The Cure's Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me Poll

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Eh, I don't know about that: The Kiss, Torture, If Only Tonight We Could Sleep, How Beautiful You Are..., The Snakepit, All I Want, Like Cockatoos, Icing Sugar, Shiver and Shake... all of them seem to fit pretty well into the vibe I get from The Top, and that's half the album.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

Invisible Touch was brought up to once again showcase your ineptitude; well done.

bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

Invisible Touch could have been a good name for a Cure song or album.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link

The Top is murkier and in places more intense - it's easy to picture 'The Caterpillar' on Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me but there's nothing as all-out as 'Give Me It' on there - 'Shiver and Shake' doesn't really come close for me. There's nothing as murky as 'Shake Dog Shake' or anything as despairing as 'The Top' ... the "downer" tracks on Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me feel curiously false at times.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

bodacious ignoramus is 49 years old. Yeah... I know, right!?

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link

There isn't really anything as all out as "Give Me It" on any of The Cure's other albums so I don't really get that criticism. All of songs I listed have a similar disorienting murkiness to them that you can find in "Shake Dog Shake" and "Wailing Wall", with the most obvious ones being "The Kiss", "Like Cockatoos", and "The Snakepit".

It's not like the albums are exactly the same but you can't say that KMKMKM and THOTD are exactly the same, either; I think the similarities to The Top are stronger.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

"all i want" is such a good song

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

quite certain you have have accumulated earwax of the same vintage

bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

I guess another way of looking at it could be that Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me is the logical endpoint of the Cure sound that began on Japanese Whispers, like Pornography was the logical endpoint for the first era of The Cure.

Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, Disintegration and Wish were all stadium size versions of stuff they'd done before.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

the top def feels different bcuz rs made it on mushrooms and the other albums he did not make while on mushrooms

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

There isn't really anything as all out as "Give Me It" on any of The Cure's other albums so I don't really get that criticism.

It's not a criticism of Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me at all, just part of an observation of the differences between the two records.

All of songs I listed have a similar disorienting murkiness to them that you can find in "Shake Dog Shake" and "Wailing Wall", with the most obvious ones being "The Kiss", "Like Cockatoos", and "The Snakepit".

Hmm, I disagree - quite a lot of the murky quality of The Top comes from how frazzled Robert Smith himself seems to be, the way the record was made and the relative lack of clarity in the overall production/mix... Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me feels more focused, more "together" and has more clarity in the production and Smith sounds like he's in a more healthier headspace, even on the downbeat tracks - the end result consequently feels a lot lighter to me.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link

"all i want" is such a good song

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, August 8, 2017 5:53 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I love that one - such a biting guitar sound.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

Funnily enough, I once knew someone who actually said to me "all of The Cure's albums sound the same" ... had to laugh at that one.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

The Top and Kiss Me have next to no sameness between them. I can't imagine anything from the Top being handled by Bob Clearmountain.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

Bob Clearmountain wouldn't have touched later Cure material either

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

He did a mix of 'How Beautiful You Are', which I'm not really keen on... and I respect Clearmountain's mixing skills and obvious talent a great deal.

The Top mixed by Bob Clearmountain would be interesting - it'd probably end up quite a different record, even with the same source material.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

BC also did the mixdowns for all of the single edits from Kiss Me.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

"All I Want" absolutely got robbed. thou i could not vote for it as my favorite on this album, it's still top tier Cure. so glad something like this exist as an album track even though the Cure have some of the best B-Sides of all-time. this is an example of a double album done right. at a band letting their hair down and stretching it out and seeing what happens.

"Tonight i'm getting so old"

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2017 04:39 (six years ago) link

so i actually saw this tour.

July 14, 1987 at The Forum, Inglewood, California:

-) Eyemou (Intro film)
1. The Kiss
2. Torture
3. All I Want
4. A Japanese Dream
5. Catch
6. Just Like Heaven
7. Hot Hot Hot!!!
8. If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
9. Like Cockatoos
10. The Walk
11. In Between Days
12. How Beautiful You Are...
13. The Perfect Girl
14. The Snakepit
15. A Forest
16. Fight

Encore:

17. Close to Me
18. Let's Go to Bed

Encore 2:

19. One More Time
20. Shiver and Shake

Encore 3:

21. Three Imaginary Boys
22. Primary
23. Boys Don't Cry
24. Why Can't I Be You?

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2017 05:20 (six years ago) link

i also saw them the next night and one of the changes was:

Encore 2:

A Thousand Hours
Shiver and Shake
Hey You!

