POLL: Greatest Ellie Greenwich-penned song

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I know "The Train from Kansas City" from Superchunk as they covered it and it's on their first singles collection.

That is a very impressive list of tunes.

earlnash, Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

River Deep Mountain High is even more obvious than Be My Baby

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

They're about even for me, but I agree with the idea that "Be My Baby" would not have been an automatic #1. It's got the burden of over-familiarity ("Leader of the Pack," too). I suspect it would have ended with the same handful of votes that a bunch of songs from that list will.

clemenza, Friday, 11 August 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link

I like their production on the early Neil Diamond records. If she is one of the geniuses who came up with the horn break on "Solitary Man," then wow.

River Deep Mountain High is even more obvious than Be My Baby

Maybe if you're British? But that was not a hit in the U.S. and has had no life as an "oldie" here either.

timellison, Friday, 11 August 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link

Boy, the Everly Brothers could have done a job on "Maybe I Know."

timellison, Friday, 11 August 2017 04:32 (six years ago) link

tim, from a Neil Diamond interview after her death:

She was too young. She will always be that 20 year old in the studio just overflowing with energy and enthusiasm, laughing, having fun, coming up on the spot with these fantastic background parts or these horn parts on 'Kentucky Woman' or 'Solitary Man.'

abcfsk, Friday, 11 August 2017 04:35 (six years ago) link

V jealous of seeing that gig, Adam

abcfsk, Friday, 11 August 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

<3

timellison, Friday, 11 August 2017 05:01 (six years ago) link

Also jealous of Adam, and tempted to delete my Adam bookmark from Spotify, but guess I have to be happy that I got see Lala Brooks a year or two back, with a few members of Ronnie's band.

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2017 05:08 (six years ago) link

How many of you can answer this trivia question without peeking: What super-funky jazz drummer was LaLa Brooks once married to?

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2017 05:13 (six years ago) link

I know I can't vote for this so I am putting it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KH6e_6O_dE

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2017 05:25 (six years ago) link

That was the TNT show, this is Shindig:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrVbawRPO7I

Would post Ronnie on the Sha Na Na show, except you'd have to sit through Sha Na Na

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2017 05:29 (six years ago) link

Didn't Brian Wilson write "Don't Worry Baby" as an answer song to that?

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2017 05:33 (six years ago) link

Those concert films are a blessing, amazing footage of Ronettes, also those killer Lesley Gore performances from the T.A.M.I show.

abcfsk, Friday, 11 August 2017 05:54 (six years ago) link

Recommending you all read the book mentioned at this post if you haven't already.

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

Only one part of a book, so obviously not nearly so detailed, but I'd also recommend the Carole King section in Sheila Weller's Girls Like Us. There's lots in Greenwich and the Brill Building in there--I think it was the Weller book that got me to buy the Greenwich compilation where I was introduced to the Raindrops' "The Kind of Boy You Can't Forget."

clemenza, Friday, 11 August 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

So wondering now if the Charlie Gillett book The Sound of Music got its title from the lyrics of "I Can Hear Music."

Lucas With The Lydian F (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 August 2017 03:42 (six years ago) link

i love the larry lurex version of "i can hear music".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5tr6O1XvjM

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 August 2017 03:50 (six years ago) link

this poll needs an "all of them" option. but since there isn't: "train from kansas city." every single thing about this song is perfect, including but not at all limited to the melody of "baby, baby" (i mean, christ, this song has completely destroyed me by the time it gets to the second syllable of the first word); the line "i'll be back in the time it takes to break a heart"; and the reverb on the snare drum in the last verse, which i realize is not technically considered a "penned by" part of this song, but every detail in this song works with every other detail in this song, and all of them are necessary. there are obviously other songs on this list for which this is similarly true.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 13 August 2017 04:59 (six years ago) link

also my vote and yeah, the bit when the drums come back in is one of the greatest pop moments ever

honourable mention to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFrecN_dsPc

Number None, Sunday, 13 August 2017 09:24 (six years ago) link

Neko Case version of "Train From Kansas City" is good too.

Lucas With The Lydian F (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 August 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

I had to go for 'River Deep Mountain High', which is a perfect package of song, production and artist!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:46 (six years ago) link

Couple of neat songs not on this list:

Too much fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaIOa6A1Row

This minor Shirelles cut is icky sweet one moment and sensual the next
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNEtp07uT1E

abcfsk, Thursday, 14 September 2017 06:57 (six years ago) link

Want to rep the Connie Francis song that is on this list and probably won't be anyone's #1 as a great, cool modern piece of pop. Should've been a hit. https://youtu.be/yvq6_GXp1js

abcfsk, Thursday, 14 September 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 15 September 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Suitably wide spread!

abcfsk, Saturday, 16 September 2017 06:46 (six years ago) link

Kinda pleased Leader of the Pack didn't get a vote

albvivertine, Saturday, 16 September 2017 07:56 (six years ago) link

Should do a "Grand Final" with tv he top five against "Be My Baby"

Mark G, Sunday, 17 September 2017 08:23 (six years ago) link

Remarkable that "Train from Kansas City" was only a b-side

Josefa, Sunday, 17 September 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

yup

Star Star City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 September 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

Also, only one vote for the Ronettes!

("I can hear music" is Beach Boys, c'mon)

Mark G, Sunday, 17 September 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

Doesn't really seem like there were enough votes to go around.

Star Star City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 September 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

I actually questioned whether my impulse not to vote for "Leader of the Pack" was just song fatigue. It's an absolutely amazing song.

timellison, Sunday, 17 September 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

Introducing Be My Baby again could be interesting.

All of her work with the Ronettes is amazing, but you'd just listen to their greatest hits and then find other artists standout songs to vote for.

abcfsk, Sunday, 17 September 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

It's probably been spoiled for me by a stupid ad from when I was a kid ("That's when I fell for/the Cadbury Pinky Bar")

albvivertine, Monday, 18 September 2017 01:26 (six years ago) link


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