Rolling Metal 2017

Ugh can't you guys stick to Porky Pigging in corpsepaint and blasphemy.

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Profanatica is known for hating Christianity and Jesus/Christianity which are "good" things to hate. I could find no evidence that they are antisemitic or anything like that.

Likely the post has to do with Nyogthaeblisz, who was on a few of the shows for this tour, being kicked off the bill because they are known antisemites. In other local news, they lied to get on stage at a north Philly sports bar.

Apparently this has happened with other Profanatica support bands as well. My guess is the band happens to feel more kinship with their support acts than those who make enough noise to have them removed. I think they're wrong but that doesn't make them Nazis.

I am "sjw scum" and I was at the show so... Fuck me, I guess.

I also spoke with Paul (the band leader) briefly before and after the show. I didn't get into all of this but he was cordial and tried to get me to see the band in New York when they would have their main guitarist (the guy playing Delaware is evidently a fill-in guy for when the main guitarist cannot tour).

And I'll be seeing (and reviewing) Bolzer next week! My view is that he is misguided and ignorant of how pervasive a swastika is perceived as a negative thing, but not a Nazi. The photos he posted with his father were amazing.

Is Malcolm Tent still in the band

According to Encyclopedia Metallium, no.

Aw

New Municipal Waste is exactly what I want from the band... Which is great for me!

My view is that he is misguided and ignorant of how pervasive a swastika is perceived as a negative thing

My view is he's not misguided, he just thinks he's smarter than everyone else. Which isn't something you boycott or ban people's shows over; it's more the thing where 'get over yourself, you self-absorbed dick' seems to suffice.

In saying that, I don't know him, though I do know people who know people who know him/work with him. They say he's a good guy, and they're good people, so I'm going on that.

When this was last a thing a few years ago, I put together a few questions to email interview him through official-ish channels, questions I believed were fair based on the perceived slant of his own statements. I was more or less told he wouldn't answer them - which itself says a lot.

(I never got word from the man himself, though it basically came down to 'meet him in person at a gig to hash it out' which is... nah, that's more of a manipulation tactic than what you think I'm trying to pull on you. I'll pass.)

Likely the post has to do with Nyogthaeblisz, who was on a few of the shows for this tour, being kicked off the bill because they are known antisemites.

Ahh. Well, still, my back gets up easy at the prevalence of anti-"sjw" shit in the metal scene these days.

Also kinda bummed because those guys are in Hellvetron who are fucking amazing.

bolzer guy is clearly a fucking moron, and also a moron with some nazi ass tattoos. fuck that guy. there's a lot of metal out there!

profanatica guy: also a moron!

Thanks for your contribution to the thread.

My impression is that the Bolzer guy has a facile view about the swastika. That rates pretty low on the Nazi scale. It doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized, but it's not enough to cross the threshold where I'd avoid listening to them on principle.

well now that that's settled, let us proceed further into the review of minutes from the last Council meeting

well now that that's settled, let us proceed further into the review of minutes from the last Council meeting

Fair enough! BIG|BRAVE count as metal, right? Their new one is excellent.

Trap Them are breaking up (final shows in November). I saw them live once about seven years ago and enjoyed it, but they were the kind of band that should have been together for maybe five years, and put out no more than three albums. (Converge is this kind of band too - whoops!) I have at least three Trap Them albums on my hard drive and don't think I've made it through a single one of them more than twice.

I liked Crown Feral a lot

The one and a half time I listened to it

Managed to see them once and they were tremendous.

I loved Great Falls too, a really apparently short-lived and wilfully obscure band featuring their singer.

Ambient metal devotees, Azonic (Blind Idiot God guitarist Andy Hawkins's solo project) is putting out its second full-length at the end of October. The first one, Halo, came out in 1994. It's an amazing record, hard to even describe - here's the first track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhV9n-52k7I

The new one isn't totally solo; Tim Wyskida (formerly of Khanate, currently in Blind Idiot God) is also on it, playing timpani, concert bass drum, and gong.

Oranssi Pazuzu taking flak on their Facebook page for bowing out of a Berlin festival they'd been scheduled to play, due to the Israeli embassy co-sponsoring travel expenses for another act.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Oranssi-pazuzu-58437793552/posts/?ref=page_internal

Decapitated kicked ass 2nite i m drunk

We do not want to endorse any state, governance or agenda; open or hidden.

Hmm. So does that extend to refusing any state arts funding, even indirect, such as playing in subsidised venues? Seems difficult if not impossible in Europe.

