sanderson's gear next season as the finale approaches

yeah sanderson did alright. for some masochistic reason i missed jordan's voice a bit but it was a satisfying ending. however,i'll echo what i said above about fantasy as a genre having a tough time with endings.

david gemmell is an exception but yeah there's a lot of stephen king syndrome in fantasists trying to stick landings