to what extent does your life revolve around alcohol?

the great bourbon renaissance/marketing push got booker's into a lot of hotel bars and that is cool with me

my dad (rip) was a bells whiskey man day to day, but laphroiag was his special day groove.

mmm booker's

mmm laphroiag

mmm phenols

Wrong

laphroaig tastes like tcp

and not in a good way

the great bourbon renaissance/marketing push got booker's into a lot of hotel bars and that is cool with me

Fuckers recently doubled the price of a bottle.

yeah, that part not good. I should have marked that tip "expense account only"

OK, I was wondering if the drink price was still completely nonsensical at this hotel restaurant, and it is:
http://prod-admin1.denihan.atex.cniweb.net:8080/fileserver/file/12306/filename/Primehouse%20Wine%20List%204.20.2017.pdf

Angels Envy 25
Basil Hayden 14
Bookers 12
Bulleit 12
Colonel E.H. Taylor 14
Knob Creek 12
Maker’s Mark 14
Noah’s Mill 16
Willett, ‘Pot Still Reserve’ 24
Woodford Reserve 16

So uh, Bulleit and Bookers are the same price despite one being twice as much per bottle, and Maker's costs more than either?

all the prices are gouging, but the pricing makes absolutely no sense when you gauge the different drinks against each other

oh yeah and jack daniels is $13

lol

i've done it enough times but i think i am done ordering a whiskey neat in a bar, it hurts to pay that much for something that i can have so easily at home. if i'm going to pay $15 for a drink i want some labor going into that drink

Menu prices have very little to do with what each thing costs in a retail setting.

and even less with what things cost at wholesale, but my life has revolved around alcohol enough to know this list is batshit crazy

laphroaig tastes like tcp

― for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:02 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and not in a good way

― for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:02 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it's the phenols. it literally has the same compounds in it as tcp and that explains the aromatic similarity

Only times I order whiskey at a bar are when there's something really special or hard to find on the menu at a (relatively) reasonable price. That list is wacky. $25 for Angels Envy? All that shit on there is pretty standard at almost any store save the Taylor, so if anything that one should be more expensive.

Anyway, this is how you price whiskey:

http://www.longmanandeagle.com/whiskey/

ha I bounce between there and Reno whenever I visit my sister

Hitchens was right about this: once you dabble in Macallan, it's hard to try anything else.

Basil Hayden 14
Bookers 12
Bulleit 12
Colonel E.H. Taylor 14
Knob Creek 12
Maker’s Mark 14
Noah’s Mill 16
Willett, ‘Pot Still Reserve’ 24
Woodford Reserve 16

So uh, Bulleit and Bookers are the same price despite one being twice as much per bottle, and Maker's costs more than either?

― mh, Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:11 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is dollars?! Criminal.

I really try not to drink often these days and I feel so much better having adopted that, but I still enjoy my Belgian dubbels, trippels, and quads like there ain't no tomorrow.

so the average response in this thread: I can't drink too often because I'll go too far; or, I drank too often, therefore I drink little to nothing now. This depresses me. I make no judgment on anyone.

http://i.imgur.com/7afqZIe.jpg

xp Have a Belgian beer place like a block from my house and I feel that. Generally keep it as a kind of treat though, cuz damn does a tab there get expensive.

I pretty much drink until drunk nearly every Friday and Saturday night, though have a good handle on limits and am in control. Also one night during the week, generally Wednesday. Still a huge part of my social life (single, early 30s), but I'm getting to the point where the hangovers are outweighing the pleasures. Something might need to change soon. I'm in good physical shape though. Feel like a big part of me working out has been to keep this lifestyle feasible and not be a total wreck, but mentally it's getting rough. Been such a routine for so long, not sure where to go from here.

w/ me Alfred it's more that after I increased my anti-anxiety med dosage to 150 mg I began realizing that at the old dosage, alcohol and the meds didn't really have issues co-existing, but now the two definitely don't play nice if I have more than say, three drinks. sometimes the rebound anxiety is excruciating.

lol at the tab comment circa, yeah the problem with enjoying such treats = they ain't cheap

I suspect my daily / weekly intake probably moves the median in a less depressing direction, Alfred, although my doctor wouldn't agree.

Laphroaig made me wonder why iodine doesn't have more culinary uses.

Sheesh @ the laphroiag haters

I think I have a well-rounded palate for booze as long as it's not too sweet. There's a pizza restaurant near us that seems like it might just be a way for the owner(s) to write off a ridiculous amaro collection on their taxes, and I've enjoyed some of the truly odd ones. I will go for many, many types of whisky. I am also fond of anisettes. This is a long way of saying that the list of what I like is longer than the list of what I find worthless and/or disgusting. What I can't deal with:

