to what extent does your life revolve around alcohol?

Mostly, maybe, the way it feels like nobody can judge you for starting at 9:30 AM because it's 2230 where you're from and all you have to do for the next 10.7 hours is comply with the seatbelt sign

it really is nice, I got United Club passes once and it was like a revelation. even if it was just free light beer, still was great

being hungover on a plane is awful though

Tomboto OTM. I was just typing exactly that: Airports are great for drinking partly because it's a no-judgment zone. Everyone is going somewhere, you're never going to see any of them again, and no one knows what time zone you came from or which you're going to. Also no one knows whether you're terrified of flying, or whether your flight boards in three minutes, or whatever. The tyranny of airline travel is universally acknowledged, so no one will ever judge your response to it.

So if you're observed chugging down three bourbon & ginger ales at 10:30 AM on a Wednesday while wearing a business suit? No problemo. Whatever you need, dude.

The only downside is the prices are excessive. But if you're a business traveler and you play your cards right, you can expense it.

i stopped smoking in january after 30+ years so i can't really drink. or at least i don't want to because i know it will just make me want to smoke. i think i had two glasses of wine in the month of july. i kinda like it. makes me feel like an adult. i reckon if i keep with the not smoking for another couple of years i would lose that association. but i drank to get drunk for almost my entire adult life and smoked all through that so its a pretty strong association. i can't smoke pot either because again it just makes me want to smoke cigs and pot stresses me out. my goal is to be one of those people who just occasionally goes out to dinner and orders one fancy cocktail for fun. healthy!

i have been eating small amounts of mushrooms this summer for stress. they work! but i can't do it every day. i don't trip or anything. i can work and talk to people and all that. but they do provide a little mood lift/stress relief. still considering whether i want to go the pharma route for stress/anxiety. mushrooms seem pretty healthy. but they don't sell them at walgreens. i've also been using the nicotine lozenges as needed since january. they don't provide the medicinal benefits of a cigarette though and i still sometimes feel like i'm gonna lose it.

(i also cut back on drinking a lot since my wife stopped completely about 6 years ago. that definitely made it easier to go without this year. i do like being at the point where i don't care if people smoke and drink around me. it's a very liberating feeling.)

but carry on drinking, all you people!

being hungover on a plane is awful though

but being drunk on a plane is a+++++

being hungover on a plane is awful though

Shakes On A Plane.

Never been a daily drinker, was never much for having a single beer or glass of wine or two. I've always binged, usually isolated to weekends. Since becoming self-employed though that has definitely extended into weekdays. When I'm busy with work I don't drink at all. I don't even think about it or crave or miss it. But once I crack that first one I generally don't stop until I'm a stumbling mess, especially if I mix in some weed. Luckily for everyone involved I don't get angry or violent or horribly embarrassing, (or so I've been assured). It's much better now that I live where I can walk or easily get a ride share.

I've also never really kept booze around the house. It's always been something I go out to do, whether with people or occasionally alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrM39m22jH4

XP I'm not so sure that's true. I prefer to be mostly sober through security, tipsy at boarding so I can then get mildly drunk on the plane and sleep. I've been hammered on a plane a few times and it's terrible.

Just went to SF on Virgin America and their back-of-seat screen-thingy-doodle has a way you can order drinks whenever you want (as opposed to just when the cart comes by).

You can even send a drink to another person, via seat number. Were I not Very Married I would be trying to figure out how to use that for romantic advantage.

I've done it on ILX.

Ha, someone bought me a drink on Southwest earlier this week, just to be nice! They had coupons to use up.

tastes bad and i don't like the high

Don't get me wrong. Airport drinking is barely defensible. It is definitely the worst place to drink, except for on the plane itself. Worse than a hotel bar. But I have grown to love it.

― El Tomboto, Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:45 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a good hotel bar, that even locals will occasionally go to but consider pricey, is a joy

bad hotel bars are one of the worst things in existence

I think you're right, i may have to reconsider. Hotel bars are worse than airports, on average.

Drinking & dining at the bar in certain kinds of asian (thai / ramen / vietnamese) restaurants often has a hotel bar feeling for me

before bh died i had no involvement with the local pub thing and rarely drank.
bh died, and now i know everyone at the local, and i drink a lot more.
and i have no problems with it.
i am now basically Norm from Cheers, i walk into my local and i know i will have a few hours of chat and banter that will make me smile.
is this a problem ?
quite possibly.
but give me this over the alternative of being at home and lonely.

