HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

Gendry rowing was a popular meme and it still is.

I v much hope The Actor Kevin Eldon was playing the same character who was Ned in the play but for whatever reason ditched that to join the Goldcloaks.

so samwell's a lord now right?

"Yes, but" I think. He's now both taken the Night's Watch oath and tried to become a Maester, both of which require renouncing all lands, titles and the ability to marry. And his father explicitly sent him to the Wall to get him out of the line of succession, threatening to have him subtly killed if he didn't.

he's still technically a man of the night's watch, so he can't hold any titles.

but there's been a lot less oathkeeping in westeros these days, so who knows

Kinda pissed we didn't get a Bronn/Tyrion scene.

also was anyone else shouting at the screen because davos didn't take back the gold he had given to the goldcloaks after gendry walloped them

I noticed that too. Maybe he figured they'd need to pay their way across the river Styx.

i figured he left the gold so that those that found them would find gold in dead soldier's pockets and assume death by corrupt misadventure (which it kind of was i guess)

robbery, corrupt guards, corpses with fermented crab on the lips and tongue = expensive but effective cover

plus maybe they assumed that *tough guy voice*
where they're going, they won't need it

as i mentioned last night, i'm really excited for this crew heading north of the wall, but frightened for them in a way that i haven't been since the first few seasons. it seems like there's no way they're all coming back alive. if i had to guess, jorah is going down, and maybe beric or thoros too.

I'm feeling like you're right but perhaps either Jorah or the Hound will become the very wight they need to show Cersei...

And everyone is flipping out about the possibility of undead hound vs. frankenmountain in that scenario but it feels like there would be more story impact to have the hound character actually able to react to the sight of the mountain as a monster. Two characters that have a significant tension and history finally meeting in battle is only cheap thrills if they're BOTH undead zombies...

not sure Jorah's gonna get sonned by some wight at least not right away, they showed seems to have some investment in his return to full health that isn't centered solely around this adventure.

True. Too often people expect "random" deaths of important characters without realizing that every shocking death so far has been to advance the story in an interesting way. Agree that Jorah (and Gendry) wouldn't make much sense dying after the story went out of its way to bring them back into the picture so recently.

every shocking death so far has been to advance the story in an interesting way.

i'm not sure this is true

gendry becomes a wight and the king of westeros by default. white walkers take over westeros on a technicality

i had some notion about Jorah being immune to the white walkers bc of greyscale but idk.

every shocking death so far has been to advance the story in an interesting way.

i'm not sure this is true

― Karl Malone, Monday, August 14, 2017 12:18 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Proportionate to their role of course but still in regards to the characters we were talking about, they've just reentered the story seemingly for some reason important to the plot and their particular relation to it.

yeah, i'm probably wrong about jorah, it's just a hunch. there was something about the way that he looked back at Daenery as they pushed the boat out into the sea, while jon snow did not, that made it seem like the last time.

i also mentioned beric and thoros as candidate for death, though, and neither one of them has exactly been absent. they've both hovered around the peripheries of the show since the beginning.

i could see beric/thoros becoming a wight as sort of a repudiation of melisandre and the red whatever religion

i guess the only thing is the show's complexity and maze of back channels intrigue is completely gone at this point. like everything leading up to the red wedding was all there to see, if you were looking for it. but it was weaved into the story so effortlessly that you didn't see it coming. S3 reminded me of that theory on that one blog about the end of the Sopranos and everything that led up to it, how there were clues there if you were looking for them. GoT at that juncture was operating at a really high level, but now that Weiss and Benioff are past the books they don't have the same chops. but i think they have figured out how to get this thing moving again, make it really entertaining and consistently visually interesting, and bring it to the end.

Yeah, Jorah becoming a good wight because of grayscale would make sense, and would also kinda legitimize a whole bunch of book threads.

Jorah's really shaking a lot of hands and doing a lot of hugging and kissing for a guy who's like a couple weeks out of greyscale quarantine tbh

i was gonna say!

Beric seems like a goner because the show/books have a knack of killing off the old version of something once there's a new replacement around (3 Eyed Raven, King after King, Night's Watch Commander, etc.) and the Hound seems like he's got the Lord of Light's favor now.

