HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

How would she have known what was in the wagons?

It's either gold or supplies, one of which everyone can use and one she had just complained about being taken from her?

could be corpses

detecting a subtle parallel to Brexit/Trump in Dany's rejection of the "expert" advice of Tyrion and co. and just deciding to just torch the shit out of everything with her dragon

wanna hear my cool theory about the cave paintings thing? jon snow totally painted them about 10 minutes before Daenerys walked in so that he could use them as part of his plea for her help. they looked brand new and if my tv had smellovision i bet it would smell like paint in there. jon snow is low-key the smartest guy on the show

But she didn't reject their expert advice. Their advice was to not torch the city. So she found a smart compromise and killed a ton of soldiers out in the country.

It seems to me that Jaime's men left the Roseroad and were heading in the direction of the Gold Road. Tarly remarks that he doesn't want to split the troops on either side of Blackwater Rush, which would be irrelevant on the King's Road in that it crosses the Blackwater at King's Landing. So it's more likely that they're heading up the Mander on the way to the Gold Road.

The Dothraki ships must have landed somewhere between King's Landing and Shipbreaker Bay, and it would be hard to imagine that they landed anywhere near the Red Keep, so let's say they landed near the Straits of Tarth. The Dothraki are on horseback and not especially slowed by the rough terrain, so they can cut through the southern Kingswood or over the Red Mountains, away from the major roads. But if they try to bring the gold and other wagons back to their ships over the mountains and forests they'd risk Fitzcarraldo-ing themselves.

i think in milo's strategic plan, they would have taken the wagons to Casterly Rock, as opposed to the ships.

Dragon-napalm soldiers and Lannister knights/cavalry
Dothraki slice and dice the wagon guards and drivers and mop up the rest of the above
Now that your enemies in the local area are dead or running away, sit down for a minute and figure out the next step. In the event that you can't take the wagons in their entirety with you, let everyone feast then load up what they can on the Dothraki horses and bail.

Find out the detailed logistics on next week's Game of Wheat

Presumably she had some plan for the desired goods when she was complaining about being deprived of them in the previous scene.

Counter-insurgency side quest: redistribute the stolen goods that you can't take with you to the local peasantry and build up goodwill for when you'll be ruling over them.

Bran totally knows Littlefinger was the one who owns that dagger, right? For whatever reason he's holding that to his chest but maybe with the "chaos is a ladder" comment that was enough to make Petyr shit his pants anyway (lol that was awesome).

For some reason I thought Tarly Sr was Uncle Kevan as well!? All these old white men are confusing me.

tbf, handing out sacks of grain to the farmers who were stripped of it is a much less exciting shot than dragons blowing up a wagon train

One theory goes that the dagger belonged to King Robert, was stolen by Joffrey, and the little blond bastard hired the assassin.

The lack of grain redistribution will be one of the main complaints of the maoist uprising against Daenerys in the second half of season 8.

I like the idea of the Dothraki horde going farm to farm in the Reach giving people their wheat back.

Oh Ok for some reason I thought LF had some hand in that Bransassination attempt, but yeah it was Joffrey wasnt it. Or maybe both of them.

Christ I only just read the books a couple months back you'd think I'd recall this.

One theory goes that the dagger belonged to King Robert, was stolen by Joffrey, and the little blond bastard hired the assassin.

Uh no. It was established already that it was Littlefinger, who did it so that Ned would go to Kings Landing and he would have more quality time with his wife, for starters.

this was like Season 2 shit, it was Tyrion's dagger that he lost gambling, and LF got it as the bookmaker/moneylender, and he had the assassin use it on purpose to implicate the Lannisters in the attack so there would be war

The gold is inside KL but the Iron Bank doesn't have a branch there so they still have to get it to Braavos, right? I too demand a pay-off for all that "once we actually get repaid" hamming

(Also I am dubious about this iron bank-based economy)

sarahell otm you guys arent even watching the same show lol

Tombot is right, Joffrey hiring the assassin is the most prominent theory in the books - Tyrion believes this is the case but has no direct confirmation. In the show, they haven't confirmed anyone as the culprit. Possible that it was Littlefinger, but definitely not established.

Controversial opinion: LF is working for the Walkers

and Bronn is working for the weekend.

xp - that's definitely a set up for something -- either an exciting robbery, or the Iron Bank being repaid and investing in Cersei's hiring of mercenaries, which is even more likely now that the majority of her army has just been decapitated and burnt to death.

What native military forces are left? All the midlands armies have been decimated in the previous fighting. The Tyrell forces either joined the Lannisters or were killed by them. The Northern armies are Jon's. There's Dorne ... which, might just sit this one out (lord I hope so), and ... the Knights of the Vale!

Tyrion believes this is the case but has no direct confirmation. In the show, they haven't confirmed anyone as the culprit.

Pretty sure there was a LF/Varys chat that confirmed this.

Also how the fuck would Joffrey at age 12 be able to hire an assassin? He had no money or assets.

he ran a lemonade stand

if by lemonade stand, you mean, he was a Dom and pissed on people for money, then maybe ... but LF controlled the sex trade in Kings Landing so ...

I'm pretty sure the crown prince could hire an assassin.

i'm looking through the wikis and not seeing anything that confirms that Littlefinger was the culprit.

regardless, he did not.

you mean wikis that include this:

During a casual conversation at King's Landing, Tyrion made a comment about Littlefinger's elegant suit and handsome knife. Littlefinger drew his knife, glanced at it casually, as if he had never seen it before and said “Valyrian steel, and a dragonbone hilt. A trifle plain, though. It’s yours, if you would like it." Noticing the mischief in his eyes, Tyrion realized that Littlefinger was teasing him insolently about the assassin's dagger, without saying anything explicit.

#JoffreyDidIt #JusticeforLittlefinger

That's from the books wiki, for one thing

And it's from a long section that goes on saying Tyrion anyways becomes convinced Joffrey did it. As does Jamie.

I thought we'd long given up differentiating books/show. Well ok, no ZombieLadyCat... THERES STILL TIME THOUGH.

his motive being .... ?

Joffrey needs a motive to be an asshole? That's some Season 2 shit, as a wise lady once said.

Why would Joffrey pay an assassin to kill someone when he doesn't even get to watch? Totally out of character.

Beats me but that's what people think happened in the book.

In the show, it's an open question (but it was probably Littlefinger).

why would joffrey have done it in the tv show? what possible reason would he have? it had nothing to do w/ him at that point

wasn't what's-his-name calling the shots in King's Landing at the time?

ok moving on

I'm betting Qyburn put his prototype Scorpion on a wagon to Highgarden and back because he has a better idea (this is a guy who is basically the neutral evil version of Samwell, he is always having some scary ideas) and that better idea is a variation on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwacha

Who needs to aim for the head when you can fill the sky with bolts? You say drakaris, I say MLRS.

wasn't what's-his-name calling the shots in King's Landing at the time?

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, August 7, 2017 8:28 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The assassination attempt took place in the north

Bronn laughing at Dickon was good. Just three episodes to go in this season so I imagine they will be pretty packed.

I dont understand why theyre doing 2 short seasons. Are they still filming the last ones?

still writing the last ones, more like

watched this a second time, still missed the Davos fewer / less bit, sadly, but when Davos and Jon are walking down and run into Missandei right before Theon shows back up, doesn't it seem like maybe Davos (re?)discovered the stash of good brandy on Dragonstone? He's all gregarious and a little bit of a dick!