clayton kershaw is expected to make his triple-a debut saturday in oklahoma city
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 03:12 (six years ago) link
What was the true nature of Kershaw's crap start?
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20669761/clayton-kershaw-thin-line-one-bad-start-catastrophe
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
Altherred history
https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2017/9/18/16331508/dodgers-clayton-kershaw-first-grand-slam-phillies-aaron-altherr
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 11:48 (six years ago) link
the streak lives
Kershaw's career ERA after each season of his career:4.263.363.172.882.792.602.482.432.372.36https://t.co/UUjKUuvBAH— Ben Lindbergh (@BenLindbergh) October 1, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
Hannah HochevarFun to watch the Kershaw arm angle last night. Seemed like he dropped down a few times again. Announcers were saying that some of his problems this year are due to hitters being more geared for low balls in general. Agree?
Jeff SullivanHe's worked lower than he usually does this season. Not that his season was in any way bad. And I don't have a good explanation for the postseason dingers, aside from, welpThe drop-down slot continues to intrigue me, because it's interesting while also not being so helpful. Kershaw hasn't pitched all that well from the second arm slot, but he's still doing it in the playoffs, suggesting that he thinks it's worth the trickDid it four times last night. Two strikes, all fastballs, all elevated
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
Dallas Cankle: If Clayton Kershaw opts-out next year what’s the highest Farhan Friedman goes before saying uncle?
Paul Swydan: I think that’ll actually be a really interesting discussion. They don’t seem like the kind of front office who will be swayed by sentiment, and if Kershaw has back problems for a third consecutive season in 2018, I could see the Dodgers not making much of an effort to keep him at all.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
what's up
https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/pitcher-spotlight-the-crack-in-clayton-kershaws-armor/
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 April 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link
just came to post that story. something I've been noticing and dreading for a year or so now
― k3vin k., Monday, 21 May 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link
Welp:
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23664559/los-angeles-dodgers-ace-clayton-kershaw-mri-back-tightens-1st-game-back
All 20 of Clayton Kershaw's four-seam fastballs were 90.0 mph or slower in his outing Thursday night, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Last year, not a single one of his 1,142 four-seam fastballs was 90.0 mph or slower.
― omar little, Friday, 1 June 2018 03:45 (five years ago) link
yikes
― k3vin k., Friday, 1 June 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link
His back was giving him problems though. He probably returned too soon.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link
Seems like he is back for at least a month on the DL.
What a bummer.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:51 (five years ago) link
Won his 150th this afternoon.
Hard to know where he's at right now. He hasn't been as dominant this year, but he has been surprisingly consistent. His WHIP and K/BB ratios are back where they were four or five years ago, before he started posting off-the-chart numbers; his ERA and ERA+ match his career line. In 18 starts, he's given four runs once, three runs twice, no runs twice, and all the rest were one or two runs--as I say, consistent. His average Game Score is 60; in his MVP year, it was 70. If he gets healthy and settles in where he is right now, that'd be fine; no longer the best pitcher in baseball, but consistently one of the five or six best. "If he gets healthy," though, contains a lot--he's had three abbreviated seasons in a row.
― clemenza, Monday, 20 August 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link
adjusting
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/clayton-kershaws-disappearing-fastball/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 September 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
kershaw trivia: the only time his mouth is not hanging wide open is when he's delivering a pitch
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 02:52 (five years ago) link
off that point a bit, Morbs, it is interesting to see the top SPs in MLB this year and how the vast majority of them don't just have more strikeouts than innings pitched, but substantially more to what must be a historic degree. and Kershaw of all people is one of the comparative few from that group whose Ks are less than 9 per 9 IP.
― omar little, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link
He's been on the DL twice this year. Can't remember the last time he had a healthy season tbqh... 2015? or '13?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
...posted in "Stay Healthy, Please: The Clayton Kershaw Thread" lol
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
I must bear the responsibility for putting the curse on him.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
Kristen: Kershaw has been trending downwards the past few seasons in terms of FIP, FB velocity, SwStr%, Hard Hit%, etc. Add his contract demands and is it possible his market won’t be huge after all?
Jay Jaffe: His market may not even be bigger than the team that still has exclusive rights to negotiate with him. But the extended negotiating period signals that he’d prefer to stay, and I think it’s just a matter of finding the right number. The Dodgers are clearly comfortable paying a premium to keep him.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 November 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
his hardest fastball in game five was 91 mph : /
― mookieproof, Thursday, 1 November 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
Peak Kershaw clearly history, but can he still be a co-ace?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 November 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link
he's still pretty good, just not $35m good. especially if he's going to miss 6-10 starts each year. ehh, the dodgers can afford it
i think buehler's the ace now, tho
― mookieproof, Thursday, 1 November 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
best decision from kershaw's perspective would seem to be extending his deal with dodgers, for sure. i'll be kind of shocked if he signs with any other team
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 November 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link
i'm not writing Kershaw off quite yet, he's young and a guy like Verlander had his Cy Young peak, went through worse, and bounced back to peak form.
