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Yea, the glockenspiel era. 07-08. I also group Sound Of Silver and Dear Science into that bunch. Person Pitch is legit dope, but there was so much better stuff during that era. GADPY was '09 and iirc those records were an improvement. I haven't bothered listening to the 2017 records, but I would guess they sound fine compared to the stuff they were putting out 10 years ago. Also good for Pitchfork for avoiding Jan Wenner levels of "let's give this record 5 stars because it's the dude who sang I Can't Get No Satisfaction."

billstevejim, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

'as we all know', effectively the appeal to consensus.
the bane of my existence.

campreverb, Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

good for Pitchfork for avoiding Jan Wenner levels of "let's give this record 5 stars because it's the dude who sang I Can't Get No Satisfaction."

their version of this was giving Reflektor a 9 lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

yea but they just dunked on them with the Everything Now review

flappy bird, Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

August 18 2006:

People always ask: "When is Pitchfork gonna run a list of the top albums of the 1960s?" The answer now? Probably never. Not that we didn't consider it. It's just that when we sat down to map it all out, we found it would be more rewarding to approach the decade through its songs instead. After all, it was by and large a single-oriented era-- the long-player didn't really take over as a creative medium until the 60s had nearly come to an end. And besides, Revolver's ego is out of hand as it is.

August 21 2017:

On Tuesday, August 22, we present the 200 Best Albums of the 1960s. The epic size of this list allows us to explore all corners of music during the decade, which was one of rapid evolution and astronomical ambition.

John Coltrane and Ornette Coleman changed the face of jazz; Motown smashed chart records and brought pop music to new levels of sophistication; music met politics in a beautiful new way with Brazil’s Tropicália movement; the Velvet Underground created new templates for guitar music; early electronic music from artists like Terry Riley and Pauline Oliveros changed how sound was imagined; and, yes, Dylan and the Beatles became Dylan and the Beatles.

Join us on tomorrow for our look at the best of what one of the great musical decades had to offer.

I'm just being nitpicky, I'm actually looking forward to the write-ups.

mthrn, Monday, 21 August 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

2006: we're hot shit!
2017: shit we need some clicks

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

P4k pulling their own lcd soundsystem

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 21 August 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

This should be cool though. I'm kinda hoping they'll one day re-do their 90s album list though because I'm sure their modern day writers could compile a more interesting one. It's aready been redone before so may as well

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 21 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

Didn't they already redo their 90's list once before?

MarkoP, Monday, 21 August 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

the 90s are different now though

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link

TBH I'd be interested in new versions of the 70s and 80s lists, too. I assume they'd look quite different now. The top tracks write-ups for these two decades they did in 2015 and 2016 were nice.

mthrn, Monday, 21 August 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

^^ that's beautiful. xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 21 August 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

they also need to replace all the 0tt entries that he made them take down lol

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

Yeah those lists are pretty outdated (if that's the right word to use). it's crazy to think that Hounds of Love is somewhere around 95 in their 80s list

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 21 August 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

If they did this list 10 years ago VU would probably be at #1. Now I'm going to guess either Miles, Coltrane or Live at the Apollo.

President Keyes, Monday, 21 August 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

no way

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

In a Silent Way should win. But will it?

Frederik B, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

no

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

actually idk but vu & nico seems most plausible to me

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

Pet Sounds obviously

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

gonna go out on a limb and say a black person will not take the number one spot

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

1. Vanilla Fudge - VANILLA FUDGE (1968)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

they'll definitely want to make a "statement" of some kind so I can't see Pet Sounds being #1. In A Silent Way seems like a decent outside bet tbh

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

Any reason as to why "In a Silent Way" might overtake "A Love Supreme"?

MarkoP, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

they are going to make #1 the Coca Cola song and the write up will be about how Arcade Fire is still DO YOU SEE about the commodification of music

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

it will be extremely bold of them to make the no. 1 album of the '60s a jingle

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

Any reason as to why "In a Silent Way" might overtake "A Love Supreme"?

Cultural momentum. It's definitely been having a moment in the last decade or so

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

it's also easier to talk about its influence on various indie types

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

i for one would rather not see a love supreme top this list *rehashes entire argument from 2011 over which deej got yelled at a lot*

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

No way a love supreme gets it

I didn't really know "in a silent way" had become so praised either tbh... when I first started on ilx I think the "rock critics know better than 80 years of jazz criticism" pick was "on the corner"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

Spiritual hat jazz will def have some strong placings I'm sure

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

I don't anywhere that makes as big a deal of In A Silent Way as this board tbh

I mean it's a good record but idk if it's become universally hailed or whatever.

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

feel like Spiritual Hat Jazz's best stuff/most canonical stuff came out in the 70s but yeah I could see Pharaoh Sanders' "Karma" showing up. I don't really recall Pfork having a lot of love for Sun Ra or Yusef Lateef but who knows. Late-period Coltrane will def be represented.

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

They did a spiritual jazz feature, didn't they? Like an introductory playlist or something.

200 albums is a lot, that's twice as much as the 70s/80s/90s lists, so I'm pretty sure they'll include at least something by Sun Ra.

mthrn, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

the #1 album of the 1960s will be something that can be paired with a delicious dogfish head 90 minute IPA, accompanied by a write-up explaining how the author's first time drinking that beer coincided with a time of renewed appreciation for the album, plus a pun in one of the song titles that relates to something about the brewery

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

i assume all of you are regular october readers like i am

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

xxpost They gave Sun Ra- Singles a 'Best New Reissue' back in December

President Keyes, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

In a Silent IPA

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

they are going to make #1 the Coca Cola song and the write up will be about how Arcade Fire is still DO YOU SEE about the commodification of music

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), 21. august 2017 21:39 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it will be extremely bold of them to make the no. 1 album of the '60s a jingle

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), 21. august 2017 21:39 (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Especially one from 1971

Frederik B, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

lol karl

marcos, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

the #1 album of the 1960s will be something that can be paired with a delicious dogfish head 90 minute IPA, accompanied by a write-up explaining how the author's first time drinking that beer coincided with a time of renewed appreciation for the album, plus a pun in one of the song titles that relates to something about the brewery

― Karl Malone, Monday, August 21, 2017 1:02 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

white light/white hops then

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 21 August 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

Hope to see Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy on there with Sun Ra.

Frederik B, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

Song Cycle will be in there, but not nearly high enough.

flappy bird, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link

Song Cycle is overrated as hell.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 21 August 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

yeah that is a p annoying record

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link

Oh boy, a woke '60s list. Can't wait. I was actually wondering what their late-August decade list would be bc for some reason I thought they had already featured every possible option.

billstevejim, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

Discover America is a much more enjoyable VDP record but I'd rather listen to The Mighty Sparrow tbh

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

Aug 2019 is obviously when "Best of 2010s" albums and singles are happening.

billstevejim, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

Oh boy, a woke '60s list. Can't wait. I was actually wondering what their late-August decade list would be bc for some reason I thought they had already featured every possible option.

Really disgusting that they're being woke about the decade of the Equal Pay Act, the Civil Rights Act and the Stonewall Riots

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link

A woke list would be much more interesting than having the Beatles/stones/Dylan dominate the top 50

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:16 (six years ago) link


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