This is where Lady Stoneheart is going in the books, isn't it?

shoutout to netw3rk predicting drogon and jon snow

If (and i really want this to happen) one of Dany’s dragons “sniffs out” Jon’s Targaryen lineage, it would be another of the show’s dragon-centric retcons, along with Dany being invulnerable to fire, being able to call Drogon with her mind, and a full-grown dragon’s scales being susceptible to Qyburn’s Big Crossbow.

i also liked all the smashed pumpkins? squash? in the background of the wreckage as tyrion walked through the burnt fields in the beginning. will famine become a plot point though?

pretty sure.. winter is coming(tm) and sansa has been struggling with getting food storage set up in winterfell.

Tyrion's reaction to the carnage and the execution of the Tarleys really shows his evolution as a character considering the stunt he pulled at the Battle of the Blackwater. And he had the sense to look properly ashamed when Davos reminded him.

The Hound's survival revolves mostly around making it back to the meeting with Cersei and seeing what's become of his brother next to her for the first time (whether or not they ever actually fight they will surely meet again). Stoked for that as much as anything.

I think if we're getting Gendry rowing jokes, then we're definitely getting a Hound/Mountain fan service-off.

Davos to break the ice by noting how half the people at the meeting have died once already.

I v much hope The Actor Kevin Eldon was playing the same character who was Ned in the play but for whatever reason ditched that to join the Goldcloaks.

― nashwan, Monday, August 14, 2017 2:10 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes - his full name is Ned Stark (!), and the shit is likely to hit the fan pretty hard when Davos realises they've murdered him because he was a v important character in season 1

robbery, corrupt guards, corpses with fermented crab on the lips and tongue = expensive but effective cover

Ser Horatio of House Caine will get to the bottom of this, you can be certain. Sunglasses, exit stage left, YAAAAAAAOOOOWWW

also was anyone else shouting at the screen because davos didn't take back the gold he had given to the goldcloaks after gendry walloped them

That was completely in character. People who survived growing up in Flea Bottom, like Davos and Gendry, learned a long time ago that coin isn't worth shit unless it can save your skin or buy you a meal. That gold was in neither category.

Sam was too busy ranting to notice something that probably would have saved a lot of lives, right?

arya has become so loathsome, I hope baelish kills her

Confused why they're risking Gendry on this stupid capture-a-zombie mission when he's seriously needed forging dragonglass into weapons

Loved all the getting the gang back together stuff in this episode but whatever Littlefinger is up to with Arya is easily the most intriguing.

Am I right in thinking that everyone going North of the Wall has had some kind of death based or supernatural experience except the ginger Wildling dude?

Confused why they're risking Gendry on this stupid capture-a-zombie mission when he's seriously needed forging dragonglass into weapons

― sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, August 14, 2017 9:40 PM (forty-four seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

at least they would maybe bring some of these with them? since they're, you know, going to fight white walkers?

I want to see gendry play don't break the ice out there

i kinda thought it would have been clever to have the guards satisfied by the fermented crab & walk off before tyrion came by, because we were all *expecting* it to end in violence ... that the scene ended w/ their faces smashed in was kind of more predictable/cliche than if they'd managed a clean escape imo

a minor criticism but i think the show could do to keep things more unpredictable

I enjoyed the slow development from "please hammer don't hurt 'em" into "It's All Good" into "here comes the hammer"

Confused why they're risking Gendry on this stupid capture-a-zombie mission when he's seriously needed forging dragonglass into weapons

― sansa riff (sarahell), 14. august 2017 23:40 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They can probably spare the half hour it takes to get past the wall and back.

i'm sure it'll be fun to watch but this capture mission is indeed stupid, like a fabricated red herring to pass another episode.

the whole jon/dragon scene was p funny. i guess it wasn't intentional but when dany said, all proud and beaming "i consider them my children" and jon snow just did this look that was like "eh, okay, moving on..."

everyone has those weird cousins...

even if they bring back one zombie i'm not sure that'd illustrate the gravity of the situation

Why doesn't Dany just hop on a dragon and pop over the wall for a quick look-see? Seems like it couldn't take more than a few hours...

The ravens made the trip from winterfell in a few minutes, after all.