Phish C/D

fishmans singing there right? that @ least used to mean its kinda a joke

Not sure what stirred this one from the depths of my mind this morning.

BUFFALO BILL
Originally performed by Phish

(Anastasio, Marshall)
© Who Is She? Music (BMI)

"Looking for owls?"
The young man asked
Hoping to lighten the tension
And the scowl he received
as his only reply
Made him smile
as he relived the mention

And the coward fool
walked on alone
Quite proud of the fear he instilled
And later they found him
tied to a log
Bent over and buffalo billed

I think the worst thing about Phish might be the music.

Rye rye rocco
Marco Esquandolas
Been you to have any spike, man?

I think the best thing about Faberge eggs might be the precious jewels

The Phish bassist has more strings than the band has good songs.

comin down on phish like the wolfman's brother over here

I guess in light of my surprising latecoming to the Dead, I've put on You Enjoy Myself a few times lately and tried to listen with "fresh ears," i.e. as though I had no idea phishheads were a thing. It was pleasant and neat I guess but a bit unsatisfying -- the proggy parts aren't proggy enough, the harmonic movement is sort of mickey mouse, there are parts that *almost* evoke Phillip Glass but don't really lean hard enough into that to seem deliberate. Moments that reminded me of Close to the Edge but only in an approximated sort of way. Ultimately nothing that really made me want to revisit it let alone check out more music.

Did a couple of looong solo drives this week in a car w Sirius xm and both times found myself stumbling across the phish channel in a moment of desperation.

There are some solid moments and I’ve always thought their live mixes and each instrument sound really good. The keyboard dude has an awesome rig full of instruments I’d love to be able to afford and I think he uses them well. The drummer is a million times better than the dead’s guys after 1975. Trey seems like a genuinely nice dude who has handled himself quite well.

But in the end it’s just too wanky. And I’m a massive GD apologist.

This band’s saving grace for me is providing fodder for the very entertaining Analyze Phish podcast (R.I.P. Harris Wittels) — a must for fans and haters alike.

I second that^^^

I was gonna say “you can’t be serious” but I actually don’t like or hate phish so nevermind

is it like that Celine Dion 33 1/3

Just start at Ep. 1, you’ll get the idea pretty quickly. I’ve listened to the whole thing twice through (skipping Ep. 5 & 6, which are a detour involving Jaws).

Out of all the thousands of bands I've seen over the decades Phish is still the least enjoyable performance I've ever endured. That was a support slot too, if I'd had to sit through 3 hours of it or however long they play things might have got nasty.

Phish is probably the most ILM-reviled band I kind of love. I went off to college in '94, which was the year they really broke. I mean, I also got into Dream Theater that year, but Dream Theater are the only band I ever stopped liking. Phish, they're still sort of the apotheosis of the hippie jam band thing to me - in '94, I hated the Dead; they were a long, strange train wreck in progress. In the years past I've come around to old Dead and realized the weird mystic power they had that Phish didn't... plus they had some good songs, which Phish never did.

But Phish are all very good musicians who can play well together. I like that. When that first live album of theirs came out I picked up a copy, and I do still enjoy "You Enjoy Myself". I like the intro a lot - I think it's better than the intro to "Firth of Fifth". I could do without the silly mouth noises, but yeah, last October when I realized I'd run out of good Grateful Dead live stuff to listen to I got back to checking out some of the most acclaimed Phish recordings, and there are some very good ones.

http://renameforall.com/get-involved/suggest-a-name/

There is a petition to suggest names for Denver, CO's Stapleton neighborhood, which was originally named after a former Denver mayor and KKK member. Right now the Phishheads are in the lead with Gamehendge. If you know, you know; if you don't, it's really stupid but here. I'm sure this petition is non-binding. I just want you to please click the link and help put the stupid hippies back in their place.

Oh good, someone is going through the suggestions and policing for morons.

Glad to see Westrbook back up in the lead by a comfortable margin.

I get it that they are a live thing, but I love it when fans defend them but go on to say that they don’t really have any good songs or make good albums

The name could only be
The one, the only
The great and the knowlegeable

lol

i owned farmhouse when i was a kid and also loved billy breathes but have never seen phish live and prob know better at this point that to try to get into them again

regardless i do want to talk about how the story of the ghost is a really rad record

I loved SOTG back when I was a Phishhead. It was a huge record for me. I listened to it again recently to grade my original vinyl before selling it. It was pretty good! Guyute really didn't fit in, stylistically, and I have a personal aversion to all the circus imagery in Roggae, but everything else was solid. Particularly like the title track, Brian and Robert, Shafty.

i will say one of the very best things about the story of the ghost is that it tricks you into thinking the members of phish are good singers. crediting andy wallace with this

and i think "guyute" works on a record that also has, like, "limb by limb" and "water in the sky"

also it's possible "guyute" is so good that it asserts its place on that record for me regardless of sonic identity

i think... that for me, to be able to sit with certain aspects of phish's songwriting, to sit with the horror and disgust those aspects evoke in me, without dismissing them as being necessarily fundamentally grotesque and repulsive, while at the same time acknowledging the positive things about their songwriting, the ways in which their music continues to appeal to me... i think that this is an instructive and useful act for me.

