Tim: deep house.
― resolved, Sunday, 20 April 2008 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link
and it's very good, but drastic change in the output under that moniker following it.
― resolved, Sunday, 20 April 2008 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Received this e-mail from !K7:
Coup!
!K7 are buzzing on the announcement that the next installment in the DJ-Kicks series comes from the hugely acclaimed, underground dubstep producer BURIAL at the end of June. The South London producer is notoriously shy of press and public performances yet his last two albums on Kode 9's Hyperdub label have established him as one of the global leaders in this exploding scene on word-of-mouth alone.
The latest DJ Kicks from Four Tet, Henrik Schwarz, Booka Shade and Hot Chip have all pushed new limits in eclecticism, making linear genre-specific DJ mixes a thing of past... so who knows where Burial will take it next. We hear whisperings from the studio that he may treat his dearest dubstep, techno and even r'n'b tracks with his unique production style before mixing them with exclusive material and... well watch this space.
― crispyben, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 10:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm intrigued.
― chap, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Resolved, yeah I've heard the release since then - one of the tracks is Theo Parrish shuffle!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Didn't realize Burial was even a DJ. . . I could see this being very one note somehow.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link
He isn't a dj.
― jim, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe he'll get Plaid to do little interludes for him (hah!)
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
New ~scape compilation 'Round Black Ghosts' looks pretty great.
Tracklisting:
01 Martyn - Velvet 02 2562 - Channel Two 03 Untold - Test Signal 04 Pole - Alles Klar 05 Syncom Data - Beyond the Stars (SD Mix) 06 Ramadanman - Response 07 Pinch - 136 Trek 08 Peverelist - The Gris 09 Elemental - Raw Material 10 Pangaea - Coiled
― Tim F, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 07:25 (sixteen years ago) link
BTW this was the Burial DJ Kicks I made last year (for a friend who liked the first Burial album and wanted 'context'):
1. Nu-Birth - Anytime (Dem 2's Nice & Sleazy Mix) 2. Horsepower Productions - Fist of Fury 3. Skream - Midnite Request Line 4. Wiley - Pick Yourself Up (Target Instrumental Mix) 5. Aaliyah - We Need A Resolution 6. Tricky ft. PJ Harvey - Broken Homes 7. Donnacha Costello - Dry Retch 8. Pole - Tanzen 9. Rhythm & Sound - Truly (Vladislav Delay Remix) 10. Dillinja - The Angels Fell 11. Hidden Agenda - Dispatch #2 12. DJ Shadow - You Can't Go Home Again 13. Johnny Dark - HCD 2
― Tim F, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 07:32 (sixteen years ago) link
VS
1 Skream Untitled (3:09) 2 Digital Mystikz Ancient Memories (3:23) 3 Loefah & Skream 28 Grams (3:53) 4 Loefah Midnight (3:08) 5 Skream Midnight Request Line (3:41) 6 D1 Crack Bong (Loefah Remix) (2:41) 7 Skream I (2:55) 8 Loefah Goat Stare (3:01) 9 Skream Monsoon (Loefah Remix) (3:15) 10 D1 Higher State (3:42) 11 Loefah Root (4:42) 12 D1 I Believe (3:51) 13 Digital Mystikz Neverland (5:42)
― J@cob, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 08:30 (sixteen years ago) link
It just seems to me that those two tracklistings immediately sum up what's different about dubstep now versus 2-3 years ago...
― J@cob, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 08:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Are you trying to criticise the shift or what Jacob? Or just note that expansion in artist base?
Because, yeah, "Midnite Request Line" and "Higher State" and "I Believe" and (especially) "Neverland" are great but that is it on Dubstep Allstars 2. The rest is deathly boring.
But you could totally make a boring contemporary dubstep tracklist - just lots of Caspa, Benga, bad Cotti etc.
Whereas Martyn and Untold and 2562 and Peverelist are actually very good!
― Tim F, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 08:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I was meaning more insular local-based scene with a few tightly-knit producers and more of an urban edge versus globalised and slightly IDM-ish.
No qualitative judgement on that but it's marked. Kind of like jungle around 97-8 or so.
― J@cob, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 10:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay yeah, point taken.
Funnily enough, from my perspective it's kind of like the ends against the middle - Caspa etc. are on the other side of Digital Mystikz, Skream etc. from the Bristol dub-techno axis. I guess they're like the modern drum & bass equivalent - not IDM at all.
