pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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In a Silent Way was inevitable, but I've never really loved it. Nefertiti is a much, much better record, so seeing it on the list made me happy.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:43 (six years ago) link

inevitable?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link

my fav album of all time (out to lunch) getting to no. 15 was a nice surprise

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link

inevitable?

On this list, given Pitchfork's whole "yeah, we understand jazz now" thing of the last few years? Yeah, inevitable.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link

It was inevitably gonna place ninth in a 60s album list, as foretold by the great prophets

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

Can I just say I'm completely gobsmacked that Black Christ of the Andes made the list? Whatever comes next (I'm still going through it) is forgiven.

Also, I'm so happy Brad did the First Take writeup. <3

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link

Except for The Shaggs. Are we still pretending this is good?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link

Can I just say I'm completely gobsmacked that Black Christ of the Andes made the list

i am so thrilled

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

I was going to ask, does anyone still listen to that Shaggs album?

jmm, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

Yup, Black Christ of the Andes is so so great, and it feels good to see it recognized. Also Mickey Newbury's Looks Like Rain.

Overall a pretty good list. They picked the wrong Soft Machine and Laura Nyro albums though. Kind of funny to see Amon Duul II's Phallus Dei and Judy Collins' Wildflowers butting up against each other.

J. Sam, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

In A Silent Way directly influenced more rock(ish) stuff, but most of the hip jazz cats I know love it. Really, at some point in the last 20 years or so, Miles' fusion era stuff did kind of become canon for jazz dudes. Not all jazz dudes certainly, but the ones who might, for example, be listening to a lot of non jazz as well. eg hard to imagine the guys in the Bad Plus not loving IASW.

just browsed thru the 60s list, seemed ok to me, as far as big statement lists go? Will never care about Van Morrison, but happy white album ended up being the highest Beatles. Over time, it's probably the one I've played the most.

Dominique, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link

Fairport is the biggest omission I see, but 1969 is probably represented enough as it is.

jmm, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link

i mean there are a lot of jazz records on this list but i'm slightly bummed by the total absence of wayne shorter's speak no evil

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

Fairport is the biggest omission I see, but 1969 is probably represented enough as it is.

Pentangle too. Though it was nice to see Shirley and Dolly Collins' Anthems in Eden representing Brit folk.

J. Sam, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

sort of hate quibbling about these things, but sandy denny is really getting neglected by these lists — first that NPR list, now this. inconceivable!

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

In a list of 200 records, they definitely could've left Arthur off and let the other two Kinks records speak for themselves. Not that Arthur is a bad record, but I feel like it stole a spot it didn't deserve.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link

Also, as far as 60s Stones albums that aren't Let It Bleed go, Between the Buttons is my go-to. Not sure if I have any strong feelings about it being excluded, but it's better than Aftermath.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

Seeing Dusty In Memphis in the top 20 was a nice surprise. I thought it would place somewhere, but not that high.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

Song Cycle at #93, not bad.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

Several of these albums are better known for a few key songs/singles, not necessarily known for being key albums, as such. I've never heard them, but are, say, the LPs here by Wilson Pickett, Shangri-Las, Link Wray, Tammy Wynette, Patsy Cline or Roy Orbison (for example) particularly good albums, or do they succeed mostly by dint of the artists/geniuses involved? Like, are there better Roy Orbison albums than others, or are they all good, because it's Roy Orbison, just some have better/better known singles than others?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

this list is great so far -- I didn't vote this time because my schedule for the past few weeks has basically been a complete hellscape but I'm glad it turned out well

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

Breakdown of albums per year:

1960: 6
1961: 4
1962: 6
1963: 12
1964: 15
1965: 19
1966: 19
1967: 23
1968: 39
1969: 57

― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, August 22, 2017 11:57 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nice

||||||||, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

roy orbison's crying is all killer imo

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

This list pretty much reminded me why I own less albums from the '60s than I do from the '70s and '80s.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link

thinking Nina Simone is officially overrated now tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link

for some reason I had never bothered to hunt down that Mickey Newbury album before but damn that is a good one

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

As someone who has been into jazz since my teenage years, I'm unimpressed by the jazz picks and borderline offended by the mashing up of jazz and rock albums.

List is dogshit.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

it's good list imo

marcos, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

1969: 57

The kids love 69. It's one of those numbers like 420 that kids like.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

Dusty In Memphis is where it should be.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

borderline offended by the mashing up of jazz and rock albums.

So you think they should have separate rock and jazz lists?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

anyone got a plaintext version of this

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

As someone who has been into jazz since my teenage years, I'm unimpressed by the jazz picks and borderline offended by the mashing up of jazz and rock albums.

List is dogshit.

― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:17 PM

Jazzbo unimpressed with decade list compiled by popular music website that only occasionally covers jazz in the first place, film at 11.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

And if we want to talk overrated, Dusty in Memphis is my first pick for an album that doesn't even belong on this list. Especially considering the complete lack of Sandy Denny.

The White Album isn't the Beatles' best album.

Pet Sounds isn't better than any jazz album on the list.

And, finally, there's this:

“In C” isn’t a record you measure against Pet Sounds or Blonde on Blonde.

Then why in the fuck are you doing exactly that?

Fuck this list.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

What is the correct opinion?

Won't someone please think of the passionate millennial males?

Evan, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

chill yo

marcos, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

it is a list of albums

marcos, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

if you don't like pet sounds, then why do you read lists in the first place?

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

forever searching for the one best-of list without pet sounds

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

what sound does a shit cat make?

Evan, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

ill never see the nile again

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

Dusty in Memphis is my first pick for an album that doesn't even belong on this list. Especially considering the complete lack of Sandy Denny.

In what universe are Dusty and Sandy interchangeable?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

also like how do you read a '60s list and entertain the thought of dusty in memphis not being on it

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

particularly a staff list, do you really think everyone is going to have the exact same contrarian impulse en masse`

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

dusty in memphis is so good

marcos, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

it should've been in the top ten

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

I like the list so far, only about halfway through. Probably will have to put together a spotify list that includes all full albums, as pfork only has a sampler list.

Moodles, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

it was in mine

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

xp

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

my approach to my ballot was at least somewhat contrarian but dusty in memphis still sounds like glitter falling out of your speakers imo. undeniable record

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link


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