BDS is a perfectly valid strategy, and Radiohead rightly look a lot of flak for their own opposite stance (in defending a gig in Tel Aviv), but this smacks of... a facile understanding of the situation, at best.

This Maim record from a month or two ago is delicious riffy OSDM. Great instrumental track, too.

so when you decide to get a tattoo "reclaiming" the swastika and you happen to be a musician in a genre that has had a notorious Nazi problem, both with the musicians and the fans, you can't really get upset that you're "misunderstood"

this smacks of... a facile understanding of the situation, at best.

And this is why they are metal musicians and not rocket surgeons.

So Antisect have a new album coming out. The first song I've heard from it doesn't sound anything like Antisect, really, more groove-oriented doom. Kind of a bummer.

tbf there was a lot of grief over Antisect's reformation with a few members leaving acrimoniously so afaik it's only 1 original member now or something.

Ah okay. They're one of those bands that made an album that's so strong I dunno why they need to continue anyway.

There's two new tracks by Wolves in the Throne Room up on Spotify. Black and beautiful imo.

I'm waiting for the whole thing to come out but I'm ecouraged by the good response to the new songs so far. There's so much "atmospheric" black metal out there these days of middling quality so I hope these guys come up with the goods.

The new Nervecell (floor-punching thrash/death metal from the UAE) is good. Unsurprising, but solid. It's their first album in six years.

Reverorum ib Malacht
Ter Agios Numini
(The Ajna Offensive)
Release Date: 8/18/2017

http://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81axlty-P2L._SY355_.jpg

http://open.spotify.com/album/79tFlu1bgF1hNQq6Gfd1tC

Duo from Sweden got static when they converted to Roman Catholicism a few years back, but this album is a total mindfuck of horror sound effects and ambient percussion; four dismal hymns subliminal atmospherics created by haunting strings and synths and bizarre, cryptic vocal samples. It's dense and loopy and undeniably foreboding and I have trouble believing the church of Rome would understand. Not even sure that I do, for that matter. But it's intriguing and disconcerting in a Goblin/Pinkish Black if they were Black Metal kind of way.

Wanted to like that
Did not

new Chasm samples hello hooray

https://luxinframundisproductions.bandcamp.com/album/a-conscious-creation-from-the-isolated-domain-sampler

Darkspace still exists, apparently: they're playing at the Dutch Deathfest next year (with loads of other bands obv) - http://www.deathfests.com/event/ndf-2018

This Pyrrhon album is a motherfucker

and they sample Tom Lehrer

is it 'we will all go together when we go' by any chance

heh nah just spoken word, the "life is like a sewer" quote

holy shit @ the Tilburg Deathfests lineup

This Pyrrhon album is a motherfucker

and they sample Tom Lehrer

― Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ)

Cool! Man, that music would be overwhelming live.

OK Pyrrhon's been bumped up to the top of my shopping list. In other "difficult" metal news, the new Ehnahre album is extremely fucking good.

can somebody in the know give me the gist of the Matt Harvey op-ed for Decibel magazine regarding NSBM, cos my anger level is too high to wade through it

can somebody in the know give me the gist of the Matt Harvey op-ed for Decibel magazine regarding NSBM, cos my anger level is too high to wade through it

Some weak sauce along the lines of 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it'.

Yeah. Also I think my eyes slid off of some "let's have a conversation" style shit? Dunno.

My late night coffee is kicking in so let me rep this in this thread, too, even though it is guilty of being a few years old - Stilla's "Ensamhetens Andar"

http://stillaswe.bandcamp.com/album/ensamhetens-andar

Black metal with some Virus/Voivod weirdo elements and some keys. Not super vicious and thrashy, which is just fine with me.

Basically Harvey says Nazis are bad and no one should buy their shitty albums, but distributors should feel free to choose for themselves whether to make a few bucks off the suckers who do want that shit in their houses. He does a better job of considering counterarguments like "easy for you to say, white boy" than an empty-headed fuckhole like Neill Jameson might, but trips over his dick by calling metal "apolitical" when what he really means is that metal is a political free-fire zone. It's better than I expected it to be, but still pointless.

Has Jameson stood up for NSBM bands? Hadn't seen that.

That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that Jameson is an idiot and a bad writer who caricatures counterarguments in a buffoonish and unfunny manner, and Harvey doesn't do that - he grants them the weight they deserve and even says "you could say x...and you'd be right."

Ah okay, sorry I misunderstood.

didn't decibel publish an opinion peace by some buffoon complaining about "social justice warriors" a few years ago (as the gamergate wars raged)?

christ piece*