― omar little, Thursday, 1 November 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
he's obviously no kershaw, but i'm interested to see what happens with bumgarner too. year and a half younger, but his peripherals have declined even more. the giants have a $12m team option for 2019 at the end of an *extremely* team-friendly contract and i don't think he'll get the contract, at age 30, that he was expecting three years ago
the giants should obviously trade him but they'll probably sign sabathia, bring back marco scutaro and give the boys one more shot
― mookieproof, Thursday, 1 November 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
i think sabathia stays w nyy on some kind of mutual wakefield-type deal
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 2 November 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link
I'd say Kershaw's back is probably more a drag on his effectiveness than losing some speed on his fastball. He still has top level control and movement.
I kinda think CC pitches, it will be for the Yanks or I could see Cleveland maybe reaching out to maybe finish career where it started.
― earlnash, Friday, 2 November 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link
@Ken_RosenthalKershaw: “I am throwing slower. I know that. And I don’t know if that’s going to be for the rest of my career, either. I firmly believe that I can get that back and I’m going to spend a lot of time this off-season working on that.”
― mookieproof, Friday, 2 November 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link
did anyone say how Verlander got his velocity "back"? cuz i'm not aware of that happening for anyone else.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 November 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
this is baseball's greatest mystery for me -- i can understand how players can be faster than me, or make better contact, or hit the ball farther, etc. i don't understand how they throw so fucking hard
the astros have that reliever, josh james, who supposedly added 5+ mph to his fastball after getting his sleep apnea treated. i don't understand that either
― mookieproof, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
Verlander's case was a weird one, maybe it was because the injuries he suffered during that time were more easily manageable? The core muscle surgery, the triceps strain...I'm no doctor, but maybe those are not so much the types of issues that'll have long-term effects.
― omar little, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
knowing nothing at all, i'll just bullshit and say "it's all in the wrist"
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
Health and mechanical tweaks.
xpost
― Andy K, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
And some other stuff.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2790162-the-road-that-brought-justin-verlander-back
― Andy K, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
three years, $93m
so he gets an extra year and $28m more guaranteed, will be a free agent following his age-33 season
― mookieproof, Friday, 2 November 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link
― mookieproof, Friday, November 2, 2018 11:53 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Body is less tired, muscles have more explosion, etc
Sleep apnea is shit.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 3 November 2018 02:02 (five years ago) link
yeah i have some sleep issues too but the specific correlation to a significant bump in fastball speed is astonishing
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 November 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link
I have always wanted to be in a batter's box i just see how it feels like having a 100 mph ball coming towards you.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 3 November 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link
No idea where you live but most cages will have a machine that hits 90 or so.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 3 November 2018 03:42 (five years ago) link
it's not really the same. the old machines with the levers are better, but the ones with the two tires give you no sense of timing
at least you know it's probably not going to hit you . . . unless you have a sadistic coach who's torqued up the two wheels. rip jack heimbuecher
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 November 2018 03:53 (five years ago) link
I'm a bit confused by the Kershaw deal -- the one extra year doesn't give him much security. Wouldn't he want to hit free agency a year earlier and stand a better chance at getting a good 3-4 year deal when he's 32, rather than 33?
I guess the logic is that if he opted out now, would he get 3-4 years for 100 million total (=what he'll get from the extension)? He must think the answer is no.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 3 November 2018 04:26 (five years ago) link
yeah i'm not sure he'd get a better deal, plus he and the dodgers love each other
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 November 2018 04:45 (five years ago) link
― mookieproof, Friday, November 2, 2018 4:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
great deal for the dodgers, gives them an out to cut bait if he continues to regress. surprised kershaw took it
― k3vin k., Saturday, 3 November 2018 06:28 (five years ago) link
The shape of his career may mirror Seaver's, although the ages don't align precisely.
Seaver was dominant from '69 to '73 (age 24-28), great from '74 to '81 (29-36), and then he tacked on a few years where he was still reasonably effective relative to the league (37-41). There are some blips in there, but you can more or less identify three phases.
Kershaw's dominant phase stretches from 2011-2017 (age 23-29). Maybe last year was the beginning of his merely-great phase.
― clemenza, Saturday, 3 November 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
Sinking feeling he's going to take the Koufax parallels too far.― clemenza, Monday, July 24, 2017 10:33 AM (one year ago)
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/dodgers-clayton-kershaw-shut-down-indefinitely-due-to-undisclosed-arm-issue-manager-dave-roberts-says/
I want to strangle the guy who named this thread.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 February 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link
don't feel too bad, it happens to pretty much all of them. :(
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
Per Jorge Castillo of the Los Angeles Times, manager Dave Roberts says Kershaw has ceased throwing after feeling that something was amiss following a bullpen session. Roberts termed it an "arm kind of thing" and gave no timetable for a return to throwing. Kershaw will, however, take part in his usual non-throwing workouts.
yikes, an arm kind of thing.
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
in the words of Jeff Sullivan, "Pitching is bad, don't do it."
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 February 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
well, his season debut is tonight. i would love to see him be able to have a couple more solid seasons
― The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link