GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

Fast Car became ubiquitous when it was released and was a huge hit on MTV and radio and was a top ten hit on the Billboard charts

I know. I was asking how it became so ubiquitous with avant garde artists doing totally out there versions of it. Tho tbh I can only think of.... 3 off the top of my head. Sorry this is a weird thread to post this in. I hope Lena runs in 2020.

So...Lenny Dykstra

he's been on fire ever since his interviews on Howard last year

"American Bitch" (with the novelist creep) is a great episode. I can only remember two other episodes that I thought were that good (granted, I've skipped around a lot) - the early one where Hannah sleeps with an older guy in a nice townhome and imagines a bourgeois life, the one from season 4 or 5 where Marnie hooks up with her ex. Makes me wonder about an alternate show without the standard wacky comic touches and the rest of the cast.

Yep, feel the same between "American Bitch" and "One Man's Trash." No subplots or minor characters, just a single extended story.

all three of those episodes were unique in the Girls universe as one off stories instead of part of the larger narrative. Where there others?

Lena Dunham and Jenni Konner defend 'Girls' writer amid sexual assault claim: "We stand by Murray" https://t.co/46J9Aa7SOA pic.twitter.com/cLNMpPzIwV

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) November 18, 2017

I finally watched the last 2 seasons of this, away from any hype/expectations. I really enjoy this show, kind of in the way I like Peep Show - the characters say depressingly funny things that touch a nerve and neatly encapsulate the type of annoying person they are, and it handles 'friendship with people you kind of hate' really well, but I don't care about the storylines particularly or how DRAMATIC Jessa/Adam's relationship is. The final dialogue with Jessa and Hannah calling it even was very reminiscent of the end of Peep Show. I guess I don't mind that the characters are flawed (awful) except when they continue to do things that are so stupid it's stretching any credibility (Hannah on that road trip, Mark with the vanity publishing etc)

The pregnancy ending throughout the final season had me rolling my eyes so hard because it's the equivalent of ending with a big wedding or w/ever but actually the final episode being about pressures and difficulties of breastfeeding and anxiety about everything making you act like a nightmare and wondering what on earth you've done (totally normal ime), rather than the actual birth, was refreshing. Maybe less so if you haven't been there.

'American Bitch' was a real highlight. In general Desi/Marnie had me laughing quite a lot but Marnie on her own was toooooo much.

I guess I don't mind that the characters are flawed (awful) except when they continue to do things that are so stupid it's stretching any credibility

this embodies so much of why I lost interest in this show. It's not nearly as plausible when they keep making the same mistakes for the 9th, 10th, 11th times

Like Nurse Jackie, it felt realistic that they kept making the same mistakes, but I was still less and less compelled to watch them making them.

more like lena dudham

xp i don't think girls got quite nurse jackie bad but i take your point

no you're right, i watched all of girls but peaced out on nurse jackie a coupla seasons before the end

If I knew anybody in the screen trade I think they'd be laughing as they throw things at the wall. https://t.co/CCUuLaaczz

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) October 29, 2018

well that should end well

so I've been idly re-watching some of these and this really jumped out at me:
https://youtu.be/3kniMAzPRAk?t=179

Natalia's prediction = the end of the show

Hannah's dad being gay is also foreshadowed in Ezra's very first scene, where he directly states that Hannah should have known that Ezra was gay in college *because of her dad*

some of this show's whiplash plot contrivances made me predisposed to not think they were capable of that kind of foreshadowing/foresight but idk now

I feel like I remember it being pretty strongly implied that he was gay early on in the show? Isn't there also something about going on "trips" with men?

sorry when I said Ezra I meant Elijah, so that reference is all the way back in the third episode, before her parents have had v much revealed about them (besides the fact that they've threatened to cut off economic support of Hannah)

yeah, I think I also remember catching that reference though

p sure I missed it the first time around

just made me think of how that particular reveal didn't come out of the blue unlike, say, Hannah's OCD in season 3

anyway, the Natalia thing was more striking, because that breastfeeding comment is so specific

