LCD Soundsystem - American Dream - 9/1/17

idk, i really can't be mad at the new single. actually it's pretty fucking awesome xp

Surprisingly into tonite, it's a good single.

This meme unfortunately is stuck in my mind now... :/ You know, glad that jams is returning to music after his stint in the Trump administration.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/240/899/413.jpg

Tonite is great. Easily the best of the three songs out there.

He is kinda underrated as a vocalist. The ability to both hit the notes, switch falsetto off and on, and still sound like you have no idea what you're doing. That takes practice.

The vocalist thing is interesting because it's reminding me about how he would pick these very idiosyncratic references on each major release and really go to town on them. Specifically:

Mark E. Smith on the debut
Heaven 17/Bowie + Eno on 'Sound of Silver'

I'm not sure if there was some particular thing he was trying on the last one or now (or at least I haven't heard something obvious to me?)

I recommend Lizzy Goodman's Meet Me in the Bathroom oral history for any fans, there's a lot of LCD & DFA stuff in there. There's an amazing story about Murphy taking ecstasy for the first time.

yea I think he's underrated too. which is why I never bought into the "some unshaven schlub just decided to make a record" mystique. he tries to hide it but he's got legitimate vocal talent, given the sort of shouty and yelpy sort of music he's in

There were less heady reasons, too. The show at Madison Square Garden had been booked far in advance and the venue “didn’t think we were going to sell well,” Mr. Murphy said. “They were trying to get a big opener for us,” and suggested a nonsensical double bill with Big Boi from Outkast.

“My theory was, if I make it our last show, we’ll sell it out in two weeks,” he said. The show sold out in minutes. “It wasn’t a total lark, but it was a bit larky,” Mr. Murphy admitted. “But I like making decisions. I find it easy.”

this was pretty obvious but it's still something to hear him cop to it. publicity stunt confirmed.

also not sure why was Big Boi also a big pop star was "a nonsensical choice" as the two acts have shared stages many times since

just another plot by those evil music promoters to have you play a show with someone you massively respect

Why listen to Murphy's latest take on Harry Nilsson/Bowie/etc/etc when you can just listen to the original? These new songs are shit

kind of presumptuous to imply that LCD fans don't know about Nilsson and Bowie - Murphy's often liberal "borrowing" has been well established since "Losing My Edge", and doesn't seem to turn a whole lot of people off. its not why *I* like the band in any case.

James Murphy on why Big Boi was a nonsensical choice:

One of the openers they suggested was Big Boi from OutKast. Why on earth would Big Boi open for us? Big Boi was in one of the biggest, most important hip-hop — no, one of the biggest and most important acts of all time. It didn’t make any sense.

It's almost as if that was the most likely reason. But hey, anything for a snark.

^^^ staggering

kind of presumptuous to imply that LCD fans don't know about Nilsson and Bowie - Murphy's often liberal "borrowing" has been well established since "Losing My Edge", and doesn't seem to turn a whole lot of people off. its not why *I* like the band in any case.

Around the time of Sound of Silver and 45:33 you couldn't find a bigger LCD fan than me. But LCD sound their best when they aren't doing their take on Nilsson/Bowie, in my opinion.. My favourite LCD stuff is still the Get Innocuous/45:33 era groove building tracks they did in 2007.

hmph - always thought Get Innocuous had a huge Bowie influence

You liken it to what Bowie?

that descending voice that comes in halfway through the track - very much sounds like Berlin Bowie to me

the rest of the track not so much, but that's maybe my favorite bit on the album, so...

Does he give credit though? I've never seen "cardboard lamb" or "Jamaica running" mentioned anywhere and he lufted those almost completely.

huge Bowie influence

descending voice that comes in halfway through the track.....the rest of the track not so much

So by "huge" you mean really small? Right.

well it is the money shot

and a flakey bowie influence at best

hmph - always thought Get Innocuous had a huge Bowie influence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M92JO2f4rPw

lots of the 'influences' chat here

i should say it's him playing a bunch of his favourite tunes (Gilbert O Sullivan, Roberta Flack, Nilsson, Bowie, The Fall etc) and talking about them, as 'Lecture' makes it sound very dry and it really isn't.

From the Times interview(s) making the round, basically:

Murphy (on the breakup/makeup): "It wasn’t a total lark, but it was a bit larky."/Bowie made me do it.
Nancy Whang (on the reunion): "It’s crass to say that it was about the money, but it would be insincere to say that wasn’t part of it.”
Al Doyle (on reactions to the Times piece): "I do need y’all to know it wasn’t to grub ticket money.”

revews coming in.. anyone heard it yet from our parish?

Lots of descriptions of this album as "dark" are fascinating me...

when the same word is popping up in multiple reviews it'd be good to have a look at the bio/press kit that came with the promo because those "everybody's saying the album i _______" things are often because the adjective in question was foregrounded in the press materials. which doesn't mean it's not accurate, I don't think it's bullshit for press materials to say "here's a way of listening to the album" but I do think press spin has an actual effect on the way writers talk about records

Certainly when they want to foreground subtle themes. Like, if you start encountering claims that this is a concept album about a man having a breakdown while working at a mall sushi stand, yeah, let me see that press release.

well that's cool, i like when singles fake out the album

If I were an artist with a highly anticipated upcoming album, I would release two identically titled and track-listed albums with totally different music at the same time, just to read the wildly divergent reviews and wait until everyone figured out what happened.

As a fan I think I'd think it was really cool that my favorite band had secretly released two albums at the same time.

*would buy yr merch for a first row ticket*

xp

Each of my seemingly identical albums would secretly include a download code for the other album, because that's only right. Also, they would both be album of the year. And my concerts would not have a front row at all, like the 13th floors in hotels it just won't be there.

No front row? No progress bar? I'm out.

a thread title is but a suggestion to Josh in Scenarios

Honestly, this thread always makes me think one of you crazy contrarians has revived CSNY discussion.

I always loved the idea of an artist making a crappy fake leak ahead of time to fool people

I don't know if anyone's actually done it - IIRC some semi-big name did - but I do remember a lot of people suspecting that Daft Punk and Weezer had done such a thing

yeah didn't Tool do that with Lateralus? or did they just announce a fake title & tracklist?

If I were an artist with a highly anticipated upcoming album, I would release two identically titled and track-listed albums with totally different music at the same time, just to read the wildly divergent reviews and wait until everyone figured out what happened

Old Man Gloom did something very close to this with The Ape Of God.

I think one of the early ones was that No Doubt album where the song titles were right, but each one was just a loop of one part of the song

I remember because the single was literally "feelin' hella good so let's just keep on dancin'" and a couple instrumental stabs... repeated for a couple minutes

I think Madonna did it once?

I think one of the early ones was that No Doubt album where the song titles were right, but each one was just a loop of one part of the song

I remember because the single was literally "feelin' hella good so let's just keep on dancin'" and a couple instrumental stabs... repeated for a couple minutes

lol that rules

ive been trying to think of a single musician or artist i like who was all "I am really concerned bout my legacy".

nope. its some politician bullshit.

there was also the classic merriweather post pavilion leak

you mean when it leaked on Christmas at 8pm or something? yeah that was incredible & one of the best experiences of my life

nah when roxymuzak (?) pissed off a lot of dorks by leaking a fake version

album is ok but unspectacular, 'dark' just means a little more post-punk gloom, including a decent cure pastiche

I Used To is one of my favourite things they've done. I'm guessing that's the Cure pastiche?