HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

I thought Sansa acting all retrograde in her scenes with Littlefinger and then snotty with Brienne was a sign that she's definitely playing along to entrap LF. At least I fucking hope so, if she learned anything from Cersei it ought to have been how to do that.

The succession plan is a sore subject for Dany cause Mirri Maz Duur told her she would never bear children "until the sun rises in the west and sets in the east" etc

yeah yeah yeah, I mean specifically where he just blurts out "hey the ironborn are fucked up but they have a method..." ELECTIONS U MEAN

At first glance this question from vulture seems interesting:

Does a wight dragon breath fire or ice?
Obviously, we don’t know the answer yet, but fire is the dragon’s most potent weapon and it’s hard to believe Undead Viserion would be left with no murder-breathing skills whatsoever. If he breathes ice instead of fire, that would set him up for an interesting duel with his brothers.

But I figure Undead Viserion's flame breath is how they're going to get through the Wall, since they didn't ever really mention that Horn thing from the books or whatever.

lost in all the chaos of the battle - did they manage to get that one zombie back to the wall with them?

Yes. They were throwing him in a boat.

Yes. He has a tag now

http://www.vulture.com/tags/wight-in-a-bag/

Still very confused how they all rode a dragon back home if dragon riding is something only targaryans can do and arrrgh must not think about it too hard.

also why didn't they just ride the dragon all the way back to dragonstone

Slightly disappointed Ed Sheeran wasn't one if the faces in the bag tbf

Ha :)

They were peeling frozen clothing off him what was presumably hours later. No one survives that shit.

it's a show about dragons and zombies

but with realistic anti-dragon weapon development

this episode was 79 min long, next week's is 80+ right?

i enjoyed this. wasn't sure they'd be able to keep the momentum that long w/the surly seven hanging out on the Isle of Wight just waiting but they accomplished it pretty well.

as noted above, dany and the dragons turning up isn't a deus ex machina - Jon explicitly sends for them and we see it play out on-screen

but yes, Benjen is

I find the Sansa /arya stuff kind of frustrating so far & confusing as far as what each character is getting at exactly?? It seems like there's stuff each of them could say which would actually set everything straight lol.. maybe I'm just being prepped for a good payoff, but it feels to me a little like no one knows what's going on

Otherwise still enjoying the show

Arya having to lug around a literal bag of faces is so dumb

yeah, i find their recent scenes frustrating too, for similar reasons. tonight as i was watching i thought about how the starks were beginning to turn on each other, like the lannisters, and why that is (proximity to power?) i think we're meant to make that connection, but i also think that ultimately they'll end up supporting each other because that's just how the starks roll.

i also had stonery thoughts about the meaning of ice vs fire (ice as an enemy of progress, fire as a chaotic force to create new things)

It would be fun if Arya wasn't Arya but didn't the establish you can only use faces of dead people whose faces you've removed? So barring some Face-off style swap, Arya must be Arya

Isle of Wight

Nice.

I barely noticed what Arya and Sansa were jawing about, which I know is going to trip me up some time next season when it pays off and I've forgotten what's going on, yet again. I was too busy spending the episode going "holy shit!" every five minutes. Does that make me some easily entertained sucker? Probably. I'm fine with that.

I thought Sansa acting all retrograde in her scenes with Littlefinger and then snotty with Brienne was a sign that she's definitely playing along to entrap LF.

Yeah, this is the only thing that makes sense -- Sansa is not as young and naive as she once was, so to go through that whole, "You're right, Brienne WOULD have to step in if things came to a head between us" then send Brienne away makes no sense at all otherwise.

Unless she is planning to act against arya

Am I the first boring bastard to mention the chains? How did they get the chains around the submerged dragon? The zombies are useless in water iirc.

The time/distance thing is so fucked beyond repair also - how many hours were they trapped on the Isle of Wight? How far were they from the 300 mile long wall or Hardhome? The time required for Gendry to run back, get a raven sent to Dragonstone, Dany to fly what's supposed to be thousands of miles north etc.

But otherwise good work lads.

It definitely crossed a line imo. The first time that the elision of time and distance was nakedly fundamental to the storyline instead of just a convenience that you could sort of explain away.

All is redeemed by this gif of the wight-in-a-bag raising its head upon hearing the dragon.

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2017/08/18/got-gifs/wight-bag-12.w710.h473.gif

bad planning not to bring a raven or two with them imho

I figure one of the wight giants is now at the bottom of that lake having had the one job of attaching the chains

i don't frequent this thread much but wouldn't the easy explanation of the time/distance stuff be that this is all a story being retold by someone? perhaps Sam?

now that we have the conclusion of Mission Impossible beyond the wall, it seems like it is a giant boondoggle that was done to have an excuse to create a wight-dragon. otherwise there really was no plausible reason for dany to ever go beyond the wall with her dragons (and a little mystifying why she would bring all three)

i'll be pretty disappointed if littlefinger ends up outmanuevering arya, just feel like training under a devious motherfucker like jaqen should put you worlds above a littlefinger

According to reddit detectives they were on the Isle of Wight for about 4 days

Someone upthread mentioned only seeing 7 guys on the expedition. There was a long distance shot right near the beginning where at least ten dudes were visible.

was it ever established that the night king or one of his buddies can freeze water at will? seems implausible that they'd wait around for 4 days just waiting for water to freeze

If they could freeze water at will then Hardhome would have ended differently wouldn't it?

wasn't sure they'd be able to keep the momentum that long w/the surly seven hanging out on the Isle of Wight just waiting but they accomplished it pretty well.

The Hound thought the same thing, which is why he started cursing and chucking rocks

establishing a 'killing the master white walker kills all its wights too' dynamic means we'll probably see a final battle where the humans are gonna get owned pretty bad until a last ditch/suicidal attempt to take out the night king succeeds and all the wights spontaneously disintegrate

Well yeah

Also notable for the Night King's failure to end the series with his first javelin - dude is clearly "playing the long game" lol amirite

Next ep should show some of the bubbling resentment in the walkerbro host - "dude they were all RIGHT THERE, but he has to hot dog it and take out the flying one? He's a lichbag."

lol yeah https://gfycat.com/BlindNeglectedDingo

This episode was the worst yet. So illogical and clunky

I like that the guys who are made of ice are named Ben and Jerry.

The time/distance thing is so fucked beyond repair

otm

Stoked for a White Walker to unexpectedly talk at some point

Was waiting for the first one in the episode to be all "some slag's made a fackin fire ere", most obnoxious cockney accent imaginable etc

Everyone avoiding Bran because he's so weird seems like misdirection, he's sitting on too much hot gossip to leave him sitting under trees in the freezing cold while you get manipulated into plotting against your own family

What was Jon up to while everyone was sitting on the dragon?! It's the second act of dramatic cowardice bringing him back. So stupid. (Still enjoying it, though)

xp I figure it's quite expensive to render the FX of Isaac Hempstead-Wright sitting down, so they only have him in a few eps

i think the idea was supposed to be that jon was caught in 2 minds about whether to gtfo or to go rambo and try to kill the night king. it was p dumb regardless.

Believe we have established that Jon is dumb

echoes of jaime weighing pros and cons riverside re charging the dragon queen

when Dany was bitching to Tyrion in the war room about heroes, she had no idea how big of a lampshade she was hanging