Aw
― Neanderthal, Monday, 21 August 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link
New Municipal Waste is exactly what I want from the band... Which is great for me!
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link
My view is that he is misguided and ignorant of how pervasive a swastika is perceived as a negative thing
My view is he's not misguided, he just thinks he's smarter than everyone else. Which isn't something you boycott or ban people's shows over; it's more the thing where 'get over yourself, you self-absorbed dick' seems to suffice.
In saying that, I don't know him, though I do know people who know people who know him/work with him. They say he's a good guy, and they're good people, so I'm going on that.
When this was last a thing a few years ago, I put together a few questions to email interview him through official-ish channels, questions I believed were fair based on the perceived slant of his own statements. I was more or less told he wouldn't answer them - which itself says a lot.
(I never got word from the man himself, though it basically came down to 'meet him in person at a gig to hash it out' which is... nah, that's more of a manipulation tactic than what you think I'm trying to pull on you. I'll pass.)
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 06:21 (six years ago) link
Likely the post has to do with Nyogthaeblisz, who was on a few of the shows for this tour, being kicked off the bill because they are known antisemites.
Ahh. Well, still, my back gets up easy at the prevalence of anti-"sjw" shit in the metal scene these days.
Also kinda bummed because those guys are in Hellvetron who are fucking amazing.
― The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 06:46 (six years ago) link
bolzer guy is clearly a fucking moron, and also a moron with some nazi ass tattoos. fuck that guy. there's a lot of metal out there!
― adam, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
profanatica guy: also a moron!
― adam, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link
Thanks for your contribution to the thread.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
My impression is that the Bolzer guy has a facile view about the swastika. That rates pretty low on the Nazi scale. It doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized, but it's not enough to cross the threshold where I'd avoid listening to them on principle.
― jmm, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
well now that that's settled, let us proceed further into the review of minutes from the last Council meeting
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
Fair enough! BIG|BRAVE count as metal, right? Their new one is excellent.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
Trap Them are breaking up (final shows in November). I saw them live once about seven years ago and enjoyed it, but they were the kind of band that should have been together for maybe five years, and put out no more than three albums. (Converge is this kind of band too - whoops!) I have at least three Trap Them albums on my hard drive and don't think I've made it through a single one of them more than twice.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link
I liked Crown Feral a lot
The one and a half time I listened to it
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link
Managed to see them once and they were tremendous.
I loved Great Falls too, a really apparently short-lived and wilfully obscure band featuring their singer.
― Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
Ambient metal devotees, Azonic (Blind Idiot God guitarist Andy Hawkins's solo project) is putting out its second full-length at the end of October. The first one, Halo, came out in 1994. It's an amazing record, hard to even describe - here's the first track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhV9n-52k7I
The new one isn't totally solo; Tim Wyskida (formerly of Khanate, currently in Blind Idiot God) is also on it, playing timpani, concert bass drum, and gong.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link
Oranssi Pazuzu taking flak on their Facebook page for bowing out of a Berlin festival they'd been scheduled to play, due to the Israeli embassy co-sponsoring travel expenses for another act.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Oranssi-pazuzu-58437793552/posts/?ref=page_internal
― o. nate, Thursday, 24 August 2017 01:21 (six years ago) link
Decapitated kicked ass 2nite i m drunk
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 August 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link
We do not want to endorse any state, governance or agenda; open or hidden.
Hmm. So does that extend to refusing any state arts funding, even indirect, such as playing in subsidised venues? Seems difficult if not impossible in Europe.
BDS is a perfectly valid strategy, and Radiohead rightly look a lot of flak for their own opposite stance (in defending a gig in Tel Aviv), but this smacks of... a facile understanding of the situation, at best.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 24 August 2017 06:27 (six years ago) link
This Maim record from a month or two ago is delicious riffy OSDM. Great instrumental track, too.
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 24 August 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link
so when you decide to get a tattoo "reclaiming" the swastika and you happen to be a musician in a genre that has had a notorious Nazi problem, both with the musicians and the fans, you can't really get upset that you're "misunderstood"
this smacks of... a facile understanding of the situation, at best.
And this is why they are metal musicians and not rocket surgeons.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
So Antisect have a new album coming out. The first song I've heard from it doesn't sound anything like Antisect, really, more groove-oriented doom. Kind of a bummer.
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 25 August 2017 08:34 (six years ago) link
tbf there was a lot of grief over Antisect's reformation with a few members leaving acrimoniously so afaik it's only 1 original member now or something.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 25 August 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link
Ah okay. They're one of those bands that made an album that's so strong I dunno why they need to continue anyway.