Yeah, Guyute's a good song and all, but it's very much a throwback to 80s Phish - their longer, primarily instrumental songs like Divided Sky or David Bowie or You Enjoy Myself. And they actually debuted it in 1994, three years before the batch of songs that became SOTG. So just because I was listening to Phish extremely actively at the time, it kinda felt shoehorned in there and I guess my prejudices may remain.

I also remember preferring the more trad country version of Water in the Sky that they had debuted in 97 (available on the Walnut Creek show they released). Similarly, I still think I like that one better but am not quite sure.

that's really fair! i am of course completely disengaged from that kind of phish fandom, but i always got the sense fans didn't really like farmhouse because it's full of oddly-realized studio versions of what were by that time several-years-old live jams

i ended up downloading a show because i wanted to see what a 20 minute version of "ghost" was like (11/17/97) and wow this is really great :(((((

"hey this is pretty cool, who is this?" –me, to a bartender who was playing Phish off his iPod over the speakers

i ended up downloading a show because i wanted to see what a 20 minute version of "ghost" was like (11/17/97) and wow this is really great :(((((

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)

yeah that's a fucking amazing show, they were killing it in fall of '97

This band’s saving grace for me is providing fodder for the very entertaining Analyze Phish podcast (R.I.P. Harris Wittels) — a must for fans and haters alike.

― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:54 PM (eleven months ago) bookmarkflaglink

I second that^^^

― tobo73, Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:09 PM (eleven months ago) bookmarkflaglink

i started this today! it's great. i hate scott aukerman but he's kind of the antagonist of this show anyway

went to their show at the garden on dec 30th and fell asleep during a 35-minute version of tweezer

my wife once fell asleep watching king crimson play "starless"

"starless" is a great song, but she was tired

and it was a seated show, which didn't help

xxp Cool! I’ve listened to the whole thing, several times thru (well, skipping the digression episodes in the middle that are about “Jaws” or something).

it occurs to me that i am one of, possibly, the few people on this board who would rather listen to phish play literally _anything_ than listen to a podcast

went to their show at the garden on dec 30th and fell asleep during a 35-minute version of tweezer

This is widely consider by lots of Phish fans to be one of the best jams of the bands current, 3.0, era.

step into the freezer
fall asleep to tweezer

tbf to me, it was widely considered to be one of the drunkest nights of my current approaching 30 era

xp

idk if it's just me but i feel like the song portion of this is much less obnoxious than that time in '95 they played the song for 45 damn minutes straight

i mean it's still a terrible song but it sounds less terrible somehow?

mind you if the "jam" portion has anything whatsoever to do with the "song" portion the relation is too musically advanced for me to be able to parse

I saw the 58-minute Runaway Jim at Worcester 97. It was flat-out amazing to dance and be high to, but much less captivating when I finally got a tape of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n-lLrqcfJY

The recent super long (38 minutes) Phish jam that I've really felt earned it's length was the "Ruby Waves" from Alpine Valley last summer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI6xUJ4fmDk

i am listening to fukuoka 6/14/00 and this is prob the phish show i’d try to convert someone with (ha fat chance). i am very stoned right now and listening to it is like floating through interstellar clouds

Ah, that takes me back. Had a roommmate that played that one a lot. One of the official live releases, right? Never been a huge fan of the band but a few songs on there (Twist, and uh, I forget) are undeniable.

Phish is the ultimate “What is this record you’re playing? It’s awesome. Oh.” band.

...except for their songs that sound like someone soloing over a cross between the Sex & The City theme song and the Will & Grace theme song. This was the barrier I was ultimately unable to cross

Oh, you mean The Landlady.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ckN45Z-ykQ

xpost - yeah, it is one of that first batch of Live Phish archival releases they did in the early 2000s. Sadly, I was one of those people that kept them in those stupid foldable binder pages they came in, so my entire run of those releases had the discs ruined by the adhesive.

i also really love the fukuoka jam on "gumbo," very subtle, small movements that suggest vast inner galaxies of psychedelia, very floyd imo

i have spent so much time listening to the denver "ghost" > "fire" this week lol