Bob Clearmountain wouldn't have touched later Cure material either
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
He did a mix of 'How Beautiful You Are', which I'm not really keen on... and I respect Clearmountain's mixing skills and obvious talent a great deal.
The Top mixed by Bob Clearmountain would be interesting - it'd probably end up quite a different record, even with the same source material.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
BC also did the mixdowns for all of the single edits from Kiss Me.
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link
"All I Want" absolutely got robbed. thou i could not vote for it as my favorite on this album, it's still top tier Cure. so glad something like this exist as an album track even though the Cure have some of the best B-Sides of all-time. this is an example of a double album done right. at a band letting their hair down and stretching it out and seeing what happens.
"Tonight i'm getting so old"
― Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2017 04:39 (six years ago) link
so i actually saw this tour.
July 14, 1987 at The Forum, Inglewood, California:
-) Eyemou (Intro film)1. The Kiss2. Torture3. All I Want4. A Japanese Dream5. Catch6. Just Like Heaven7. Hot Hot Hot!!!8. If Only Tonight We Could Sleep9. Like Cockatoos10. The Walk11. In Between Days12. How Beautiful You Are...13. The Perfect Girl14. The Snakepit15. A Forest 16. Fight
Encore:
17. Close to Me18. Let's Go to Bed
Encore 2:
19. One More Time20. Shiver and Shake
Encore 3:
21. Three Imaginary Boys22. Primary23. Boys Don't Cry24. Why Can't I Be You?
― Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2017 05:20 (six years ago) link
i also saw them the next night and one of the changes was:
A Thousand HoursShiver and ShakeHey You!
― Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2017 05:26 (six years ago) link
Only current album cuts until the 10th song. That’s confidence
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 7 October 2017 07:03 (six years ago) link
Just Like Heaven is just so awesome, maybe my favorite song by anyone, if I had to pick
― rip van wanko, Saturday, 7 October 2017 07:50 (six years ago) link
I saw them about a few weeks after in Worcester, MA.
― Moodles, Saturday, 7 October 2017 09:12 (six years ago) link
rocked this album last night. still so classic. love the synth flute on those instrumental tracks.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
this is the only cure album i own, bought in a video game store/USED CD section when I was a teenager. Despite this, and hearing other album, feel like it's one of their best
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link
Out of everything they'd put out from 1979-1992, I'd probably rank it last.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link
i would probably rank Kiss me over Three Imaginary Boys but not over Boys Don't Cry. it's also better than Seventeen Seconds but would take "A Forest" over "Just Like Heaven" probably take "Faith" over it too.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link
This was easily my favourite Cure album when I was a teenager. It was the one album of theirs that seemed to have it all -- every mood (good or bad) that I was feeling, every drop of elation or sadness, anger and joy, bouncy pop songs, heavy ballads, everything.
But I think I prefer the relative cohesion of Pornography or Disintegration these days.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 8 October 2017 07:59 (six years ago) link
yeah there are other Cure albums id say are better but im fine w enjoying this on a rainy day it really hits the spot
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
My first exposure to The Cure was the singles collection, which I loved, so the eclecticism of Kiss Me fit right alongside that nicely. Unfortunately, this meant that I didn't really enjoy their more cohesive albums nearly as much. I find myself struggling to get through many of the albums that hardcore Cure fans consider to be their best.
― Moodles, Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link
This is the first Cure album that I couldn't just enjoy start to finish. There are a couple filler tracks imo, and "Catch" is just insipid.
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 8 October 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
loooove Catch.
reminds me of a girl i think i used to know
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 8 October 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
"Catch" is one of Robert's most enduring songs. one of the highlights from this impeccable album.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link
"Catch" is so great, perfect second song on this record. "The Perfect Girl" kinda sounds like "Sweet Home Alabama."
― flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link
Love "Catch," don't love a lot of this album.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 October 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link
I love Catch too, but I still can't believe it was a single. I think I ended up with two different versions of the 12". Great song but odd choice for a single.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link
I think it's an odd choice for a second single, especially when "Just Like Heaven" is an option. But I think it would've made sense as the 4th single after "Hot Hot Hot!!!".
― LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link
This is the first Cure album that I couldn't just enjoy start to finish. There are a couple filler tracks imo, and "Catch" is just insipid.― rip van wanko, Sunday, October 8, 2017 5:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rip van wanko, Sunday, October 8, 2017 5:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, I mostly agree... I can listen to everything from Three Imaginary Boys up until The Head on the Door without really wanting to skip anything, even the tracks I'm less keen on. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me probably would have worked better condensed down to a single LP.
'Catch' is... alright, I suppose. One of the lesser/less essential '80s tracks, and a momentum killer on the record, too... I find myself often skipping it to get to the excellent 'Torture'
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link
That 'Torture' got zero votes and 'Catch' got five is just stupid.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link
just listened to Catch and it really hit me. It's been a while.
― rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 02:11 (six years ago) link
I love "Catch" and "Torture". KMKMKM is my favorite Cure album. I love that it's long, I wish they'd found a way to include "A Japanese Dream" and "Breathe" too.
― LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link
Torture, Hey You and Fight are the only bum notes on this album. The length, the sprawl, the scope are key to the album. HOTD sounds like a set of tinny demos in comparison
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 October 2017 07:13 (six years ago) link
The Head on the Door is one of the absolute best records The Cure ever made, so I couldn't possibly agree.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link
To each their own. I’d rank it at the bottom of their pre-92 imperial phase
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 October 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link
Did you mean Chain of Flowers and Breathe? I thought A Japanese Dream was pre-87
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
HOTD is the best Cure album though.
Eh.
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 9 October 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
"A Japanese Dream" was the B-Side to "Why Can't I Be You". (x-post)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npIBmz_i8_A
― LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
Oh yeah, that is good. I was thinking of The Upstairs Room.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link
I can hear the cockatoo wings.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link
Nice capsule; hard disagree on Shiver and Shake but otherwise on board. I remember waiting and waiting for this to come out, it was too much to digest.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link
Just Like Heaven may be the best song ever written.
(NB: only a writer would write the line, “Daylight licked me into shape”)
The concept dates back to antiquity, people used to think bears were born as formless masses and the parents literally licked them into shape.
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link
Shoulda been a single. THIS mix!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWHXQU23V4o
― piscesx, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel)
Sure! I just meant the verb.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link
that's the verb you use for that idiom, to lick something into shape... I must be missing something
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link
No, I am. I didn't know this idiom existed, much less to be used in a pop song. Thanks!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link
ah man "torture" is amazing
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link
i actually like "Hot Hot Hot!!!" the song is just so funky and fun. they were just throwing things at the wall and made a double album out of it. didn't like it as a single and agree with piscesx that "How Beautiful You Are" should have been the single instead. "A Thousand Hours" need to be on the album as it fits in at the perfect time. "Torture" is stunning, so heavy. i would probably only rank "Shiver and Shake" and "Hey You" in the meh category. the later might just be a product of being left off of the original CD version and never really found it's way back. my two cents in 2020 and good piece Alfred.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link
today i would probably vote for "All I Want."
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link
We happen to be sitting in our living room, watching a TV production of their 40th Anniversary concert (Hyde Park, London), with closed captioning on. I’ve really never paid attention to his lyrics before, but a lot of them kinda read like “dummy” lyrics... I dunno.
― I eat fast foods (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link
Every song on this is so good, except for "A Thousand Hours" which I hate
― DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link
― Bee OK, Wednesday, April 22, 2020
Thank you. I prefer the Mixed Up version of HHH!!! but the vocal is an intestinal cramp.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
you’re an intestinal cramp
― DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link
*groan*
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link