pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/10183-sakert/

maura, Monday, 14 August 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link

every day leor galil's little chicago reader piece on pitchfork and tv from earlier this summer feels like it gets more and more prescient (and seems like it ought to get expanded on/investigated further)

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/pitchfork-festival-survive-stranger-things-tv/Content?oid=27726123

austinb, Monday, 14 August 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

also i feel bad about describing the context and spoiling it further so i'm sorry adam

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, August 14, 2017 1:27 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no prob! to be honest i was just kind of joshing cos i was so pissed at pitchfork. i went on the site sunday night and it was right there on the front page.

(but regardless there's more to it than i described and you will still be surprised imo!)

holy shit all episode was like this! i really loved the callback it was both literally "in memory" of Bowie and giving him props for being (in this case) 25 years ahead of his time =)

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link

I'm pissed that p4k spoiled Trump's press conference. Guess I'll delete it from my DVR now

President Keyes, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link

Watch Trump's controversial remarks at the latest press conference. Click it!

...

Hmm? Oh right, um... some people that are musicians probably watched it too.

Evan, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link

their review of the new Cars reissue prompted me to see what they said about their debut. didn't even need the wayback machine for this one:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1319-the-cars-deluxe-edition/

nomar, Thursday, 17 August 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

Songs like "I'm in Touch With Your World" and "Don't Cha Stop" are, to the say the least, not some of the best songs rock music has produced

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 August 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

As we all know, the world's population of geeks had their two hours of glory last night when theaters everywhere opened their doors at midnight, letting millions of rabid fans in for the first full showings of "Star Wars, Episode One: The Phantom Menace."

this should be read in an old-timey newsreel voice.

nomar, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

in the kind of voice that describes some idyllic scene, right before a great atrocity takes place

mh, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZQTKs2YDPc

nomar, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

Let's face it-- the Cars had their moment in the sun. Sure, there a couple of die- hard fans still roaming the planet, making their own rock music and camping out for movie tickets, but it's a rare person that's willing to drop a Jefferson on a nicely remastered, beautifully repackaged, two- disc reissue of The Cars.

niels, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link

"Schreiber out."

nomar, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

lol p4k couldn't give a shit cos selling music is such an afterthought at this point.

who care about The Cars? but read this book by an ex-Pepsi asshole on marketing

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 August 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link

"a Jefferson" means 2 dollars? Or a nickel?

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 17 August 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

cars fans hear them on classic rock radio, why would they even need to buy cds

j., Friday, 18 August 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link

Cars don't even come with CD players anymore

Evan, Friday, 18 August 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link

It’s like some of these prestige television shows, with their slate-blue filters, expensive set pieces, and crisp dialogue. Such series are supremely well constructed, made by creators of great skill and taste, but there’s something lacking in the heart department, something a bit hollow. Painted Ruins, cursorily an album about battling demons, can feel a little like prestige music.

Burn. Funny that this year has seen music by Animal Collective, Dirty Projectors, Fleet Foxes, Arcade Fire and Grizzly Bear, pretty much all the 'prestige music' that p4k promoted about ten years ago, and only Fleet Foxes has gotten bnm'ed. And that album is AWFUL.

Frederik B, Friday, 18 August 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

well I think it hurts more for p4k & many of their readers because 10 years ago all of those bands (fleet foxes aside, i never fucked w them) were making better records.

flappy bird, Friday, 18 August 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

"Hey brochacho! Where you going?"

"It's taco Tuesday man, I gottsta drop a Jefferson!

authentic urban repartee

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 August 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

on mister show in 1997

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 18 August 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

Fleet Foxes album isn't awful, lol

alpine static, Friday, 18 August 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

And also the '07/'08 albums from those 5 bands weren't good.

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 August 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

jk Strawberry Jam is good.