*sees Lena Dunham trending on twitter*

:)

man the laughs really do start to evaporate in season 3

altho Desi's "confused Clapton" face is a welcome insufferably ridiculous addition

https://www.thecut.com/2018/11/lena-dunham-comes-to-terms-with-herself.html

flappy's looking for this one, I think

meanwhile

this embodies so much of why I lost interest in this show. It's not nearly as plausible when they keep making the same mistakes for the 9th, 10th, 11th times

― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, June 28, 2018 9:12 PM (four months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

apparently, per the article (among other evidence), this is exactly how lena dunham has lived her life and her family deals with it through begrudging acceptance

lol

negative reviews of Camping, the HBO show she co-wrote with her Girls partner, Jenni Konner,

I had no idea this was her show. also it was terrible, couldn't make it through the first episode

There's a lot going on in that profile.

it's one of the few profiles I've read where it's clear that the writer/interviewer found the entire endeavor tiring

not to mention: Race is a chronic blind spot for her because she didn’t grow up with a lot of diversity in her New York City private school, she explains.

those last two words doing so much work

i can't get through this

what's the opposite of a thoughtful person

In general she's terrible, Tiny Furniture was fine, the start of Girls was good (got bored of it and her after 3 -4 seasons? and it had a hand in making greenpoint and williamsburg unliveable) but I appreciate her narcissism and prolificness that doesn't care whether people like or hate it. I am trying to think of another woman that produced so much work that young that is this terrible.

I support lena dunham. Being rich and eccentric isn’t the worst thing on earth.

She’s definitely said regrettable things but she’s apologized, I think. I don’t get the hatred except for the fact that she’s an easy target.

I do give her some credit for trying to get the Clinton campaign to distance itself from Weinstein. Not reading that profile though lol

She's an easy target because she's insufferable and successful like how usually only men are that insufferable and successful. That's the part I admire. The annoying thing is when people use her as the face of: feminism, millennials, new yorkers, hipsters, brooklyn, etc.

She’s definitely a little insufferable but also somewhat talented and charming. Obviously unsuited to be the “face of feminism” but she didn’t ask for that and it mostly seems like conservatives who want to tag her as that. As a face of millennial brooklynites.... idk it kind of fits.

idk y'all every other quote in this profile feels like an embarrassing gaffe in itself

like i deeply agree she's too easy of a target but she... keeps... doing... it

personally i also have no interest in women who are finally as shitty as men

equity!

Also it seems weird to be super harsh on her when part of her deal is being very upfront about her flaws and limitations. So much of how people exist today has to do with seeming irreproachable and perfect—she is kind of refreshing because she’s so much the opposite of that.

I don't think she can ever apologize away her public statement defending her friend that was accused of sexually assaulting an actress that was a minor at the time.

she's upfront about what she thinks are her flaws and limitations. the apologies are a result of her constantly running up against new (to her, i guess, old to the rest of us) limitations

I support lena dunham. Being rich and eccentric isn’t the worst thing on earth.

― Trϵϵship, Monday, November 26, 2018 2:49 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is pretty much her tagline! it's her version of "people hate me because I'm beautiful"

the other line from the profile that really stood out:

She sent a screenshot of a motivational text conversation she’d had with her friend Lady Gaga, who is saved in her contacts as Lady Gaga, not as Stefani.

every time the word "friend" pops up after that, the whole concept is just kind of hanging there

i mostly don't need to read interviews with "makers" whether i like their work or not

JUSTICE 4 LAMBY

I watched this movie on netflix this weekend that I am learning was called "Literally, Right Before Aaron" because on my netflix it was called "The Wedding Guest" or something. It feels so strange that they are still making these types of movies where the main character is highly unlikeable, neurotic, self absorbed and self sabotages everything. Is this a genre? (bringing it up because it's Dunham's genre).

Better that than more movies about the Avengers