Chatting with the bartender or dinner at the bar in general is great.
ppl sit outside and chat with whomever walks by
Oh, man, we generally have a standing (sitting) neighbor night in which 20 people or so, give or take, hold court at the end of the block every Friday once summer silly season of camps and stuff is over, grown ups drinking and kids running around like loons. At first I thought the adults were relatively modest drinkers, and then I realized that they'd (the dudes at least) likely already been drinking a while before I got there and by the time my household showed up they were sort of in a lull. And then, much later, once most people had gone back home, the hardcore start diving right back in again. Everyone is twice my size, like proper midwest ogres, so I guess it just takes a bit longer before they get all wobbly.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 August 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
Communal home drinking is the best! Our only complications are 1)open containers are illegal in public so technically we could all get tickets every time (occasionally someone does--putting your drink in an innocuous cup or glass is key), and 2) that a couple of non-social, non-smoking neighbors object to the smoke. I am not unfeeling--we moved our usual place to further from their windows--but it's inevitable that everyone's outdoor space is minimal and shared and them's the breaks. Close your windows. Also if you want to complain about us, please refrain from screaming at your child in the hallways every day because community is a two-way street.
It would be nice to have a porch or a yard, undoubtedly.
― Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
I will read in bars, and will even work a crossword puzzle. But in orbit & JinC are also right that hanging on the stoop/porch/whatever and chatting with neighbors and passersby is also Most Chill.
Further, when I smoke pot I sometimes don't drink at all, to feel it on its own. That said, sometimes I'll have a beer as a centering/calming mechanism if I get anxious or feel unmoored while high. My body knows exactly what to do with beer, so that anchoring familiarity helps.
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link
my favorite places to drink:
a front porcha back porcha kitchena bar
― marcos, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
That said, sometimes I'll have a beer as a centering/calming mechanism if I get anxious or feel unmoored while high. My body knows exactly what to do with beer, so that anchoring familiarity helps.
yea agreed
― marcos, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link
i live in a community that is very much tied together by front porches, it is part of what makes this neighborhood so much nicer than other areas where i've lived
― marcos, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
I love to drink in airports
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
Don't get me wrong. Airport drinking is barely defensible. It is definitely the worst place to drink, except for on the plane itself. Worse than a hotel bar. But I have grown to love it.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
oh me too
― marcos, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
Everyone is twice my size, like proper midwest ogres
<3 my Dutch and Swedish people
― Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Me three! Getting to the airport early before a trip starts for a martini is one of life's civilizing pleasures.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Mostly, maybe, the way it feels like nobody can judge you for starting at 9:30 AM because it's 2230 where you're from and all you have to do for the next 10.7 hours is comply with the seatbelt sign
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link
it really is nice, I got United Club passes once and it was like a revelation. even if it was just free light beer, still was great
being hungover on a plane is awful though
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
Tomboto OTM. I was just typing exactly that: Airports are great for drinking partly because it's a no-judgment zone. Everyone is going somewhere, you're never going to see any of them again, and no one knows what time zone you came from or which you're going to. Also no one knows whether you're terrified of flying, or whether your flight boards in three minutes, or whatever. The tyranny of airline travel is universally acknowledged, so no one will ever judge your response to it.
So if you're observed chugging down three bourbon & ginger ales at 10:30 AM on a Wednesday while wearing a business suit? No problemo. Whatever you need, dude.
The only downside is the prices are excessive. But if you're a business traveler and you play your cards right, you can expense it.
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link
i stopped smoking in january after 30+ years so i can't really drink. or at least i don't want to because i know it will just make me want to smoke. i think i had two glasses of wine in the month of july. i kinda like it. makes me feel like an adult. i reckon if i keep with the not smoking for another couple of years i would lose that association. but i drank to get drunk for almost my entire adult life and smoked all through that so its a pretty strong association. i can't smoke pot either because again it just makes me want to smoke cigs and pot stresses me out. my goal is to be one of those people who just occasionally goes out to dinner and orders one fancy cocktail for fun. healthy!
i have been eating small amounts of mushrooms this summer for stress. they work! but i can't do it every day. i don't trip or anything. i can work and talk to people and all that. but they do provide a little mood lift/stress relief. still considering whether i want to go the pharma route for stress/anxiety. mushrooms seem pretty healthy. but they don't sell them at walgreens. i've also been using the nicotine lozenges as needed since january. they don't provide the medicinal benefits of a cigarette though and i still sometimes feel like i'm gonna lose it.
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
(i also cut back on drinking a lot since my wife stopped completely about 6 years ago. that definitely made it easier to go without this year. i do like being at the point where i don't care if people smoke and drink around me. it's a very liberating feeling.)
but carry on drinking, all you people!