If I was sentimental about older dubstep I'd be worried about this shift to a bipolar genre, but pretty much everything I ever liked about dubstep (it's delicate, feminine, uptempo moments) are almost all on the one side. Maybe if 05/06 had been the story of Mala more than the story of Loefah/Coki, I'd feel differently.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 10:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Sully's "Give Me Up" and "Flashback" are pretty awesome pieces of Toastboy-style junglist breakstep.
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link
tracklisting leaked for burial!!!
"stir it up" - bob marley "i can see clearly now" - johnny nash "don't turn around" - ace of base "six underground" - sneaker pimps "love theme from 'last temptation of christ'" - peter gabriel "mutant jazz" - t power "we tryin to stay alive" - wyclef "here i come baby" - ub40 "emergency on planet earth" - jamiroquai "alphabet aerobics" - blackalicious "high hopes" - tali "digital" - goldie ft krs-one "tomorrow people" - ziggy marley "i can see clearly now" - johnny nash
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 April 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
That looks remarkably... awful. But could be unexpectedly brilliant. Nice to see "mutant jazz" coming out of the woodwork though.
― J@cob, Friday, 25 April 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Um that is totally made up, J@cob.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 25 April 2008 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link
dubstep allstars 2 is still my favorite dubstep comp
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 25 April 2008 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link
also alex in sf is a dirty liar
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 25 April 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Allstars 2 is the last time I felt I could really connect with the genre. It's a bitch move to diss something because of it's fans, but fuck it, I find the whole thing way too student-y these days...
― J@cob, Friday, 25 April 2008 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Dubstep Allstars really need to get Oneman on the case. The way he mixes current dubstep with old 2-step is sublime.
― sam500, Friday, 25 April 2008 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link
My favourite dubstep qua dubstep mix is the Scuba mix from last year linked to upthread (I think it's on the hotflush website).
For a handy encapsulation of the new techno-dub/2-step revival trends check out this great mix here:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=54397327&blogID=368375169
D.R.E.A.M. dub rules everything around me volume 1
tracklisting:
1. likhan - uwill 2. pinch - 136 trek 3. likhan - terre 4. pangaea - nest 5. untold - test signal 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8. peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 - circulate 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk 15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17. 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus
― Tim F, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 11:31 (fifteen years ago) link
nice piece by kiran sande over at Fact on dutch duo martyn and 2562 here. i've seen they've already been mentioned a couple of times up thread.
i have to say, martyn is really doing it for me these days. i have a great track of his on a mixtape (broken?? - poss unreleased) that has this lovely dreamy quality (despite the jiy-normus bassline).
― sam500, Monday, 12 May 2008 06:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I've probably avoided posting here since I can really only learn from this thread and not contribute, but what's the deal with Darkstar? I ended up downloading a couple songs from a Hyperdub release on emusic and it seems quite a bit different from a lot of other things I've heard.
― mh, Monday, 12 May 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
RE: Appleblim Rinse FM Podcast
Is it possible to get it in more than 128kbps? A cursory skim shows t's probably best not wasted on a low bitrate listen.
― mehlt, Monday, 12 May 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link
the 128kbs factor has kind of put me off listening to the rinse podcasts (probably to my detriment). i don't think they come at a higher bitrate unfortunately.
what i've heard of the D.R.E.A.M. mix sounds excellent so far (at 320kbs!!). thanks for the linkage.
― sam500, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 05:20 (fifteen years ago) link
LOL@ the idea that pirate radio should come in high fidelity quality
― J@cob, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 05:37 (fifteen years ago) link
perhaps this is something The Radio Authority could look into...
― sam500, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 05:45 (fifteen years ago) link
For one, this is a podcast for an established website, not pirate radio, no? Second, listening to just 10 minutes of this mix makes me feel like I'm in love. It's like the initial ambivalence I've felt toward what I've generally found to be too blocky and grimey for my tastes (e.g. Benga)* has been answered, and how. Like, mixes like this might be opening doors to new ways of approaching music for the next few years. If this was released as a CD I'd definitely buy it.
― mehlt, Sunday, 18 May 2008 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Rinse is a pirate radio station that happens to have a website.
Appleblim has mixed the latest Dubstep Allstars which you'll be able to buy on CD soon enough.
― jim, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link
And which is incidentally really fucking good.
― jim, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Tracklist?
Can someone explain to me the big deal about Flying Lotus btw? This is just Ninja Tune/Mo Wax redux, right?
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I agree.