- "session" IPAs; just make a goddamn pale ale, or call it a Light IPA, you jackasses
- white rum, silver tequila, moonshine, or any of that clear bullshit that's obviously better after some barrel school
- the vast, vast majority of wine, I used to like this stuff but really, grapes? I can't anymore.
- fancy vodka, why
- soda beverages in my drink - tonic, cola, or sprite, who cares, stop
- limoncello, jesus

we have a tequila bar here now that's mostly great ambiance/music place instead of a tasting bar but the menu is half tequila, half bottled beer

i'm making my way through anejos

I wish I could remember where in New Orleans I saw Lagavulin for $11 a few weeks ago, after never seeing it for less than $19 in any other bar.

wow people must have forgotten Ron Swanson already

I might be into peaty scotch laphroaig-style these days, but I have had quite the aversion in the past

my only alcohol/life balance issue is, now that I have my life relatively balanced, is not being good at keeping up with water and food when I go out. I very seldom drink to regret, although with age I'm noticing memory is more grey when I've been out socializing and drinking. I think part of it is a lack of anxiety making me hyper-focused on awkward moments and replaying them the next day, and just genuinely relaxing instead, though!

I've been taking a small amount of kratom before getting on the plane and all of a sudden I don't get the interminable headaches that were an inevitability of flying the previous few years.

Me three! Getting to the airport early before a trip starts for a martini is one of life's civilizing pleasures.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 10, 2017 12:48 PM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i approve of the general concept, but bless you for finding a good martini at the airport.

I drink when I meet up with friends or go see shows, otherwise it's a beer or glass of whiskey a couple evenings per week. Don't always want to drink when out as 3 drinks is the point where a day-long hangover becomes a 50/50 shot, depending on how carefully I look after myself (if I'm biking home I usually end up dehydrated without realizing it). I have a family wedding to go to with all my rowdy cousins and I'm dreading the day after, I haven't been truly drunk in ages.

honestly, airports are more likely to have someone doing things literally by a book, using shot measuring and mixing via checklist than some restaurants offering cocktails but having some guy who knows how to poorly eyeball a shot and use a soda gun who says "what?" if you ask for a manhattan

I went with friends to a suburban restaurant that was supposed to be pretty good by local standards. Ordered food in the bar area, and I was ordering some flavored margarita (hah) off the menu guessing their bar acumen was iffy, my friend asked for a negroni because I mentioned it was a good summer drink.

waitress had never heard of campari, neither had the bartender, and they didn't have it

if you drink a plethora of things you quickly can sniff out via a glance at the bar and menu selection whether it's a real bartending situation or a mixers/liquor plus exactly what is on the menu situation

because I have ordered drinks at a bunch of places

- "session" IPAs; just make a goddamn pale ale, or call it a Light IPA, you jackasses

Used to think this, have come around a bit. 1) I've started to have some really good session beers, so people must be getting better at making them and 2) I'd always argue with my wife, why drink Bud or Coors or any other shit beer? Why bother? And her argument is (fair) that if you hit the good craft stuff over the course of a game or something you'll end up sick or on the floor. Session beers allow you to keep drinking without ending up on your ass.

- white rum, silver tequila, moonshine, or any of that clear bullshit that's obviously better after some barrel school

Barrels definitely change and improve stuff, but there is nothing wrong with silver tequila, aka blanco tequila, aka still the product of 100% pure agave, a plant that takes 7 years to mature in only a couple specific environments. Even reposado or anejo, it's really not aged that long. White whiskey can go fuck itself, though, fuck you white whiskey makers for being so desperate to get something on the shelf while your other stuff sits in barrels that you've convinced people your bullshit bathtub booze is worthwhile.

- the vast, vast majority of wine, I used to like this stuff but really, grapes? I can't anymore.

Yeah, I'm not picky about reds, but really don't like whites.

- fancy vodka, why

Vodka can be made by anyone, anywhere, with almost anything. I once heard vodka described as an elaborate joke the rest of the world played on America.

- soda beverages in my drink - tonic, cola, or sprite, who cares, stop

I'm cool with this, not fucking sprite or anything, but a good G&T is sublime, and can't beat stuff like Campari mixed with mineral water for a refreshing summer sipper.

- limoncello, jesus

Yeah, fuck this melted popsicle shit.

OE with the cold-when-blue sensor or gtfo

otm

The insipid wateriness of session ales is part of what made me come back around to plain old Coors, 'Gansett, Natty Boh, etc. I'd rather have a purpose-built 4% lager than waste my time finding the unicorn that is a successful attempt to shove a square IPA peg into a round all-day-drinking hole.

That, and the record hot summers, and realizing if I'm going to pay $5 and like my Tecate when I go out for tacos that have radishes in them, why not just pay $6 and have more fun on my patio?

stiegl radler baby

3/4 of the craft beers from Texas are summer beers, I'm never lacking for light + tasty.

Psh, shandys. Stiegl Radler is like 2.5 alcohol, barely beer and fruit juice. It's not a step up from flavored malt beverage, but ... nah.

This thread has turned into every other ilx thread about what ilxors think is a 'good' drink or a 'bad' drink. Pity.

some drinks in moderation are good, and we are all bad

Aimless... he drinks a bitter tonic

I am an aficionado of thread topics even more than an aficionado of alcoholic drinks. As a drinker, I am unreasonably forbearing. As an ilxor, I am uncompromising.