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
but being drunk on a plane is a+++++
― Mordy, Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
Shakes On A Plane.
― Tonight I Cut My Temple Teeth (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
Never been a daily drinker, was never much for having a single beer or glass of wine or two. I've always binged, usually isolated to weekends. Since becoming self-employed though that has definitely extended into weekdays. When I'm busy with work I don't drink at all. I don't even think about it or crave or miss it. But once I crack that first one I generally don't stop until I'm a stumbling mess, especially if I mix in some weed. Luckily for everyone involved I don't get angry or violent or horribly embarrassing, (or so I've been assured). It's much better now that I live where I can walk or easily get a ride share. I've also never really kept booze around the house. It's always been something I go out to do, whether with people or occasionally alone.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrM39m22jH4
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
XP I'm not so sure that's true. I prefer to be mostly sober through security, tipsy at boarding so I can then get mildly drunk on the plane and sleep. I've been hammered on a plane a few times and it's terrible.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
Just went to SF on Virgin America and their back-of-seat screen-thingy-doodle has a way you can order drinks whenever you want (as opposed to just when the cart comes by).
You can even send a drink to another person, via seat number. Were I not Very Married I would be trying to figure out how to use that for romantic advantage.
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
I've done it on ILX.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link
Ha, someone bought me a drink on Southwest earlier this week, just to be nice! They had coupons to use up.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
tastes bad and i don't like the high
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
― El Tomboto, Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:45 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a good hotel bar, that even locals will occasionally go to but consider pricey, is a joy
bad hotel bars are one of the worst things in existence
― mh, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
I think you're right, i may have to reconsider. Hotel bars are worse than airports, on average.
Drinking & dining at the bar in certain kinds of asian (thai / ramen / vietnamese) restaurants often has a hotel bar feeling for me
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
before bh died i had no involvement with the local pub thing and rarely drank.bh died, and now i know everyone at the local, and i drink a lot more.and i have no problems with it.i am now basically Norm from Cheers, i walk into my local and i know i will have a few hours of chat and banter that will make me smile.is this a problem ? quite possibly.but give me this over the alternative of being at home and lonely.
― mark e, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
A nightcap at even the most corporate hotel bar is yet another of life's quiet joys.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
i had absolutely no interest in bars once you couldn't smoke inside them.
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
if you could still smoke inside on the east coast i would smoke and drink much more. thanks bloomberg
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
When I learned about Laphroiag 10 it greatly improved my overall hotel bar experience tbf
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
the great bourbon renaissance/marketing push got booker's into a lot of hotel bars and that is cool with me
― mh, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
my dad (rip) was a bells whiskey man day to day, but laphroiag was his special day groove.
― mark e, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
mmm booker's
― marcos, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
mmm laphroiag
mmm phenols
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
Wrong
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 August 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
laphroaig tastes like tcp
― for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link
and not in a good way
Fuckers recently doubled the price of a bottle.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
yeah, that part not good. I should have marked that tip "expense account only"
― mh, Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link
OK, I was wondering if the drink price was still completely nonsensical at this hotel restaurant, and it is:http://prod-admin1.denihan.atex.cniweb.net:8080/fileserver/file/12306/filename/Primehouse%20Wine%20List%204.20.2017.pdf
Angels Envy 25Basil Hayden 14Bookers 12Bulleit 12Colonel E.H. Taylor 14Knob Creek 12Maker’s Mark 14Noah’s Mill 16Willett, ‘Pot Still Reserve’ 24Woodford Reserve 16
So uh, Bulleit and Bookers are the same price despite one being twice as much per bottle, and Maker's costs more than either?
― mh, Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link
all the prices are gouging, but the pricing makes absolutely no sense when you gauge the different drinks against each other
― mh, Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
oh yeah and jack daniels is $13
lol
― mh, Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link
i've done it enough times but i think i am done ordering a whiskey neat in a bar, it hurts to pay that much for something that i can have so easily at home. if i'm going to pay $15 for a drink i want some labor going into that drink
― marcos, Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link
Menu prices have very little to do with what each thing costs in a retail setting.
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link
and even less with what things cost at wholesale, but my life has revolved around alcohol enough to know this list is batshit crazy
― mh, Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
― for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:02 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah it's the phenols. it literally has the same compounds in it as tcp and that explains the aromatic similarity
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link
Only times I order whiskey at a bar are when there's something really special or hard to find on the menu at a (relatively) reasonable price. That list is wacky. $25 for Angels Envy? All that shit on there is pretty standard at almost any store save the Taylor, so if anything that one should be more expensive.
Anyway, this is how you price whiskey:
http://www.longmanandeagle.com/whiskey/
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 August 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link