pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

a love supreme is bad not good

vu self-titled okay but kind of slight

you're kind of slight

still get a thrill when this one starts. what an amazing sound.

― tylerw, Tuesday, August 22, 2017

otm especially during "I am tired" sequence

some cats don't dig Trane, but I love those sheets of sound just want to snuggle up in them and take a nap

I remember reading in the Trouser Press guide about a semi-joke '80s indie act called Proof of Utah who had a winky John Coltrane riff called "I Love Ice Cream" (say it out loud).

yea venus in furs is so good xps

wait im confused guys. are pet sounds and venus and furs good or bad?

I am weary.

....pets have....fur...

pets live on earth...which is a planet

venus is a planet...

think about it

before they could record all of these albums every artist had to...

plan it

I do appreciate the irony of a guy who just wrote an entire album about goths thinking that the ur-goth song is "a slog"

White Light White Heat is the best VU imo

i also always liked highway 61 more than blonde on blonde

live at birdland is 10x better than love supreme although that album is good

Freewheelin is my favorite. Blonde on Blonde is kind of a mess.

White Light White Heat is the best VU imo

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:47 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i also always liked highway 61 more than blonde on blonde

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:48 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me too

shoulda been a lil more CCR in that last imo

*list

if we're getting all canonical Highway 61 is undeniably the best of Dylan's "electric period" peak, all killer no filler

fave VU for me is (like Tyler) probably Live 1969 tbh

blonde on blonde is my favorite dylan and the white album is my favorite beatles but i love big messy double albums

i am kinda surprised at how conventional the top 10 is

10 years ago it would not have included Nina Simone and that's about the only big difference I can detect

yea Wild is the Wind is the only one that stuck out

61 is so great. best Dylan band easily. the garage junkyard act.

the intro to "Queen Jane Approximately" is magic. also the mandolin on "Desolation Row". the sky is opening up.

Nancy & Lee might have been higher if they'd done this several years ago. Hazlewood revival seems to have somewhat subsided.

the list needs more music from big pink

yup

agreeing w/d40 a lot today, White Light is peak, debut is a lot of good songs that'd be better with a better drummer

honestly I could grouse about Venus in Furs all day, even when I was a huge fan of Lou & the band I thought it was so basic. "I read a naughty book! here's some stuff I read in the naughty book."

Since they were explicitly trying to include albums with great singles, seems odd that Cosmo's Factory isn't on there/marcos otm.

At some point every Velvet album has been my favorite (including VU) except Loaded, so I don't care if the banana album isn't embraced. Every Velvet album has a horrible experiment I never listen to but wouldn't cut.

I think the fact it came out in 1970 is probably the biggest reason it's not on there. xp

honestly I could grouse about Venus in Furs all day

keep diggin!

lyrics aside, sonically it's the most arresting/groundbreaking cut on the first album, can't really think of any precedents in rock/pop for that kind of baroque, droning, sinister sort of sound.

I only found out about this yesterday, so I have zero idea what I would've voted for.

Haha shit, I just read the Wikipedia entry on it too. Didn't sleep last night, I'll blame that. Not too bothered by Bayou/River not being on there.

i dig that the whole s&m thing is a little dated but the sound of that track is so amazing to me still

sonically it's the most arresting/groundbreaking cut on the first album

I guess your copy doesn't have "European Son" on it

how do you feel abt Heroin? seems also kinda dated transgressive but I still love that as well

Venus in Fears is incredible, sonically it's still in its own universe

Heroin's dated for sure but that's one where my vibe feels in line with most Velvets fans - it meant so much to me as a teenager, it still hits those same nostalgia spots when I hear it. I knew a bunch of live versions before I got my hands on the banana album and listening to it was such a revelation, that I-IV riff - I mean anybody who knows me knows I-IV is basically where I lived for fucking ever and the sheer power of that riff had a lot to do with it. I tend to prefer the versions everybody doesn't like though i.e. where Steve Hunter's on guitar, banana album version is a good first look but the song gets better live as it ages for at least five years

Heroin was the first VU song I ever heard, it's inclusion on The Doors movie OST is an underated milestones in the over grounding of 80s indie rock culture

Goddamn it would've been so good if The Doors OST was the #1 pitchfork album of the 1960s

European Son is basically a bo diddley riff. Venus in Furs is ... something else.

Xxp

not picking the Doors soundtrack as the best album of the 60s def another sign that Pitchfork has sold out since Conde Nast bought them, $$$chreiber &co. don't have the stones to Ride the Snake.

Venus in Furs is ... something else.

a Brecht pastiche?

I've always wondered about the connection between "Heroin" and "You Can't Always Get What You Want." Weirdly similar two chords, very similar subject matter ...

Hmm:

"Of perhaps more note is that the Velvet Underground are confirmed to have directly influenced an actual well-known late 1960s Rolling Stones recording. As Mick Jagger confessed to Nick Kent of NME in June 1977, "Even we've been influenced by the Velvet Underground. No, really. I'll tell you exactly what we pinched from (Lou Reed). Y'know 'Stray Cat Blues' (from the Rolling Stones' 1968 album Beggars Banquet)? The whole sound and the way it's paced, we pinched from the first Velvet Underground album. Y'know, the sound on 'Heroin.' Honest to God, we did!"

How is "European Son" "basically a Bo Diddley riff?"

Best thing I've read yet in these blurbs by Zoe Camp:

Instead of endless possibility or untapped potential, frontman Jim Morrison’s notion of infinity suggests an ever-present, invariably destructive cosmic malaise filled with agonizing bar crawls, sordid hook-ups, and, of course, death. How marvelous, then, that as the void closes in on the album’s crown jewel, “Light My Fire,” the predominant mood is cathartic rather than catastrophic.