I think this is probably the most underrated song on the album. It's not my favorite but every time I play it, I am struck by how much I enjoy it and wonder why it doesn't appear as anyone's 2nd or 3rd favorite:
https://youtu.be/w0HGRkYOEEU
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
The thing about songs like 'It's Over' and 'Switch' is that I can't help but imagine how much they'd rule if Boris had played on 'em.
Andy Anderson is technically a better drummer than Lol but Lol came up with iconic drum parts like the ones on 'The Figurehead', 'The Hanging Garden', 'Siamese Twins' etc. Andy did however play drums on 'The Lovecats', which alone means he's made more of a contribution to the Cure canon drumming-wise than Jason has in his whole stint.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 4 August 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link
This song is a little "latter-period Cure, lol" but it still works, especially the prechorus:
https://youtu.be/cHagAp8CVo0
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 4 August 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
i like the fashion critiques! simon looks like the singer from LIT now― kurt schwitterz, Friday, August 4, 2017 7:54 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, August 4, 2017 7:54 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hahahaha! I'd never quite made the connection, but yeah!
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 4 August 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
I agree with RAG, this song bangs:
https://youtu.be/6IvdTyvWaGo
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 4 August 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link
"Hungry Ghost" is my favourite. I thought the b-sides were quite weak but I think I like this album more than most of you.― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, August 4, 2017 7:50 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, August 4, 2017 7:50 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think 4:13 Dream is a great collection of songs! Actually, I'd go as far as saying that stylistically it was quite refreshing coming after the more ponderous Bloodflowers and the Ross Robinson-ness of The Cure ... but the way that the songs are recorded/produced/mixed/arranged and even (in places) played does them no favours. I'm sure they didn't set out to make a lousy sounding record, but it does often feel to me that they took this great batch of songs and shat on them.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 4 August 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link
i looove "sleep when i'm dead"
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 4 August 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link
'Sleep When I'm Dead' was written around the time of The Head on the Door, iirc?
I actually really like 'This. Here and Now. With You', even though I'm pretty sure that DJP hates it.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 4 August 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
The thing that struck me most was how accessible the album is. Everything from Kiss Me to the selftitled album taken a long time for me to digest but 4:13 Dream was as easy as Boys Don't Cry.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 August 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
When I heard 'Freakshow' for the first time, I thought "shit, haven't heard them do a song like this for a while!"
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 4 August 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
Also, Andy was not able to play the triplets on '100 Years' either, so he must be crap, right?
uhhhttps://youtu.be/ApKZ1mOLbIY?t=2721
https://youtu.be/ApKZ1mOLbIY?t=2721
― Birds in Hell, Friday, 4 August 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link
That is indeed Boris' first ever show with the band.
Not that he's playing the triplets, either. But, carry on.
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Friday, 4 August 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link
^ Pedantically cunty post.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 5 August 2017 09:20 (six years ago) link
I heard that Jason can't even play a triplet.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 August 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link
I checked and that's actually Boris' 10th or so show with the Cure - but mostly pretty impressive stuff. Haven't heard the few with Vince from Psychedelic Furs.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gpeVLvJ6KU
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 5 August 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
v surprised by how much i love "the reasons why"
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 09:15 (six years ago) link
q: why isn't "without you" on this record
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHht5Ugv_7o
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link
lotta wacky bob vocalizations but it totally sweeps me away anyway
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link
i bought all three singles but never really listened to them before, so thanks Brad.
i have been listening to 4:13 Dream non-stop since we have been on a Cure kick on ILM. still not a fan of the production but really, really like this album. if they cut a couple of songs off it, what could have been. i would say their best since Wish.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link
Bee, there were four singles from this album!
'The Only One' b/w 'NY Trip''Freakshow' b/w 'All Kinds of Stuff''The Perfect Boy' b/w 'Without You''Sleep When I'm Dead' b/w 'Down Under'
'Without You' and 'Down Under' are fantastic.
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 01:20 (six years ago) link
All Kinds of Stuff rules, too
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
I'm not really a fan. Good b-side fodder, though.
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link
I mean, I liked it better when they recorded it in 1986 and it was called 'A Japanese Dream.'
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 03:55 (six years ago) link
How have I noticed heard this before?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEdos_du2Zw
― Bee OK, Thursday, 17 November 2022 06:57 (one year ago) link
Not sure how not turned into noticed there.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 17 November 2022 07:01 (one year ago) link