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2017 05:26 (six years ago) link

Only current album cuts until the 10th song. That’s confidence

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 7 October 2017 07:03 (six years ago) link

Just Like Heaven is just so awesome, maybe my favorite song by anyone, if I had to pick

rip van wanko, Saturday, 7 October 2017 07:50 (six years ago) link

I saw them about a few weeks after in Worcester, MA.

Moodles, Saturday, 7 October 2017 09:12 (six years ago) link

rocked this album last night. still so classic. love the synth flute on those instrumental tracks.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

this is the only cure album i own, bought in a video game store/USED CD section when I was a teenager. Despite this, and hearing other album, feel like it's one of their best

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

Out of everything they'd put out from 1979-1992, I'd probably rank it last.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

i would probably rank Kiss me over Three Imaginary Boys but not over Boys Don't Cry. it's also better than Seventeen Seconds but would take "A Forest" over "Just Like Heaven" probably take "Faith" over it too.

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link

This was easily my favourite Cure album when I was a teenager. It was the one album of theirs that seemed to have it all -- every mood (good or bad) that I was feeling, every drop of elation or sadness, anger and joy, bouncy pop songs, heavy ballads, everything.

But I think I prefer the relative cohesion of Pornography or Disintegration these days.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 8 October 2017 07:59 (six years ago) link

yeah there are other Cure albums id say are better but im fine w enjoying this on a rainy day it really hits the spot

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

My first exposure to The Cure was the singles collection, which I loved, so the eclecticism of Kiss Me fit right alongside that nicely. Unfortunately, this meant that I didn't really enjoy their more cohesive albums nearly as much. I find myself struggling to get through many of the albums that hardcore Cure fans consider to be their best.

Moodles, Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

This is the first Cure album that I couldn't just enjoy start to finish. There are a couple filler tracks imo, and "Catch" is just insipid.

rip van wanko, Sunday, 8 October 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

loooove Catch.

reminds me of a girl i think i used to know

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 8 October 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

"Catch" is one of Robert's most enduring songs. one of the highlights from this impeccable album.

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link

"Catch" is so great, perfect second song on this record. "The Perfect Girl" kinda sounds like "Sweet Home Alabama."

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

Love "Catch," don't love a lot of this album.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 October 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link

I love Catch too, but I still can't believe it was a single. I think I ended up with two different versions of the 12". Great song but odd choice for a single.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link

I think it's an odd choice for a second single, especially when "Just Like Heaven" is an option. But I think it would've made sense as the 4th single after "Hot Hot Hot!!!".

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link

This is the first Cure album that I couldn't just enjoy start to finish. There are a couple filler tracks imo, and "Catch" is just insipid.

― rip van wanko, Sunday, October 8, 2017 5:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I mostly agree... I can listen to everything from Three Imaginary Boys up until The Head on the Door without really wanting to skip anything, even the tracks I'm less keen on. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me probably would have worked better condensed down to a single LP.

'Catch' is... alright, I suppose. One of the lesser/less essential '80s tracks, and a momentum killer on the record, too... I find myself often skipping it to get to the excellent 'Torture'

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

That 'Torture' got zero votes and 'Catch' got five is just stupid.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link

just listened to Catch and it really hit me. It's been a while.

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 02:11 (six years ago) link

I love "Catch" and "Torture". KMKMKM is my favorite Cure album. I love that it's long, I wish they'd found a way to include "A Japanese Dream" and "Breathe" too.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link

Torture, Hey You and Fight are the only bum notes on this album. The length, the sprawl, the scope are key to the album. HOTD sounds like a set of tinny demos in comparison

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 October 2017 07:13 (six years ago) link

The Head on the Door is one of the absolute best records The Cure ever made, so I couldn't possibly agree.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

To each their own. I’d rank it at the bottom of their pre-92 imperial phase

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 October 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link

Did you mean Chain of Flowers and Breathe? I thought A Japanese Dream was pre-87

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

HOTD is the best Cure album though.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

Eh.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 9 October 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

"A Japanese Dream" was the B-Side to "Why Can't I Be You". (x-post)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npIBmz_i8_A

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah, that is good. I was thinking of The Upstairs Room.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

I can hear the cockatoo wings.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link


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