A nightcap at even the most corporate hotel bar is yet another of life's quiet joys.

i had absolutely no interest in bars once you couldn't smoke inside them.

if you could still smoke inside on the east coast i would smoke and drink much more. thanks bloomberg

When I learned about Laphroiag 10 it greatly improved my overall hotel bar experience tbf

the great bourbon renaissance/marketing push got booker's into a lot of hotel bars and that is cool with me

my dad (rip) was a bells whiskey man day to day, but laphroiag was his special day groove.

mmm booker's

mmm laphroiag

mmm phenols

Wrong

laphroaig tastes like tcp

and not in a good way

the great bourbon renaissance/marketing push got booker's into a lot of hotel bars and that is cool with me

Fuckers recently doubled the price of a bottle.

yeah, that part not good. I should have marked that tip "expense account only"

OK, I was wondering if the drink price was still completely nonsensical at this hotel restaurant, and it is:
http://prod-admin1.denihan.atex.cniweb.net:8080/fileserver/file/12306/filename/Primehouse%20Wine%20List%204.20.2017.pdf

Angels Envy 25
Basil Hayden 14
Bookers 12
Bulleit 12
Colonel E.H. Taylor 14
Knob Creek 12
Maker’s Mark 14
Noah’s Mill 16
Willett, ‘Pot Still Reserve’ 24
Woodford Reserve 16

So uh, Bulleit and Bookers are the same price despite one being twice as much per bottle, and Maker's costs more than either?

all the prices are gouging, but the pricing makes absolutely no sense when you gauge the different drinks against each other

oh yeah and jack daniels is $13

lol

i've done it enough times but i think i am done ordering a whiskey neat in a bar, it hurts to pay that much for something that i can have so easily at home. if i'm going to pay $15 for a drink i want some labor going into that drink

Menu prices have very little to do with what each thing costs in a retail setting.

and even less with what things cost at wholesale, but my life has revolved around alcohol enough to know this list is batshit crazy

laphroaig tastes like tcp

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and not in a good way

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yeah it's the phenols. it literally has the same compounds in it as tcp and that explains the aromatic similarity

Only times I order whiskey at a bar are when there's something really special or hard to find on the menu at a (relatively) reasonable price. That list is wacky. $25 for Angels Envy? All that shit on there is pretty standard at almost any store save the Taylor, so if anything that one should be more expensive.

Anyway, this is how you price whiskey:

http://www.longmanandeagle.com/whiskey/

ha I bounce between there and Reno whenever I visit my sister

Hitchens was right about this: once you dabble in Macallan, it's hard to try anything else.

Basil Hayden 14
Bookers 12
Bulleit 12
Colonel E.H. Taylor 14
Knob Creek 12
Maker’s Mark 14
Noah’s Mill 16
Willett, ‘Pot Still Reserve’ 24
Woodford Reserve 16

So uh, Bulleit and Bookers are the same price despite one being twice as much per bottle, and Maker's costs more than either?

― mh, Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:11 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is dollars?! Criminal.

I really try not to drink often these days and I feel so much better having adopted that, but I still enjoy my Belgian dubbels, trippels, and quads like there ain't no tomorrow.

so the average response in this thread: I can't drink too often because I'll go too far; or, I drank too often, therefore I drink little to nothing now. This depresses me. I make no judgment on anyone.

http://i.imgur.com/7afqZIe.jpg

xp Have a Belgian beer place like a block from my house and I feel that. Generally keep it as a kind of treat though, cuz damn does a tab there get expensive.

I pretty much drink until drunk nearly every Friday and Saturday night, though have a good handle on limits and am in control. Also one night during the week, generally Wednesday. Still a huge part of my social life (single, early 30s), but I'm getting to the point where the hangovers are outweighing the pleasures. Something might need to change soon. I'm in good physical shape though. Feel like a big part of me working out has been to keep this lifestyle feasible and not be a total wreck, but mentally it's getting rough. Been such a routine for so long, not sure where to go from here.

w/ me Alfred it's more that after I increased my anti-anxiety med dosage to 150 mg I began realizing that at the old dosage, alcohol and the meds didn't really have issues co-existing, but now the two definitely don't play nice if I have more than say, three drinks. sometimes the rebound anxiety is excruciating.

lol at the tab comment circa, yeah the problem with enjoying such treats = they ain't cheap

I suspect my daily / weekly intake probably moves the median in a less depressing direction, Alfred, although my doctor wouldn't agree.

Laphroaig made me wonder why iodine doesn't have more culinary uses.

Sheesh @ the laphroiag haters

I think I have a well-rounded palate for booze as long as it's not too sweet. There's a pizza restaurant near us that seems like it might just be a way for the owner(s) to write off a ridiculous amaro collection on their taxes, and I've enjoyed some of the truly odd ones. I will go for many, many types of whisky. I am also fond of anisettes. This is a long way of saying that the list of what I like is longer than the list of what I find worthless and/or disgusting. What I can't deal with:

- "session" IPAs; just make a goddamn pale ale, or call it a Light IPA, you jackasses
- white rum, silver tequila, moonshine, or any of that clear bullshit that's obviously better after some barrel school
- the vast, vast majority of wine, I used to like this stuff but really, grapes? I can't anymore.
- fancy vodka, why
- soda beverages in my drink - tonic, cola, or sprite, who cares, stop
- limoncello, jesus