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 25 August 2017 10:41 (six years ago) link
There's two new tracks by Wolves in the Throne Room up on Spotify. Black and beautiful imo.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 25 August 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link
I'm waiting for the whole thing to come out but I'm ecouraged by the good response to the new songs so far. There's so much "atmospheric" black metal out there these days of middling quality so I hope these guys come up with the goods.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 25 August 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
The new Nervecell (floor-punching thrash/death metal from the UAE) is good. Unsurprising, but solid. It's their first album in six years.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 25 August 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
Reverorum ib MalachtTer Agios Numini(The Ajna Offensive)Release Date: 8/18/2017
http://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81axlty-P2L._SY355_.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/79tFlu1bgF1hNQq6Gfd1tC
Duo from Sweden got static when they converted to Roman Catholicism a few years back, but this album is a total mindfuck of horror sound effects and ambient percussion; four dismal hymns subliminal atmospherics created by haunting strings and synths and bizarre, cryptic vocal samples. It's dense and loopy and undeniably foreboding and I have trouble believing the church of Rome would understand. Not even sure that I do, for that matter. But it's intriguing and disconcerting in a Goblin/Pinkish Black if they were Black Metal kind of way.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 25 August 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
Wanted to like thatDid not
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 August 2017 04:56 (six years ago) link
new Chasm samples hello hooray
https://luxinframundisproductions.bandcamp.com/album/a-conscious-creation-from-the-isolated-domain-sampler
― Devilock, Saturday, 26 August 2017 07:10 (six years ago) link
Darkspace still exists, apparently: they're playing at the Dutch Deathfest next year (with loads of other bands obv) - http://www.deathfests.com/event/ndf-2018
― StanM, Saturday, 26 August 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link
This Pyrrhon album is a motherfucker
and they sample Tom Lehrer
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 28 August 2017 07:44 (six years ago) link
is it 'we will all go together when we go' by any chance
― imago, Monday, 28 August 2017 09:41 (six years ago) link
heh nah just spoken word, the "life is like a sewer" quote
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 28 August 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link
holy shit @ the Tilburg Deathfests lineup
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 28 August 2017 10:56 (six years ago) link
This Pyrrhon album is a motherfuckerand they sample Tom Lehrer― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ)
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ)
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
Cool! Man, that music would be overwhelming live.
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 28 August 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
OK Pyrrhon's been bumped up to the top of my shopping list. In other "difficult" metal news, the new Ehnahre album is extremely fucking good.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 28 August 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
can somebody in the know give me the gist of the Matt Harvey op-ed for Decibel magazine regarding NSBM, cos my anger level is too high to wade through it
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link
Some weak sauce along the lines of 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it'.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 07:02 (six years ago) link
Yeah. Also I think my eyes slid off of some "let's have a conversation" style shit? Dunno.
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 09:30 (six years ago) link
My late night coffee is kicking in so let me rep this in this thread, too, even though it is guilty of being a few years old - Stilla's "Ensamhetens Andar"
http://stillaswe.bandcamp.com/album/ensamhetens-andar
Black metal with some Virus/Voivod weirdo elements and some keys. Not super vicious and thrashy, which is just fine with me.
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 09:32 (six years ago) link
Basically Harvey says Nazis are bad and no one should buy their shitty albums, but distributors should feel free to choose for themselves whether to make a few bucks off the suckers who do want that shit in their houses. He does a better job of considering counterarguments like "easy for you to say, white boy" than an empty-headed fuckhole like Neill Jameson might, but trips over his dick by calling metal "apolitical" when what he really means is that metal is a political free-fire zone. It's better than I expected it to be, but still pointless.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:58 (six years ago) link
Has Jameson stood up for NSBM bands? Hadn't seen that.
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:00 (six years ago) link
That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that Jameson is an idiot and a bad writer who caricatures counterarguments in a buffoonish and unfunny manner, and Harvey doesn't do that - he grants them the weight they deserve and even says "you could say x...and you'd be right."
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:04 (six years ago) link
Ah okay, sorry I misunderstood.
― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link
didn't decibel publish an opinion peace by some buffoon complaining about "social justice warriors" a few years ago (as the gamergate wars raged)?
― adam, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:08 (six years ago) link
christ piece*
That would be Jameson.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link
this is why when I make friends w/ metalheads I like basically put them through an interview process.
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link
let's just all agree that Craig Pillard deserves to have his stomach turned into a punching bag and move on I guess
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link
Master of Puppets to become a gigantic box set November 10.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link