― jim, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
1 Peverelist - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #01] Gather 2 Peverelist & Applebim - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #02] Circling 3 Pinch - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #03] Get Up 4 2562 - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #04] Moog Dub 5 Martyn - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #05] Suburbia 6 Jus Wan - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #06] Action Potential 7 2562 - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #07] Morvern Dub 8 TTG & Selector Dub U - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #08] Harajuku 9 Peverelist - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #09] Infinity Is Now 10 Skream - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #10] Percression 11 RSD - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #11] Pretty Bright Light 12 Mungo's HI FI - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #12] Babylon 13 Komonazkuk - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #13] Bad Apple 14 Komonazkuk & Gatekeeper - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #14] Cheeky Herbert 15 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #15] Decisions 16 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #16] Put You Down (Ramadanman Refix) 17 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #17] Broken Hearts (Martyn's DCM Remix) 18 Geiom - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #18] Reminiscing (Dubplate Version)
― jim, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Wow no Shackleton. Interesting looking.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
flying lotus is j dilla redux
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
for some people (such as myself) mo wax redux would be a very big deal
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I think that's quite an insult to Dilla frankly.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
You may love Los Angeles then!
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Seriously it sounds totally instrumental hip hop '96 to me with a few '00s production touches thrown in!
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean Donuts was only the end all be all of Dilla to guys Pincock. Most of Dilla's stuff was more than just production fan boy drool bait.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
oh? how about this then?
most mo'wax >>>>> dilla
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
cough, splutter, choke
Well that's nonsense.
What Mo Wax do you rate, Vahid?
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
RPM? Palmskin Productions? UNKLE? La Funk Mob?
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
MW 004 Marden Hill Come On (12") MW 005 RPM Food Of My De-Rhythm (12") MW 006 Federation Life So Free (12") MW 008 Bubbatunes This Is Just A Dance (12") MW 009 Palm Skin Productions Time & Space EP (12") MW 012 DJ Takemura* Hoping For The Sun (12") MW 013 Palm Skin Productions In A Silent Way (12") MW 014 DJ Shadow & The Groove Robbers In/Flux / Hindsight (12") MW 017 La Funk Mob Tribulations Extra Sensorielles (2x12") MW 018 RPM 2000 / Sortie Des Ombres (12") MW 020 Attica Blues Vibes, Scribes 'N' Dusty 45's E.P. (12", EP, Blu) MW 023 La Funk Mob Casse Les Frontières, Fou Les Têtes En L'Air (2x10") MW 024 DJ Shadow / DJ Krush Lost & Found / Kemuri (12") MW 027 DJ Shadow What Does Your Soul Look Like (12") MW 028 U.N.K.L.E.* The Time Has Come E.P. (2x12", EP) MW 029 Palm Skin Productions The Beast / Trousers I Never Wore (12") MW 029 R Palm Skin Productions The Beast Remix (12") MW 032 P Money Mark Album Sampler (10", Promo, Smplr) MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12") MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12", Promo, W/Lbl) MW 031 Sam Sever And The Raiders Of The Lost Art What's That Sound? (12") MW 032 Money Mark Cry / Insects Are All Around Us (7") MW 033 DJ Krush / DJ Shadow A Whim / 89.9 Megamix (12") MW 034 LP Money Mark Mark's Keyboard Repair (LP) MW 038 Attica Blues Blueprint (12") MW 039 LP DJ Krush Meiso (2xLP) MW 040 Andrea Parker Melodious Thunk (12") MW 045 Andrea Parker The Rocking Chair (12") MW 049 Innerzone Orchestra Bug In The Bassbin (12") MW 056 CD Various Excursions (2xCD) MW 060 DJ Krush Only The Strong Survive (12") MW 065 Urban Tribe Eastward (12") MW 067 DJ Attica Blues Tender (12", Promo) MW 069 U.N.K.L.E.* Berry Meditation (12", TP) MW 077 LP DJ Krush Milight (2xLP) MW 079 Attica Blues 3ree (A Means To Be) (12") MW 083 As One Planetary Folklore (LP) 524 589-2 Urban Tribe The Collapse Of Modern Culture (CD) MW 095 Andrea Parker Ballbreaker / Some Other Level (10", Ltd) MWR 105 CD Major Force West 93-97 (CD) MWR 141 CD David Axelrod David Axelrod (CD) MWR 155 CD Jordan Fields Moments In Dub (CD) MWR 159 CD Parsley Sound Parsley Sounds (CD)
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link
and i left out stuff that mo'wax compiled, like dj assault, liquid liquid, dj magic mike, divine styler, etc
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
the only stuff on mo'wax that i don't like is the solesides-related stuff (blackalicious, dj shadow, etc) and the nigo, tommy guerrero, etc vanity projects that crept in toward the end.
highly rate: andrea parker, urban tribe, as one, major force west, UNKLE, palmskin productions, la funk mob, attica blues all the various awesome major force and carl craig and 4 hero remixes they put on those early EPs
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link