what is post-rock - seriously?

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That Jack Schuter book Storm Static Sleep is an earlier book on the history of post-rock that I've had turn up on Amazon recommend searches several times.
I think it's been out for a few years so I thought at least somebody on a post-rock thread might have come across it.
I don't think there are an abundance of books on the subject.
So has anybody here actually read it?

Stevolende, Sunday, 13 August 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

Yes, I read it and I wasn't terribly keen, it felt a little slight although that could just be the spread of bands he chose to write about.

MaresNest, Sunday, 13 August 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

I read it but can't remember anything about it. On that basis I'd hazard a guess it's not essential.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Monday, 14 August 2017 11:26 (six years ago) link

I can't see Savage Republic mentioned in the Fearless index. I thought they were an influence mentioned by several of the bands crucial to post-rock.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

Does Leech mention any connection between Rhys Chatham and Nina canal at all. I remember hearing they were married at one point, but can't find confirmation. been wondering if taht was a relationship or marriage of convenience since she was a Brit living in NYC.
She was also in the band the Gynecologists with him and tehre seems to be quite a lot of space given to Ut.

BTW thinking of Ut I really like Sally Young's later band Quint who do a proggy folky thing on their 1 lp Time Wounds All Heals.

Stevolende, Friday, 25 August 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link

fearless is a really great book. though I still think there is a complete division between the US stuff and the UK originated stuff to the point where I don't really think they are they same gentre; but I'm happy to read about all of these bands together I guess.

akm, Friday, 25 August 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

I still think there is a complete division between the US stuff and the UK originated stuff to the point where I don't really think they are they same gentre

yes to this, but without slint + gybe it would be hard to connect first wave uk stuff to the quiet/loud boreathons of latter day uk + global post rock

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 25 August 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

fearless is a really great book. though I still think there is a complete division between the US stuff and the UK originated stuff to the point where I don't really think they are they same gentre; but I'm happy to read about all of these bands together I guess.

― akm, Friday, August 25, 2017 9:41 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i sort of agree with this, other than the fact that mogwai - the biggest uk post-rock group? - are hugely influenced by slint (later stuff not so much)

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 August 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

actually i was thinking that this would make a pretty good audio companion to the book and i guess the mix of uk and us wasn't especially jarring to me at the time:

https://image.ibb.co/iTVRrk/moon_men.jpg

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Monsters-Robots-Bug-Men-A-Users-Guide-To-The-Rock-Hinterland/release/178563

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 25 August 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

I thought there wasa lot of interplay between bands across the Atlantic anyway. Not sure if results would be immediately recognisable but know taht a band like Bark Psychosis was heavily indebted to the Swans dynamics and both Graham Sutton and John ling hitched following Dinosaur Jr around in '89.

I know taht NYC nouise thing as well as bands like the Butthole Surfers were very popular among bands that went onto be significant in Post-Rock. Also Slint of course.
Trying to think what fed back across the opposite direction.

Not got very far into the book, just reading about MBV being a jangle pop band which wasn't the way I remembered seeing them when i did before they became ghuge. I was thinking more noisey garagey stuff verging on psychobilly back in 1986. So was janglepop a transitive stage or was it a longer term thing somehwere between there and '88. Just trying to think when I followed teh first Silverfish tour which was as support for them and by which time i was thinking much more Sonic Youth.
I keep coming across things in the book that I disagree with and clunky sentences. So I think she's not going to be one of my prefered writers. I found Seasons They Change far too listy too.

Stevolende, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

Has Leech effectively excised all the bands who had ties in with the garage/psychobilly scene's pasts? I haven't seen any reference to the Wolfhounds or the early pre Debbie Googe days of MBV. Would have tghought it might be something taht she might at least refer to possibly as the primitive rock they were supposed to be post i.e. as a major contrast.

Did I hear that MBV actually first formed as ex-pat Irish in Berlin and already had some influence from Einsturzende Neubauten etc from formation or was that a revisionist history at the time.

Stevolende, Saturday, 26 August 2017 11:14 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

Here to muddy the water further re: "what is post-rock?" how about post-rock 1979-1989:

'Post-Rock 1979-1989': https://t.co/XCJUpvI8J9

Post-rock as a continuum of exploration...

w/ Gigi Masin, Laughing Hands, Massacre, Michael Brook, @_thisheat_ Hraold Budd, Material, Spacemen 3, Dif Juz, Dome, The Cure, MBV, Glenn Branca, @DuruttiColumn Colin Newman, Talk Talk pic.twitter.com/zT2nMSNzHE

— Musicophilia (@musicophiliamix) January 19, 2021

Soundslike, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link

it's when you play the guitar and post to ILX at the same time

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link

Soundslike, this mix is wonderful! Thank you.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 21 January 2021 04:25 (three years ago) link

Thank you, glad you're enjoying it!

Soundslike, Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

I'd missed this until now: Bundy K Brown's band Directions (In Music, sometimes) released a single in 1997 that seems to have vanished out of sight. It was re-released last year and a couple of the remixes are wonderful. This could be on Underworld's Drift series or the Alabaster DePlume record we all lost our minds over during the first lockdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUCO5J5E0QA

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 7 March 2022 12:19 (two years ago) link


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