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 August 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Those bands had a run from 2006 - 2009 though, GADPY and all that (what is the P, Phoenix?). Animal Collective had a double in '07 with Strawberry Jam and PB's Person Pitch. Dirty Projectors' Rise Above was a primer for Bitte Orca, same goes for Grizzly Bear with Yellow House & the Friend EP going into Veckatimest. The s/t Fleet Foxes album came out in 2008. and imo, Neon Bible is Arcade Fire's best work.

flappy bird, Saturday, 19 August 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

Yea, the glockenspiel era. 07-08. I also group Sound Of Silver and Dear Science into that bunch. Person Pitch is legit dope, but there was so much better stuff during that era. GADPY was '09 and iirc those records were an improvement. I haven't bothered listening to the 2017 records, but I would guess they sound fine compared to the stuff they were putting out 10 years ago. Also good for Pitchfork for avoiding Jan Wenner levels of "let's give this record 5 stars because it's the dude who sang I Can't Get No Satisfaction."

billstevejim, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

'as we all know', effectively the appeal to consensus.
the bane of my existence.

campreverb, Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

good for Pitchfork for avoiding Jan Wenner levels of "let's give this record 5 stars because it's the dude who sang I Can't Get No Satisfaction."

their version of this was giving Reflektor a 9 lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

yea but they just dunked on them with the Everything Now review

flappy bird, Sunday, 20 August 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

August 18 2006:

People always ask: "When is Pitchfork gonna run a list of the top albums of the 1960s?" The answer now? Probably never. Not that we didn't consider it. It's just that when we sat down to map it all out, we found it would be more rewarding to approach the decade through its songs instead. After all, it was by and large a single-oriented era-- the long-player didn't really take over as a creative medium until the 60s had nearly come to an end. And besides, Revolver's ego is out of hand as it is.

August 21 2017:

On Tuesday, August 22, we present the 200 Best Albums of the 1960s. The epic size of this list allows us to explore all corners of music during the decade, which was one of rapid evolution and astronomical ambition.

John Coltrane and Ornette Coleman changed the face of jazz; Motown smashed chart records and brought pop music to new levels of sophistication; music met politics in a beautiful new way with Brazil’s Tropicália movement; the Velvet Underground created new templates for guitar music; early electronic music from artists like Terry Riley and Pauline Oliveros changed how sound was imagined; and, yes, Dylan and the Beatles became Dylan and the Beatles.

Join us on tomorrow for our look at the best of what one of the great musical decades had to offer.

I'm just being nitpicky, I'm actually looking forward to the write-ups.

mthrn, Monday, 21 August 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

2006: we're hot shit!
2017: shit we need some clicks

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

P4k pulling their own lcd soundsystem

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 21 August 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

This should be cool though. I'm kinda hoping they'll one day re-do their 90s album list though because I'm sure their modern day writers could compile a more interesting one. It's aready been redone before so may as well

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 21 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

Didn't they already redo their 90's list once before?

MarkoP, Monday, 21 August 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

the 90s are different now though

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link

TBH I'd be interested in new versions of the 70s and 80s lists, too. I assume they'd look quite different now. The top tracks write-ups for these two decades they did in 2015 and 2016 were nice.

mthrn, Monday, 21 August 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

^^ that's beautiful. xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 21 August 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

they also need to replace all the 0tt entries that he made them take down lol

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

Yeah those lists are pretty outdated (if that's the right word to use). it's crazy to think that Hounds of Love is somewhere around 95 in their 80s list

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 21 August 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

If they did this list 10 years ago VU would probably be at #1. Now I'm going to guess either Miles, Coltrane or Live at the Apollo.

President Keyes, Monday, 21 August 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

no way

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

In a Silent Way should win. But will it?

Frederik B, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

no

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

actually idk but vu & nico seems most plausible to me

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

Pet Sounds obviously

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

gonna go out on a limb and say a black person will not take the number one spot

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

1. Vanilla Fudge - VANILLA FUDGE (1968)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

they'll definitely want to make a "statement" of some kind so I can't see Pet Sounds being #1. In A Silent Way seems like a decent outside bet tbh

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

Any reason as to why "In a Silent Way" might overtake "A Love Supreme"?

MarkoP, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

they are going to make #1 the Coca Cola song and the write up will be about how Arcade Fire is still DO YOU SEE about the commodification of music

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link


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