JOSS WHEDON SUPER POLL WITH CORRECT FORMATTING

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so seems like that horrible early Wonder Woman script was for real

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 August 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link

glad someone's engaging with the real issue here

licking the yellow Toad next to the teleporter (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 August 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

i haven't read that thing because i really don't care, but i seem to remember there was a thing about him hitting on teenage fans on social media a couple years ago? or did i just assume this is what joss whedon did?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 August 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

imo the grossest thing about this is that apparently Whedon wrote a long narrative letter for his life that crafted his entire history of infidelity into some sort of narrative? she seems to have dropped some quotes from it

who the fuck does that? here, wife, is my treatise on the duality of man that explains all the affairs I've been having

mh, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

honestly that's probably very common lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

Dr. Horrible Feminist's Cringe-Along Log

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

ok lol

licking the yellow Toad next to the teleporter (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

I'm hoping this means that no one will ever quote any of his scripts' non-comedic lines as "clever" or "deep" ever again but I'm not holding out hope

mh, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

um that is to say, I'm sure that's probably not the case

mh, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

wait

that thing about fucking new universes into existence isn't real, is it

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 21 August 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

that's how jim shooter created star brand iirc

well-played

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

As much as I'd love to indict Whedon for horrible comics, I don't think comic series based on television properties have any editorial oversight whatsoever. Sometimes it seems the token issue written by someone connected to the original property isn't even proofed by the writer.

mh, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

you could tell me that an X-Files comic has established Mulder is a werewolf and I'd believe it

mh, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

As much as I'd love to indict Whedon for horrible comics, I don't think comic series based on television properties have any editorial oversight whatsoever. Sometimes it seems the token issue written by someone connected to the original property isn't even proofed by the writer.

― mh, Monday, August 21, 2017 10:07 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He actually wrote a lot of those "Season 8" comics himself IIRC.

Pheeel, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_Season_Eight#Writers_and_story_arcs

Joss Whedon serves as "executive producer" for the series across every issue, giving his other writers notes on characterization, continuity and his overall concept in mind as he would when overseeing Buffy as a television series. Whedon wrote the first story arc ("The Long Way Home", #1–4), the fourth ("Time of Your Life", #16–19), the final story arc ("Last Gleaming", #36–40), and several intermediary one-shot stories (#5, #10, #11, "Willow", and #31). Comic and television writer Brian K. Vaughan became the first guest writer on the series, writing the second story arc "No Future for You" (#6–9). While Vaughan was not a "Buffyverse" staff member, he was a fan of both series (particularly the character of Faith) and Joss Whedon himself was a fan of Vaughan's Marvel Comics series Runaways, on which he served as writer during the period Vaughan wrote "No Future for You." Former Buffy and Angel writer Drew Goddard wrote the series' third arc, "Wolves at the Gate" (#12–15). Goddard first became a Buffy writer in its final season, starting with the episode "Selfless" and finishing with the Angel episode "The Girl in Question", which itself obliquely hints at the life of Buffy post-season seven. Goddard went on to become a writer for the movie Cloverfield and acclaimed American dramas Lost and Alias (all working alongside producer J. J. Abrams) while also penning the story "Antique" for canonical Buffy comic book Tales of the Vampires, which he references in "Wolves at the Gate".

Film, comics and television writer-producer Jeph Loeb wrote issue #20 of the series ("After These Messages... We'll Be Right Back!". Loeb had previously been involved with Whedon in the conception of Buffy the Animated Series, which never came to be. Following Loeb are Buffyverse alumni Jane Espenson, Doug Petrie,[28] Drew Z. Greenberg, and Steven S. DeKnight as well as comic book writer Jim Krueger, who each wrote an issue between issues #21 and #25 ("Predators and Prey"), which is a single arc told from a number of different perspectives. These one-shots follow the perspectives of Harmony (#21, Espenson), Satsu/Kennedy (#22, DeKnight), Buffy/Andrew (#23, Greenberg), Giles/Faith (#24, Krueger) and a Xander/Dawn issue which will also reveal more about Twilight (#25, Petrie).[29] Jane Espenson returned for a five-issue arc involving the character of Oz for issues #26–30, titled "Retreat"[30] and also wrote a one-shot about Riley. Joss Whedon returned to write two one-shots, "Willow: Goddesses and Monsters" and issue #31, "Turbulence". Brad Meltzer, author of several New York Times best-selling books and later both Identity Crisis and Justice League for DC Comics wrote the penultimate story arc of Season Eight, "Twilight", which is issues #32–35. Whedon himself resumes authorship for the final five issues (#36–40, "Last Gleaming") of the series, bringing Season Eight to an end.[31]

Dark Horse Presents has also offered several short, canonical side stories to the mix. "Harmony Bites" by Espenson and Moline is a fictional episode of Harmony Kendall's television series, tying into issue #21. "Vampy Cat Play Friend" is a fictional television commercial tying in with issue #22, written by Steven S. DeKnight and illustrated by Camilla d'Errico. Joss Whedon teamed up with Jo Chen to produce "Always Darkest", a depiction of Buffy's terrible nightmares, and Espenson teamed up with Moline again to produce "Harmony Comes to the Nation", a fictional interview for The Colbert Report where Harmony lays out her ambitions, both tying in with Jane Espenson's "Retreat" arc. Jackie Kessler wrote "Tales of the Vampires: Carpe Noctem", a two-part ministory with the previously unseen characters Ash and Cyn, about the consequences of Harmony Kendall's television series from a vampire's point of view.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

Also since seeing the panel of Angel and Buffy boffing across the sky, I have not been able to stop giggling.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

I stand corrected, these nerdos do care about these horrible comics

mh, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

the internet sucks so bad

k3vin k., Monday, 21 August 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

Very true

Which matters more out of wheedons work or his affairs or his feminist cred I can't summon up enough enthusiasm about any of it to discern

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:40 (six years ago) link

cool thanx for letting us know mate

Pheeel, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 08:57 (six years ago) link

Ugh, I hate stuff like this so much.

http://www.avclub.com/article/joss-whedon-was-never-feminist-259694

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 11:07 (six years ago) link

Why? I read it, I don't get it.

As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 11:10 (six years ago) link

Biographical readings of art are boring and trite, is my principal objection.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 11:14 (six years ago) link

that seems a bit of a stretch for what the piece actually says tho

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 11:19 (six years ago) link

i mean it starts with a straight-up critique of some aspects of buffy which have nothing to do, really, with whedon's personal feminism

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 11:20 (six years ago) link

The piece repeatedly draws connections between plot/writing elements, his public words and the alleged stuff in his private life.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 11:22 (six years ago) link

That point of the piece is to situate the writer on the right side of the argument, and the rest is unimportant.

Re: whether he's a feminist or not - who cares? Seems more important whether (as the ex-wife suggests) he abused his position as producer - not whether, say, he was mean to kill off Cordelia.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:13 (six years ago) link

Interesting that Kai Cole says she was diagnosed with complex PTSD. I have too many thoughts on this! C-PTSD isn't a DSM-5 disorder but does go a long way to describe (and help treat) trauma felt by systemic oppression, abusive relationships, or unstable family lives

fgti, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link

personally I would like to hear more of the thoughts!

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link

guilty lol

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